Did Naruto lose RSM in the Last?

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Prior to watching the last, I also assumed he had lost RM but i think i was mistaken.
while watching the last i noticed something. Tho the chakra mode he used looked completely different. He was able to reach into Hinata's heart and remove the spell toneri placed on her.
This seems like something he would only be able to do in RM. Kinda like him rebuilding kakashi's eye and stopping gai from dying.

So i believe this is proof that he was in RM. I believe that now he has full kyuubi, his RM look changed.

 

[KingHashirama]

Naruto cannot fly without Sage chakra.

Yes, Naruto in Base RM is his power. RSM is through the combination of the gift he received and Kurama's chakra. As evident with the Kanji flame which represents KCM, and BM. Anyway -- You cannot show one piece of evidence of Kishimoto alluring to the fact that Naruto himself lost the powers, when that is not possible. Especially so when people theorized their gifts would go away after sealing Kaguya, and they did not. They are permanent.

Kishimoto made a statement about the Last: "We tried to stay as canon as possible"

So you can go ahead and complain, but when the manga and the movie itself back it up. You just lose.

@Bold, or he simply attained that power now, and can do so with Sage chakra... :|
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He lost all chakra at VOTE did he not? The last chakra given to him was by Kurama, was it not? Now where does he regain Sage's chakra? There is no endless supply of Sage chakra avalable to Naruto or Sasuke. Only 1 reasonable answer is that their own person base forms and powers were boosted by the sage chakra. And now can use powers without needing the Old man's chakra.

Naruto and Sasuke = Use their own chakra = no more of Rikudou's chakra

Naruto's chakra =/= Senjutsu chakra
Since you wnat me to prove they no longer have it.. despite them never showing to ahve it. Can you prove Naruto and Sasuke have the Rikudou's chakra? Do you believe Kishimoto wanted his main characters to rely on the power of their ancestor, instead of their own by the end?

@Bold, Naruto can no longer restore eyes. He needed the yang tag.

 

[SpoilerAlerts]

Yes he lost it now he just has six paths chakra enhanced full bm, the RSM was result of all 9 bijuu.

All 9 bijuus have nothing to do with senjustu of six paths ashura wasnt even a jin n he had more stable form.

 

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[KingHashirama]

All 9 bijuus have nothing to do with senjustu of six paths ashura wasnt even a jin n he had more stable form.

He didn't have RSM tho.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Ooh. And I don't understand what you guys are talking about. II have given proof above that Naruto was in RSM. The absence of goudama cannot be used as proof. Cuz Sasuke destroyed Naruto's last three in VOTE2

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[lndra]

Ooh. And I don't understand what you guys are talking about. II have given proof above that Naruto was in RSM. The absence of goudama cannot be used as proof. Cuz Sasuke destroyed Naruto's last three in VOTE2

He did not destroy them, TSB > Ninjutsu

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[UchihasRightfulHeir]

@Bold, or he simply attained that power now, and can do so with Sage chakra... :|
-sigh-..

He lost all chakra at VOTE did he not? The last chakra given to him was by Kurama, was it not? Now where does he regain Sage's chakra? There is no endless supply of Sage chakra avalable to Naruto or Sasuke. Only 1 reasonable answer is that their own person base forms and powers were boosted by the sage chakra. And now can use powers without needing the Old man's chakra.

Naruto and Sasuke = Use their own chakra = no more of Rikudou's chakra

Naruto's chakra =/= Senjutsu chakra
Since you wnat me to prove they no longer have it.. despite them never showing to ahve it. Can you prove Naruto and Sasuke have the Rikudou's chakra? Do you believe Kishimoto wanted his main characters to rely on the power of their ancestor, instead of their own by the end?

@Bold, Naruto can no longer restore eyes. He needed the yang tag.

Logically speaking you are right? But read my post. Its the one above yours. Tho it makes no sense, as he'd need a top up from the bijui. It seems he still has RM.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

He did not destroy them, TSB > Ninjutsu

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I don't really know what that picture is there for. But sasuke has sage chakra. So he can destroy goudama just like he could land attacks on limbo. Naruto's last three got obliterated. If they didn't then they would have been left intact in that collision.

 

[lndra]

@Bold, or he simply attained that power now, and can do so with Sage chakra... :|
-sigh-..

