Did this Chapter Really Confirm Tobi being Obito...?

[MapleStoryHero]

Re: Tobi NOT confirmed to be Obito

Guys in Manga CHapter 599, although a lot of Obito's story is revealed, it is still not confirmed if Tobi is Obito. Have a look at this page

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It's finally surfaced, the name 'Obito.' You see the appearance is certainly of Obito, but... well, you never know. Let's just hold our horses till the next manga chapter, Yes?

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[Masta Frank]

I wouldn't be surprised if orochimaru had a hand in this... warping his mind to his current state. His arm oozed when it was blown up so maybe orochimaru gave him some of harashima DNA to grow back the crushed half of his body. Orochimaru more than likely intended to take his body, but for some unknown reason, failed to. However, we won't know until Kishi explains what really happened. Just a thought. :shrug:

 

[MapleStoryHero]

Exactly this^

Exactly!!! Thank you for someone being rational.

 

[Mugen Tsukyomi]

I'm going to laugh if it's izuna casting a genjutsu lol!

 

[I Just Died]

Honestly I'd say yes. I mean Kishi can't just make Tobi/Obito a nameless avenger that came out god knows where. It wasn't an easy way out in anyway. I mean if you were Kishimoto-sensei what could you have possibly put? Nothing~
Even he didn't make Tobi Obito people would pissed off and ask "who the **** is that and where the **** did he come from"
Then there would be endless bickering about a so called "new character" and how he could kick everybody's ass so easily and so on.

 

[Nerow]

the chapters name is obito uchiha. youre all f**king retarded if you still refuse to believe its him.

go

die

Woah u mad bro have an :ice:

We've had chapters called Madara's Strategy, and Madara's True worth Chapter Names for Tobi mean nothing

 

[nightfury028]

the first person that i thought of tobi is. kagami.then izuna. but its OBITO. thats really disappointing

 

[CrimsonReaper]

i dont know what is the point of still refusing that he is obito wtf who dont believe he is obito then he lies to himself wtf!!!

 

[3MESSIAH]

Re: Awww Hell No!

For all we know, Izuna's consciousnesses is what is inhabiting Obito's body.

i believe in something like that yes,though not sure if it`s izuna

 

[Digiphix]

Re: looooooool it can't be

LOOOOOOL OBITO WENT CRAZY ... no one is kicking his ass now i can't wait to find out how this is explained

1.Knowledge of madara
2.Why he was upset about izuna dying
3.How he survived
4.How he met Nagato
5.How he even fought/found Minato and knew about the Kyubbi seal

All obito is tobi supporters deserve a apology for the abuse they have had to endure over the years

 

[alex104485]

How about if all the haters make their own manga to read and leave Naruto to the ones who really like it¿¿¿

 

[KagamiSenju]

Still Preety Blown Away

 

[Koibito]

Re: Awww Hell No!

Izuna was never in the storyline.....
There was even proof that he was dead. An actual picture of his corpse

AND OBITO WAS CRUSHED BY A FU*KING BOULDER lmao I still dont think that his identity is as cut and dry as tobi=obito, there has to be something more to it

 

[Kurama Sage]

Re: Awww Hell No!

For all we know, Izuna's consciousnesses is what is inhabiting Obito's body.

Good point. Especially seeing there's a question mark next to OBITO at the very end. Also, the right side of his face resembles the markings from white Zetsu. Always a possibility Kishi will throw us into further suspense. Side note - Obitobi looked pissed, about to whoop Kakashi for being so damn quick with his Kamui.

 

[Chatte]

Re: Awww Hell No!

Good point. Especially seeing there's a question mark next to OBITO at the very end. Also, the right side of his face resembles the markings from white Zetsu. Always a possibility Kishi will throw us into further suspense. Side note - Obitobi looked pissed, about to whoop Kakashi for being so damn quick with his Kamui.

Finally someone that takes into consideration the question mark!

Ok, so here are MY BELIEFS in regard to the whole Tobi id theories (I will quote myself from other threads).

Why he is Tobi, but is not Tobi and could be Izuna.

What my questions/remarks are:

1. Why the indirect hate towards the whole Senju clan that Tobi has shown unless being a very old character?

2. Why Kishi would write the few sentences as this: "Obito?" If it would've been a 100% sure it would've been a full stop or a exclamation mark?

Question mark is used in connection with an 100% uncomplete information, it means there is a missing data there.

