Did your parents have the sense to teach you there’s more than one path to success?

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Are most parents dumbasses? Why don’t they understand that working a mediocre, deadend job and going to college isn’t the only way to make money?

I’m so happy for kids whose parents get them into entrepreneurship at a young age. Or YouTube or Twitch. Or have them learn a talent that they’ll enjoy and could make a living from at the same time.
 

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The "modern world" is relatively new to the human experience. For a very long time, it was simply that your family built up their domicile around their trade(s), and traded with the locals. Your family baked the bread and so you built the home around the ovens and eventually configured part of it into a sort of store front. In this thousands-year-long pattern in human behavior, the children often grew up to inherit the trade their parents practiced, and either continued it where they were, or began doing the same thing when they moved to a new region.

There WAS only "entrepreneurship" and most people simply followed the pattern of their parents. Industrialization and urbanization, however, allowed very different models to begin springing up. People began to work in factories, taking simply raw capacity to perform labor or a skilled trade and employing it in exchange for pay. Children no longer grow up with their parents performing the trades around them, but separate from them. In a mirror of the factory environment, children are then placed into schools to be taught information that would normally be picked up from the parents, and then children expect to somehow repeat the success of their parents... without really having seen how their parents worked or achieved that success.

I think human society has yet to truly adapt to the power of centralized manufacturing/production. We have simply taken on new trends within the span of one or two generations without really having time to analyze their impact on our family and social dynamics. This isn't to say that factories and "jobs" are bad - far from it, but that we may need to consider key aspects of how we are not currently incorporating our children, or our lifestyle patterns, into our jobs/careers. Children shouldn't be locked into the same career choices as their parents, but just as nobles sought out the skills of a family line of craftsmen back in the day, there is a genealogy to skill and technology all of its own.

The more things change... the more they stay the same, as the old saying goes. The field hands are still field hands, culturally, and while there is nothing wrong with people living such a simple life, it would be nice to properly incorporate the values of egalitarianism into this new era of society to create true growth and options for people to soften the effect of castes/strata. There will always be strata or castes. The question is how many obstacles there are to those who seek to do more with their lives and existence. There are hardly ever any obstacles to moving down within the strata... moving up... there tends to be a bit more.
 

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The "modern world" is relatively new to the human experience. For a very long time, it was simply that your family built up their domicile around their trade(s), and traded with the locals. Your family baked the bread and so you built the home around the ovens and eventually configured part of it into a sort of store front. In this thousands-year-long pattern in human behavior, the children often grew up to inherit the trade their parents practiced, and either continued it where they were, or began doing the same thing when they moved to a new region.

There WAS only "entrepreneurship" and most people simply followed the pattern of their parents. Industrialization and urbanization, however, allowed very different models to begin springing up. People began to work in factories, taking simply raw capacity to perform labor or a skilled trade and employing it in exchange for pay. Children no longer grow up with their parents performing the trades around them, but separate from them. In a mirror of the factory environment, children are then placed into schools to be taught information that would normally be picked up from the parents, and then children expect to somehow repeat the success of their parents... without really having seen how their parents worked or achieved that success.

I think human society has yet to truly adapt to the power of centralized manufacturing/production. We have simply taken on new trends within the span of one or two generations without really having time to analyze their impact on our family and social dynamics. This isn't to say that factories and "jobs" are bad - far from it, but that we may need to consider key aspects of how we are not currently incorporating our children, or our lifestyle patterns, into our jobs/careers. Children shouldn't be locked into the same career choices as their parents, but just as nobles sought out the skills of a family line of craftsmen back in the day, there is a genealogy to skill and technology all of its own.

The more things change... the more they stay the same, as the old saying goes. The field hands are still field hands, culturally, and while there is nothing wrong with people living such a simple life, it would be nice to properly incorporate the values of egalitarianism into this new era of society to create true growth and options for people to soften the effect of castes/strata. There will always be strata or castes. The question is how many obstacles there are to those who seek to do more with their lives and existence. There are hardly ever any obstacles to moving down within the strata... moving up... there tends to be a bit more.
The likes on this post give me the notion that it's worth-reading but with how long it is, it'll probably be a lot of sacrifice before even reaching half the point you've conveyed.
 

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The likes on this post give me the notion that it's worth-reading but with how long it is, it'll probably be a lot of sacrifice before even reaching half the point you've conveyed.
Work used to be an in-house thing where it was visible for children to pick up on the parent's skills, but industrialization happened and that brought mandatory school. With mandatory school, what skills children learn is now separated from the parent's own skills to some extent. And with industrialization itself, parents' workplaces were no longer in their homes and less visible to children.

