differance between power and power ups

[yondaime4]

I duno i want opinions because i hate using the term power up, as imo power ups are gained easily but true power is earned.

When i say a power that wasnt earned, i think of kabutos edos, juugo karin oro and suigetsu chakra, he just stole the edos from oro and injected himself with other peoples powers. i mean the dragon sage mode is legit he had to acquire that not just pick it up like its nothing. and thats why kabuto got owned by itachi because he doesnt understand what genius really is, even tho imo kabuto could be a genius, which is what i think itachi wants him to realize.


Obito (i know im gona get flamed o well) should have died but his eye saved him or wutever and he met madara, was given mokuton and kakashi killed rin so he got ms. then he hides behind akatsuki, so that he could wait for everyone to die and manipulate sasuke and take the gedo the jins. in the end he didnt actually help akatsuki at all, his one job was get the ninetails and he failed lol.

now refering to naruto and sasuke, they have both strove to get stronger all day everyday lol. naruto took how long to learn rasenshuriken, had to fight off kurama to get his power and even converted kurama into a leaf ninja lol.

sasuke has always been innovating jutsu, he started with chidori turned it into the spear and senbon and even can coat his body in it as defense. then susanoo, he basically had to fight the five kage and danzo to get a feel for it and learned blaze release in the process. he killed itachi took his eyes and now has ems, which will enable him to innovate his susanoo and all other sharingan jutsu. i mean he will have new powers but i wouldnt refer to them as a power up since he is using his intelligence to expand what he already has.

my point is that there is a differance between gaining power and earning power, and some one who merely gains power can never be as strong as someone who earns power.

also why i never put obito or kabuto at the top of my list of shinobi. lol

hard work\intelligence>power ups

 

[YellowFang]

Absolutely, Naruto always gets new powers and Sasuke sometimes, mostly recently is feeding up on power-ups....

 

[GwemBaba]

For power that isn't theirs, look no further than Naruto and Sauke, especially Sasuke.

Deidera, Danzo and others shouldn't be dead. Plot no'd big time.

 

[Brd17]

Sooo when has sasuke ever coated his body in lightning? I don't remember him doing that

 

[sharingan17]

Naruto earn his powers fron kurama, but the ms and ems were basically given tp sasuke.

 

[yondaime4]

Sooo when has sasuke ever coated his body in lightning? I don't remember him doing that

he can do it im not going to search for it lol, but really after reading the op thats all you got?

 

[yondaime4]

Naruto earn his powers fron kurama, but the ms and ems were basically given tp sasuke.

Sasuke had to kill his big bro, even if itachi decided to die, it was not easy for sasuke by any means. he still earned them imo

not to mention he has to live with the fact itachi loved him and he killed him lol

 

[htmwall]

sorry to tell you but no,MS,EM,rinnegan and BM are power-ups.
uchihas get MS by crying over the graves of their loved ones,sasuke,obito,madara,itachi didn't awaken MS by killing someone,they got it by seeing someone close die,and feeling sad about it itachi,rin,izuna,shisui were the trigger of their having their power-ups.
BM sprung out of nowhere in the middle of battle.
rinnegan was awakened when madara felt despair of death,i love the word "awakened",it proves that these powers didn't exist a second ago,and the next second it came out of nowhere.
so yeah power-ups>talent/hardwork.

 

[MiracleJoe]

Naruto earn his powers fron kurama, but the ms and ems were basically given tp sasuke.

so you are saying that kurama wasnt sealed into naruto and that sasuke did nothing to advance his sharingan let alone even activate it?

 

[MiracleJoe]

sorry to tell you but no,MS,EM,rinnegan and BM are power-ups.
uchihas get MS by crying over the graves of their loved ones,sasuke,obito,madara,itachi didn't awaken MS by killing someone,they got it by seeing someone close die,and feeling sad about it itachi,rin,izuna,shisui were the trigger of their having their power-ups.
BM sprung out of nowhere in the middle of battle.
rinnegan was awakened when madara felt despair of death,i love the word "awakened",it proves that these powers didn't exist a second ago,and the next second it came out of nowhere.
so yeah power-ups>talent/hardwork.

if this was the case then sasuke should have awakened MS right when his family died, i don't know any greater despair than that. Obito more than likely did some training within the 20 plus years before he first appeared as tobi. also madara live a long life of war, training, gathering intelligence and hard work, it finally paid off with his rinnengan. on Naruto's behalf, the whole story is about him working his ass off to gain power and be acknowledged so he earned BM. just because they are extremely powerful doesn't mean they are power-ups. you should really think about what the OP posted before you go making assumptions.

