Difference between Madara and Obito? Kinda confused.

[AllHailKurama]

Like the title said, what's the difference between current Madara and Obito when he was a jinchuriki? The reason I ask is this:

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If you notice here in the bottom left panel, Obito states that because he's the Juubi's jinchuriki, he can't travel through dimensions, but, as we saw today:

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Madara seems to have no problem making the dimensional jump. I won't even mention how he straight up jacked Kakashi's eye like it was nothing, and then used Kamui out of nowhere like he had been using it his entire life.

Thoughts?

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Plot hole? But not sure, maybe it will be explained.

 

[Cauzing]

Madara is superior in to Obito in everyway. He has got way more experience with his Sharingan than Obito. Maybe he also was able to use Kamui in his prime against the senju

 

[RikudouMadara]

Madara is superior in to Obito in everyway. He has got way more experience with his Sharingan than Obito. Maybe he also was able to use Kamui in his prime against the senju

I agree with the first two sentences.... I believe this is the reason...

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

I'm guessing Kaguya is just ****ing with Obito (Not like that, you fool)
Madara got no resistance from the juubi, because Kaguya was in the shinju. Obito did get some resistance because Kaguya was in the juubi.

When madara absorbed the shinju, Kaguya didn't stop him, she literaly asked him to do it. Now she's helping him, or using him to avoid dying.

 

[AllHailKurama]

Yeah I was thinking it might have something to do with Kaguya (or whoever the entity was that spoke to Madara, in case it wasn't Kaguya). Who knows lol

 

[RikudouMadara]

I'm guessing Kaguya is just ****ing with Obito (Not like that, you fool)
Madara got no resistance from the juubi, because Kaguya was in the shinju. Obito did get some resistance because Kaguya was in the juubi.

When madara absorbed the shinju, Kaguya didn't stop him, she literaly asked him to do it. Now she's helping him, or using him to avoid dying.

I see you will try anything to make yourself feel better about the situation.... Well it seems that way to me.... ^_^ I'm not trying to come down on the more subtle and understanding Obito fans...but it is signed, sealed, and delivered that Madara is greater than Obito in every way nao... Even Kamui is useless against Madara.

 

[Cobra the Sage]

Lol Kishi seem to just be pulling shyt out his azz smh

 

[MrLukyso]

Madara is superior to Obito in any possible way, Dojutsu, Ninjutsu, Jinchuuriki, Knowledge.. everything.

What Obito cannot do Madara can, simple as that.

 

[Dark Riku]

Obito used Kamui as a sealing Jutsu to become Juubi's Jin,that's why he couldn't use it later on.

 

[AllHailKurama]

Obito used Kamui as a sealing Jutsu to become Juubi's Jin,that's why he couldn't use it later on.

Wait really? He was using handsigns though to form a seal, that's why Naruto recognized them and bolted with Sasuke and Minato right? I thought Kamui didn't need handsigns? Ill try to find the scan real quick

Edit: Here it is:

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[Colonel Armstrong]

another translation

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[Ashura San]

This might be my tenth time posting this.
But...

It was never stated that he couldn't travel to kamui. He couldn't "let things pass through him" which isn't the same as just going to kamui, for instance like how when he traveled to the kamui dimension when he had to save naruto.
Obviously both techniques take him to kamui but Apparently, in different ways.
We can tell this b/c his "intangibility" (quotes b/c it's not really intangibility) is instant while when he travels the other way it takes some time.
Follow me?

 

[the last shinobi]

Obito used Kamui as a sealing Jutsu to become Juubi's Jin,that's why he couldn't use it later on.

da fuq are you talking about

 

[the last shinobi]

This might be my tenth time posting this.
But...

It was never stated that he couldn't travel to kamui. He couldn't "let things pass through him" which isn't the same as just going to kamui, for instance like how when he traveled to the kamui dimension when he had to save naruto.
Obviously both techniques take him to kamui but Apparently, in different ways.
We can tell this b/c his "intangibility" (quotes b/c it's not really intangibility) is instant while when he travels the other way it takes some time.
Follow me?

Once again there is a manga call one jutsu that explains that obito teleporting and phasing is the same thing

manga number 596 please reread

 

[AllHailKurama]

Once again there is a manga call one jutsu that explains that obito teleporting and phasing is the same thing

manga number 596 please reread

I was thinking that too

 

[Scryed]

If I had to give it an explanation the I'd involve senjutsu.

Traveling through dimensions is a S/T ninjutsu that one uses on himself(Kamui)

If it wasn't infused with senjutsu then maybe his Omnyoudon nullified his own Kamui?

 

[bashkim]

If I had to give it an explanation the I'd involve senjutsu.

Traveling through dimensions is a S/T ninjutsu that one uses on himself(Kamui)

If it wasn't infused with senjutsu then maybe his Omnyoudon nullified his own Kamui?

Yeah maybe this it.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Madara has plot on his side, Obito does not. Simple really.