Diedara gives hashi problems?

[JIRAIYA perv]

And this a problem with this site bro! Forget about plot and use your brain and logic!

Look at it this way:

I made another thread on Gaara vs minato....I think everyone here will say minato is stronger than gaara overall. But what you need to realizeis, because of his abilites, Gaara poses a MAJOR threat to minato because of his abilites. Just about everyone has a counter character who may not be stronger than them but thier specific fighting style could post a threat for that person.

i use it pretty fine thank you :yeah: but, i'll bite.

first of all you're threads don't consider the conditions of a real fight, you just jump to a scenario where Deidara made it into the air while Hashirama was standing there the whole time, a good/will explained scenario wouldn't get this far.

but, lets say somehow Deidara magically makes it into the air avoiding everything Hashi can throw at him, the fact that Hashirama has sage mode makes sneak chakra based attacks useless against him + he doesn't need speed to avoid the that slow cloud like attack of Microscopic bombs which can be avoided the moment he sense's it from a far (the moment Deidara reaches the safe/required hight, hashi will be ready/on alert for what's coming looking at the situation/the enemies distance/fighting style).

you keep talking about the jutsu as if it is seriously fast, it's not and the only way to counter it is by sensing/realizing the danger which is one of Hashi's abilities.

as for C4 Deirada will die before he even uses it, it's a desperate move/attack against characters who are close to his level/can push him to the limits in a long close fight but, this is not the case here.

and all the explosives he can throw at Hashi are nothing but a child's play compared to the destructive attacks he handled before (TBB's).

BTW Minato vs Gara is not even a matchup, Gara will get slaughtered.

 

[ReverseZero12]

Obviously dude. I know Hashi IS STRONGER. NO ONE IS DOUBTING THAT. Diedaras abilites just pose a threat for hashi reguardless.

Hashirama has fought with those that far far exceed deidara's own abilities like EMS Madara+Kyuubi which is a prime example. He won't have trouble adapting to and dealing with Deidara in anyway.

 

[VongolaX]

He would give him trouble, considering that C3 can level a whole village and C4 has a microscopic atomic bombing.

However wooden dragon and golem would eat him and his chakra.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

@bold: Ok? That is completely irrelevant to this scenario.

Ok? Making a clone isn't going to save him from

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, as he'll still get crushed by the attack.

Even if he does get in the air, Mokujin is a little bit taller

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, and PS is Mountain sized, so Hashirama simply calls Mokujin to slap Deidara back into the ground, which would also kill him in the process as he isn't taking a direct hit from a construct that can clash with Perfect Susanoo.


Dafuq? A Bijuu Dama is an explosion, the same kind of explosion that any of Deidara's bombs are, so I have no idea what you are getting at here. Its simple as this, Bijuu Dama is far stronger than any of Deidara's bombs going by feats, unless I get one busting multiple Mountains.



1. Kill him before he has a chance.

2. Sense the microbombs approaching and make a Mokuton Dome to block them, and please don't come here with this "He won't know its a bomb nonsense". Cause you can see the big Deidara blowing up, but not releasing any explosion.



lmao, log out.

Your walking here. You make it seen as if the hand will have no problem catching diedara. That's a pretty stupid assumption. You implying that the statue is either fast as or faster than diedara on his bird. Where is this statues speed feats?

And you sound real dumb saying he can sense them. He doesn't know what it is or even where it's coming from. SM sending cannot decipher which direction it's coming from IF IT'S ALL AROUND HIM. Sasuke was able to see each bomb individually...that's how he knew which direction to run in. Even if he can sense it, by the time wood dome is up, he would have already inhaled it.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

Hashirama has fought with those that far far exceed deidara's own abilities like EMS Madara+Kyuubi which is a prime example. He won't have trouble adapting to and dealing with Deidara in anyway.

Like how he isn't having any trouble dealing with it adapting to current madara right? Get real.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

i use it pretty fine thank you :yeah: but, i'll bite.

first of all you're threads don't consider the conditions of a real fight, you just jump to a scenario where Deidara made it into the air while Hashirama was standing there the whole time, a good/will explained scenario wouldn't get this far.

but, lets say somehow Deidara magically makes it into the air avoiding everything Hashi can throw at him, the fact that Hashirama has sage mode makes sneak chakra based attacks useless against him + he doesn't need speed to avoid the that slow cloud like attack of Microscopic bombs which can be avoided the moment he sense's it from a far.

you keep talking about the jutsu as if it is seriously fast, it's not and the only way to counter it is by sensing/realizing the danger which is one of Hashi's abilities.

as for C4 Deirada will die before he even uses it, it's a desperate move/attack against characters who are close to his level/can push him to the limits in a long close fight but, this is not the case here.

and all the explosives he can throw at Hashi are nothing but a child's play compared to the destructive attacks he handled before (TBB's).

BTW Minato vs Gara is not even a matchup, Gara will get slaughtered.

This right here shows me your not using logic bro! Do you know what an explosion is and how fast it travel s? There will be no time to sense it....by the time he does he would already have breathed in millions the same way sasuke did. The explosion and the radius it covers is instant.

 

[Flawž]

Deidara doesn't last a minute unless he runs away.

