[Discussion] Did Sabo surpass Ace?

[Namikun]

I know that we haven't seen that much of him yet, but do you guys think he surpassed Ace?

 

[Hexuze]

Yes Sabo is stronger. Sabo still has to master the DF though.

 

[Tobi98]

Yes he did

 

[Cwill94]

I think he still needs to master his fruit, ace was always superior to sabo even without the fruit. Not to mention ace had the conquerer's haki. But he's well on his way.

 

[shon93]

Sabo was stronger than Ace without the DF to me so its obvious he has surpassed Ace. The thing what people needs to understand is Sabo doesn't need the Mera Mera......its only a bomus to what he already brings to the table...making him more complete

 

[Souji]

No, not yet.

Ace could have been the Pirate King if he wasn't killed so soon. Sabo is stronger than Luffy and a little weaker than Ace. He hasn't mastered the Mera Mera, either.

 

[Trolling King]

I think he still needs to master his fruit, ace was always superior to sabo even without the fruit. Not to mention ace had the conquerer's haki. But he's well on his way.

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[Hexuze]

No, not yet.

Ace could have been the Pirate King if he wasn't killed so soon. Sabo is stronger than Luffy and a little weaker than Ace. He hasn't mastered the Mera Mera, either.

He lost to pre-gura gura no mi BB. Ace wasn't that powerful but he was skillful with his DF.

 

[TheRedAndGreenBeast]

Ace:
Uncontrollable CH
Mera Mera no mi

Sabo:
Mera Mera no mi
OP AH

Sabo > Ace IMO

 

[VongolaX]

Sabo was stronger than Ace before he got his fruit.

 

[Olorin]

Imo he is as strong as Ace would have been after the two years if he survived

 

[shon93]

Imo he is as strong as Ace would have been after the two years if he survived

Sabo's haki looks like it took way longer than 2 years to accomplish and take into account the Dragon tech and the pipe

 

[Olorin]

Sabo's haki looks like it took way longer than 2 years to accomplish and take into account the Dragon tech and the pipe

Every good haki user post Ts showed better haki than anyone at MF because Oda didn't show what exactly haki is by that point

 

[shon93]

Every good haki user post Ts showed better haki than anyone at MF because Oda didn't show what exactly haki is by that point

Ace haki wasn't @ that level though...and if people like the admirals start pulling out crazy haki abilities it would feel inconsistant. They relie on there DF's

 

[Dr Strangelove]

No way.
He's had the devil fruit for ten seconds.
Ace had it for years.
Even then I still think Ace was stronger.

 

[Fireplay]

Its always been Ace>Sabo>Luffy

Current Sabo is around the same level as Post-TS Ace if he was alive therefore Sabo>Ace. He was already stronger than Ace before he ate the Mera Mera.

 

[shon93]

No way.
He's had the devil fruit for ten seconds.
Ace had it for years.
Even then I still think Ace was stronger.

Outside its not about the DF bro.....take the DF away from Sabo because its only a small small part of him and really think about it

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Outside its not about the DF bro.....take the DF away from Sabo because its only a small small part of him and really think about it

You should already know my view on Sabo at this point in time XD
Still think Ace was stronger.

 

[shon93]

You should already know my view on Sabo at this point in time XD
Still think Ace was stronger.

We'll see!!

 

[Dr Strangelove]

We'll see!!

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Yes we will.