He can't simply do anything without Sage chakra. Flying is a sage ability, therefore he has the power. Nothing else, and nothing more.

He has RM and any excuse you have to make is fruitless.

I don't really know what that picture is there for. But sasuke has sage chakra. So he can destroy goudama just like he could land attacks on limbo. Naruto's last three got obliterated. If they didn't then they would have been left intact in that collision.

Sure he can destroy him, but he didn't. Naruto still has his TSB.

 

[Char Aznable]

No.

The movie was comissioned and put into production in 2012. Long before Studio Perriot had any idea what RSM would look like.

Think Toei Animation and False SSJ seen in the Lord Slug movie.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Interesting. Then I no longer believe he has RM. Logically speaking. He'll need a top up from thr bijuu. So unless he got that after his fight. Then no. I don't thing he has RM.
Maybe full kurama makes up for it. As from the last he seemed to have gotten some sweet power ups. Like he can release kurama and fight alongside it. No other jinchuuriki has this ability. Even bee, and he has full control of his bijuu.

 

[lndra]

Interesting. Then I no longer believe he has RM. Logically speaking. He'll need a top up from thr bijuu. So unless he got that after his fight. Then no. I don't thing he has RM.
Maybe full kurama makes up for it. As from the last he seemed to have gotten some sweet power ups. Like he can release kurama and fight alongside it. No other jinchuuriki has this ability. Even bee, and he has full control of his bijuu.

That's incorrect. RM does not need Bijuu -- It's Hagoromo's Senjutsu.

RSM Is H's Senjutsu + Kyuubi's chakra.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

That's incorrect. RM does not need Bijuu -- It's Hagoromo's Senjutsu.

RSM Is H's Senjutsu + Kyuubi's chakra.

I don't really believe that. So what the hell are the bijuu chakra there for then.

 

[juzumaki]

I don't really believe that. So what the hell are the bijuu chakra there for then.

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[KingHashirama]

He can't simply do anything without Sage chakra. Flying is a sage ability, therefore he has the power. Nothing else, and nothing more.

He has RM and any excuse you have to make is fruitless.


Sure he can destroy him, but he didn't. Naruto still has his TSB.

Just you repeating he has it won't translate into him having it. Hes shown to do it without the "RSM" form he got form rikudou, that means he doesn't need the RSM form he got.. not hard to comprehend.

 

[KingHashirama]

Logically speaking you are right? But read my post. Its the one above yours. Tho it makes no sense, as he'd need a top up from the bijui. It seems he still has RM.

Hmm no not really.

Look at Naruto's base chakra and how much its grown. That shunshin he did in base is superior to any shunshin he did in the war. He has mastery and growth of his own chakra.

By RSM i'm referring to the one he used at VOTE and against Kaguya. If you guys are calling his new mode RSM , thennn i'm not disagreeing.

If you look at his new form, it is simply Kyuubi mode with senjutsu chakra applied to it. For hell's sake Naruto and Sasuke are the reincarnations of Indra and Ashura, I do not see why they would need to rely on Rikudou's power.. that none of their ancestors relied on.

 

[iNotorious]

Hmm no not really.

Look at Naruto's base chakra and how much its grown. That shunshin he did in base is superior to any shunshin he did in the war. He has mastery and growth of his own chakra.

By RSM i'm referring to the one he used at VOTE and against Kaguya. If you guys are calling his new mode RSM , thennn i'm not disagreeing.

If you look at his new form, it is simply Kyuubi mode with senjutsu chakra applied to it. For hell's sake Naruto and Sasuke are the reincarnations of Indra and Ashura, I do not see why they would need to rely on Rikudou's power.. that none of their ancestors relied on.

The relied on rykudou's power at the end of the day and the old ancestors cannot be compared to the current one. Both indra and ashura have rikudou's power, therefore, madara and hashirama has rikudou's power but not a higher degree as getting more power from him directly, i'd say few percent.

 

[lndra]

Just you repeating he has it won't translate into him having it. Hes shown to do it without the "RSM" form he got form rikudou, that means he doesn't need the RSM form he got.. not hard to comprehend.

Sage Chakra means he has the form, not that hard to comprehend.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Sage Chakra means he has the form, not that hard to comprehend.

stop arguing with him Lol