 

[mrcrazyboyravi]

hashirama's wooden golem and 1000+ buddha's shooting arrows with this bow.

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[-Sky-]

Deidara would be an ant to Shisusenju . Took multiple full Kyuubi TBB's to break that .

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

This right here shows me your not using logic bro! Do you know what an explosion is and how fast it travel s? There will be no time to sense it....by the time he does he would already have breathed in millions the same way sasuke did. The explosion and the radius it covers is instant.

what kind of logic are you using :|

- the moment Sasuke sensed it, he avoided the radius of the attack long before it reached his location (the real Sasuke that is), Sasuke never "inhaled" anything.

- you don't get it, watch the same fight in the anime and you will know how slow that cloud like attack is, it took some time after exploding to destroy the animals in it's path.

- the key to this attack is the surprise element/no knowledge/sensing abilities, and then there's the alerting OBVIOUS distance Deidara takes to preform it which is like a sign that says "watch out".

- as for the instant thing, the only thing that's instant in this series is FTG and this cloud like attack is slow as hell (it relies mainly on surprise/confusion of the opponent).

 

[Brother Numpsay]

People will always look at tier to determine the fight. Harashima being a higher tier then Deidara, automatically means every feat displayed by Deidara looks useless in scenario, and somehow "slower".

Have fun arguing with these people.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

what kind of logic are you using :|

- the moment Sasuke sensed it, he avoided the radius of the attack long before it reached his location (the real Sasuke that is), Sasuke never "inhaled" anything.

- you don't get it, watch the same fight in the anime and you will know how slow that cloud like attack is, it took some time after exploding to destroy the animals in it's path.

- the key to this attack is the surprise element/no knowledge/sensing abilities, and then there's the alerting OBVIOUS distance Deidara takes to preform it which is like a sign that says "watch out".

- as for the instant thing, the only thing that's instant in this series is FTG and this attack is slow as hell (it relies mainly on surprise/confusion of the opponent).

Dude. Go back and read the manga bro. Sasuke inhaled some but diffused them by running chidori thru himself.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Dude. Go back and read the manga bro. Sasuke inhaled some but diffused them by running chidori thru himself.

that was in the second attack after Deidara trapped him INSIDE THE SECOND/SMALLER CLAY STATUE :|

are we watching/reading the same series ??

 

[ReverseZero12]

Like how he isn't having any trouble dealing with it adapting to current madara right? Get real.

ROFL are you serious? Madara is on a completely different level than deidara. Please stop

 

[Mrmojo8484]

ROFL are you serious? Madara is on a completely different level than deidara. Please stop

Thanks captain.obvious.

 

[Strata Uchiha]

Knowing Deidara, he would probably fly smack dab into a Rashimon summon.......

 

[Icelerate]

Hashirama one shots.

1. Cause Hashirama will sit there and watch as Deidara takes flight on his bird amirite? lmfao....no. How about this? Deidara tries to take flight and a Mokuton Branch sprouts from under him, wraps around his C2 bird and Hashirama finishes this clown off with Jukai Kotan.

2. Too bad none of his bombs begin to compare to Kurama's Bijuu Dama, which was tanked by Hashirama with little effort.

3. Tanked or blocked with little difficulty.

Again, Hashirama one shots.

Agreed, Yamato also one shots because his mokuton being weaker doesn't mean it isn't enough to restrain and kill Deidara much like Hashi's.

 

[KidGamer65]

Your walking here. You make it seen as if the hand will have no problem catching diedara. That's a pretty stupid assumption. You implying that the statue is either fast as or faster than diedara on his bird. Where is this statues speed feats?

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Kurama's

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which

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Travels far faster than Deidara does on his bird, not mention the size difference is also ridiculous, he gets swatted like a fly.

And you sound real dumb saying he can sense them. He doesn't know what it is or even where it's coming from. SM sending cannot decipher which direction it's coming from IF IT'S ALL AROUND HIM. Sasuke was able to see each bomb individually...that's how he knew which direction to run in. Even if he can sense it, by the time wood dome is up, he would have already inhaled it.

lmao, dumbass.

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, if he can sense it he'll know where it is, that's what chakra sensing is, also, what the hell are you talking about? Sasuke didn't see each bomb individually nor was it all around him, read the manga before replying with BS.

All that's needed is to get away from that cloud and then he puts up his dome. End of story.

So yeah, he senses its location blocks it and shits on Deidara with no difficulty.

 

[FlemSmack]

C4 has to be the most underrated jutsu in the entire manga.

If you can't sense the bombs you die.

If you can sense them you have to hold your breath while fighting, run away, or be one of only a handfull of shinobi that can nulify the bombs.

C4 defeats 99.99% of the NV.

 

[Etari]

Are you kidding me? That's like comparing Windows 98 with Windows 7 and asking which one is better.
Hashirama would slap the sh*t out of Deidara (which would result to his death), and everybody knows that fact.

Deidara's little "strong" bombs are just like a snow falling from the sky to Hashirama (or at least to his 10000 handed buddha summoning sh*t).

Deidara's up in the air? How big was Hashirama's

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again, and where does it come from? (above, b*tch)