He's saying he's interested in children gaining the ability to learn closely from their parents once again after this loss and the idea of families dedicated to one trade. It's pretty ironic given that the thread's title refers to there being more than one path, but he's not saying every family or most should be like that.
 
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The likes on this post give me the notion that it's worth-reading but with how long it is, it'll probably be a lot of sacrifice before even reaching half the point you've conveyed.
We had the phrase: "No deposit, no return." While I can be a bit wordy, I construct my posts to support their own ideas and conclusions. Too many people seem to merely want to give vent to a feeling in their mind than actually sit down and explain how/why they think what they do.

One of the people I argued with the most, growing up, was my Austrian friend. Started out kind of hating each other. Yet, the more we argued with each other, the more we found ourselves back at a common set of points we started our thinking from, and understood how the other person came to stand on the other side of the river. We knew that, even when we disagreed with each other, we did not arrive at that difference because of stupidity or ignorance. There was a consistent logic and value system which led there.

When we spoke to each other, we weren't simply interested in saying: "this is how I feel" or "I know the answer!" We genuinely were interested in seeing how this other person worked, why they worked that way, and where it was our understanding of things began to diverge from each other. Then there was the whole telepathic connection thing we shared... but that's another story.

It's not always easy. Everyone wants things and we talk to each other in an attempt to satisfy those wants. I talk to the cashier to get the things I bought. I talk to the person in my way so they can kindly get the hell out of it. I talk to the cute girl because I want that cute girl to like me and want more of me. To simply talk to someone and get to know the person they are behind the animal we all drive around in our day to day lives... that is hard.

Not that any of that was a summary. Or really even on topic.
 

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The fact is that there are numerous people out there with popular YouTube channels that allow them to pursue an income. I, myself, have considered creating a channel themed around a couple different topics (and not likely what many, here, would suspect). I would not expect it to really replace an income, and think it would become a detriment for such projects if they were able to do so. People quickly realize that videos draw large amounts of money when they are first published, then taper off in popularity afterward. I notice this trend in my fan-fiction, so it's only natural that those who get more than ego strokes from video views take note of it, as well. It pushes people to release videos more frequently and to descend into 'let's play' or other meaningless types of nonsense video posts that cheapen the channel.

Which is why the channel, itself, would be built in conjunction with a business and products. What kind of products? Somewhat classified, however, imagine being able to 3d print almost any element and even form exotic ionic/covalent bonds with other elements before depositing those atoms with a specified energy onto/into a solid matrix with sub-micrometer accuracy. In theory, organic molecules could be deposited this way, too, but the process would require hard vacuum, and that would ultimately create a number of limitations on what materials could ultimately be processed.

Of course, something that can have wildly varying material composition would need a bit more than just your average solid model and would, itself, need quite the software suite backing it up. The easy part is the actual mechanism, which is effectively on par with what kinds of stuff is currently being hammered out within restricted access programs, I would imagine. The harder part is the software interface.

However, it means that electronics could be directly embedded within a metal impregnated ceramic matrix consisting of a very accurate micro or nano structure of composite materials. In other words - it means meta-materials not just as a piece or a part, but as an overall design philosophy and looking at every piece of an assembly contributing to more than its structural function. Struts become batteries, capacitors, conductors, or even signal processors with antenna arrays. Some piezoelectric effects could potentially be exploited for micro-actuators, temperature control systems, or even structural reinforcement that has barely been theorized as possible, yet.

I should have begun all of this earlier, and have experienced a number of setbacks - many out of my control, some choices I made on moral grounds (a great many people will be absolutely astonished at what I have sacrificed and why), and quite a bit because of my own care-free/lazy disposition. However, it has also given me quite the opportunity to learn a bit more of other things within the world before I start off down my own road.

By the time I have my equipment in a state in which it is ready to sell, I almost will not need money - interestingly enough. Of course, I am also not stupid. The project's details will be TS:SCI and handled appropriately on sufficiently isolated systems. There will be an insurance policy in the event I am killed, but it's better if everyone thinks I am simply an egotistical narcissist who is all talk and no hat, let alone cattle in the first place.

Anyway, I have deviated from the topic, considerably. Why am I even talking? Balking. Squall-king. King sing bing ring. Alas, I have still never figured out whether it is a foxy box, or a boxy fox.
 
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