Did you think that the Hokages are being too hard on themselves?

Are they?

  • Yes they are ,they were completely justified in their acts.

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mikeeozua

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Do you think that the Hokages are being too hard on themselves?

In chapter 626-627 the Hokages admitted that they made many mistakes which has lead to the situation now. So I'm asking do you think that the Hokages were too hard on themselves?

First lets take a look at their alleged mistakes and failures:

-Hashirama
-Blames himself for creating the darkness that Itachi and many other Konoha shinobi had to endure.
-Blames himself for creating this situation with Madara.
-Likely also blames himself for allowing Madara to survive.

-Tobirama
-Well apparently this mother****** doesn't see any wrong in his actions and talked about Hashirama's downfalls so i will allow you to interpret his mistakes.

-Hiruzen
-Claims that he was the most indulgent of all.
-Blames himself for not being able to follow Tobirama's actions, thus leaving it to Danzo.
-Because he left it to Danzo, he blamed himself for the Uchiha Massacre being allowed.
-Claims that in all of his spell as Hokage, everything he did was a failure.

And lastly, Minato
-Blames himself for dying during the Kyuubi attack.
-Feels guilty for sealing the nine tails into Naruto.
-Feels like he did not fulfill Hiruzen's expectations as the fourth Hokage.
-Feels guilty for not being there to aid Kakashi, Obito and Rin which lead to Obito being crushed by the boulder and Rin throwing herself in front of Kakashi's chidori.

So now that we have looked at their pasts and mistakes, do you think that the Hokages are being too hard on themselves for their mistakes or do you think that they should definitely take responsibility and admit to their downfalls?
 
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Minator93

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They're the Hokages after all U_U
 

Hipster Madara

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They all messed up and should feel about this bad. I feel as though Hiruzen shoukd have been harder on himself. Rest were alright except Tobirama has a long list he could have said for his mistakes.
 

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They all messed up. Minato the least, but thats not to say any of them didnt do the right thing :)
 

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Lord Tobirama doesnt give a f@ck
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They should take some blame, not all of it
 

Aotsuki Katsumi

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It would be natural to look back upon ones life and focus on the things they deem as a mistake. The unnatural part would be to see the after effects after their deaths.....

They did a lot of things, a lot of good, a lot of mistakes as to be expected, but yeah in some aspects they are being too hard on themselves. I liked how you described Tobirama though hehe....
 

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I love how all the hokages blame themselves for something except for Tobirama... allow me to say what everyone else is thinking.

[video=youtube;-O8kRTVkjEI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O8kRTVkjEI[/video]
 

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If Hashirama let Tobirama kill Madara...

This war wouldn't be happening.

Obito would've died the last war, too.
 

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If Hashirama let Tobirama kill Madara...

This war wouldn't be happening.

Obito would've died the last war, too.

Akatsuki wouldn't have formed.

Nagato would've never got the rinnegan..
 

Raekwon26

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They each deserve their fair share of blame.

But what worries and disturbs me the most, is that they all (except maybe Tobirama) buy into Naruto's ignorant ideals.
So shocking.
 

Booker

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Lol Tobirama truly is a boss, he did nothing wrong.
 
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Tobirama doesn't give a f***, because he knows he was right. And he was. First of all:

1: He didn't order Itachi to massacre the clan, even though they've done worse - Hiruzen did.

2: He gave up his life for his ''hated'' Uchiha boy - Kagami Uchiha.

3: He confessed that he never hated them - he considered them as a threat after Madara's actions. And he was right.

4: He didn't expell them out of the village - he gave them a job where they're good at. So that they wouldn't be a threat to the village like Madara or sacrifice them for it - Shisui Uchiha/Itachi Uchiha.

Don't insult Tobirama as a evil person. When he's clearly not.
 

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I would be pissed AF if they were my real leaders. I doubt anyone disagrees based on their reactions to NSA amd censorship,
 

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overall yes!.... but Tobirama isn't being hard on himself at all atm and has a *i dont give a **** attitude anyway*!!! He isn't emotionally attached to the current battle like minato is!....allow him to go all out.
 

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They each deserve their fair share of blame.

But what worries and disturbs me the most, is that they all (except maybe Tobirama) buy into Naruto's ignorant ideals.
So shocking.

I'm interested in why you consider them ignorant. Sure it does sound ignorant when spoken, but it is the right way.
 

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If anyone is cocky it was the 4th. But he has never faced Madara or even zetsu clones.
 
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