If it would've been a full stop it would've represented an undenied piece of evidence. Still Kishi used a question mark meaning the evidence is not 100% accurate/missing data.

3. As well as the phrase construction "It has been confirmed: his name is Obito!"

There Kishi confirms things, it gives us the information that the name is Obito, not the whole person. If it would've been a 100% certain information that Tobi is Obito as a whole, it wouldn't have been necessary for Kishi to add an explanatory note, yet he did it to bring an explanatory note about the name being Obito.

So until isn't 100% sure that Tobi is Obito, until Tobi stated himself, yes, I am Tobi, even though it's a 0.01% chances of being someone else, I am doubting this as it still leaves open possibilities.

It would have been logical for Kishi to mislead to add all those details that took to Obito in order to mess with our minds.

My guess is that it is his body, but there is someone else in there, meaning the counsciousness/soul of another person.

Or it is his consciousness but another body very similar to Tobi's.

True that you were very close.
You were actually very accurate on the indicative details that would make us believing that actually, yes, Tobi is Obito or the timeline of the events having some connection with the timeline of the events of Obito's ones.

He could even play with our mind making Tobi to state that he was Obito which again would be an 100% that he would be Obito. But we know that Kishi made this character to be a bit of a lier. What if in a singular panel, later on, when he would be by himself or with Zetsu/Madara, he will state something like "I told them I am Obito in order to play with their minds?" or something very similar to that. Wouldn't that be a second mind-f*ck (excuse my language) given to us by Kishi?

So until Kishimoto comes with an undeniable proof that he is indeed Obito, that still leaves open possibilities, as I've stated before.

What if is indeed his mind and body, but actually somewhere in the back there is God knows what whose using Tobi's counsciousness with a jutsu or something like that? What if it is his body that gave a full access to his memories but someone else is there. Like in Queen of the Damned movie (a vampire one) where when you bit someone and had his blood you had full access to his memories. Body includes the brain, the brain stores memories.

The perfect match to play with someone's mind.

Also, something to note, that rumor who was viral these days on the internet would pretty much fit the whole scenario of Tobi = Obito but is not actually Obito, is Izuna.

Because if you remember, it was said that it was indeed, Izuna BUT he will bring a lot of suffer thus implying the fact that looking like Obito will mind-blow Kakashi and everyone else who once knew Obito.

Also that was supposed to be an unleaked information by someone close to Kishimoto that instantly would blow-away the whole impact on the fanbase. But, Kishi as being smart (hope he is because of not... I don't know what to say U_U) made us once again fall into astonishment, as we move our beliefs regarding the rumor.

Than, he comes again later on (still have to see when) and show us Tobi as being Izuna and once again we will be mind-blown. So he got the impact he wanted in the first place EVEN THOUGH the information was leaked.

Nonetheless, we have to wait.

Yes, he had been exposed, but why do I have the feeling that he wanted to be exposed? He is portrayed as a character who wants to play with people's mind and use undeniable true facts twisted to his own advantage.

And here we have to take into consideration the whole Sasuke story.
Indeed, he told Sasuke what happened to Itachi but he did it that way, that would suit his preferences.

Same things could happen with Kakashi as well. Using undeniable facts to his own benefit although they differ in perspective.

If it's not Obito and is Izuna, the whole information he got after the timeline of his events would be easily explained thanks to Zetsu. But to explain Obito's timeline events with what happens now, is a lot harder.

The expose thing I was reffering about him wanted to be exposed when he adressed to Kakashi/Gai.
That would be from where his mind-twisting plan starts.

 

[LeznedEroom]

Re: Awww Hell No!

I agree with you bro, bastards are always complaining

 

[legendaryguts]

Re: Awww Hell No!

For all we know, Izuna's consciousnesses is what is inhabiting Obito's body.

This dude could be right. Like Orochimaru's jutsu! Either way should be epic. I wonder if Kikashi will die and Obito will get his other eye back?!

 

[leggomynecro]

Re: Awww Hell No!

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PS Kishi is the biggest troll.

No, non-paying readers are the biggest trolls.

 

[Strata Uchiha]

But Izuna Uchiha's measurements are

Height: 174.8 cm
Weight: 55.9 kg
Blood Type: O

While Tobi/Obito measurements are
Height: 175 cm
Weight: 55.9 kg

So crazy...I thought for sure Tobi was Izuna...>_>

 

[GracefulSerenity]

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