 

[BigGuns Reloaded]

Oh man some much hate on sasuke's part

To get ms. takes immense emotion
So sasuke awakening it isn't a random power up or bs plot ... The minute u seen itach's we all knew that was sasuke's next stage .. Infact if at vote he would've went through with killing naruto he would've got it then so please stop being ignorant & blindly hating

Ems was clearly explained by itachi so don't act lik it was random or bs plot ... Sasuke's powers are introduced before he actually gets them for the fact it won't be bs when ACHIEVED

If he uses inazami or inazagi it shouldn't be a surprise or plot no jutsu

When ever we see sasuke it's always after a time laps on top of that his hobby is training TRAINING of all things

Obito clearly activated his ms. before kakashi hence him surviving that boulder & phas through the ground the thing is it wasn't shown but rather hinted at by madara

Chidori negashi is lightning that covers sasuke's body

 

[BigGuns Reloaded]

Bs power ups:

Kakashi new skills with kumiu

Planetary rasengan

Naruto's current transformation

Kyubi chakra hand outs

Continuous tbb

 

[yondaime4]

if this was the case then sasuke should have awakened MS right when his family died, i don't know any greater despair than that. Obito more than likely did some training within the 20 plus years before he first appeared as tobi. also madara live a long life of war, training, gathering intelligence and hard work, it finally paid off with his rinnengan. on Naruto's behalf, the whole story is about him working his ass off to gain power and be acknowledged so he earned BM. just because they are extremely powerful doesn't mean they are power-ups. you should really think about what the OP posted before you go making assumptions.

Hehe couldnt have said ot better XD

 

[yondaime4]

sorry to tell you but no,MS,EM,rinnegan and BM are power-ups.
uchihas get MS by crying over the graves of their loved ones,sasuke,obito,madara,itachi didn't awaken MS by killing someone,they got it by seeing someone close die,and feeling sad about it itachi,rin,izuna,shisui were the trigger of their having their power-ups.
BM sprung out of nowhere in the middle of battle.
rinnegan was awakened when madara felt despair of death,i love the word "awakened",it proves that these powers didn't exist a second ago,and the next second it came out of nowhere.
so yeah power-ups>talent/hardwork.

I agree they CAN be power ups, but sasuke lost his brother for ms and ems and if he could choose which do you think he would rather have?

bm didnt slring out of nowhere it came from naruto and kurama teaming up, which took naruto all his life to accomplsh.

rinnegan was awakened by madara on after years on the verge of death i mean it was easy for nagato and obito, but then again nagato made the rinnegan his own with the six paths which obito copied with the jins akatsuki gathered.

If you really think power ups>talent\hardwork then theres no point in arguing lol your clearly lost

 

[VolatileSoul]

Oh man some much hate on sasuke's part

To get ms. takes immense emotion
So sasuke awakening it isn't a random power up or bs plot ... The minute u seen itach's we all knew that was sasuke's next stage .. Infact if at vote he would've went through with killing naruto he would've got it then so please stop being ignorant & blindly hating

Ems was clearly explained by itachi so don't act lik it was random or bs plot ... Sasuke's powers are introduced before he actually gets them for the fact it won't be bs when ACHIEVED

If he uses inazami or inazagi it shouldn't be a surprise or plot no jutsu

When ever we see sasuke it's always after a time laps on top of that his hobby is training TRAINING of all things

Obito clearly activated his ms. before kakashi hence him surviving that boulder & phas through the ground the thing is it wasn't shown but rather hinted at by madara

Chidori negashi is lightning that covers sasuke's body

I have never seen anything more true than this when it comes to power.