Did Naruto even reach Nejis level in part 2?

[neosmith500]

By instantaneous I meant the time between Neji first uses the attack and the time it takes for the attack to reach the target. Sure if he's using it on someone close then the time would reduce but the air palm is specially used for ranged attack, for closed range gentle fist is the better option. And again I am not saying that air palm is slow but its not as fast as you believe it to be either. And I could be wrong here but considering the amount of info we have on the air palm, my point is still debatable.

So wats going on , u conceded to my above post or did u not see it?

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Naruto has never shown reaction timing which allows him to react to somthing as fast as Air-palm shot from 5m , not to mention even percieving it , and even if he does he wouldn't even know where the blast is aimed , meaning Neji can easily target his feet and let him fall on his own FRS.

Bro its just a debate , i respect u , so there is no need to try and get smart with me.
:| , we bros right?
:lol

Well air palm has never been used against Naruto anywhere so we won't know for sure what the outcome iwll be if such a scenario ever exist. The mangaka might follow my logic or maybe yours or maybe something entirely new. First of all we don't exactly know Part 2 Naruto's reaction timing against Neji's air palm so don't be so certain when making such a statement and sure Neji can target his feet but what you're missing here again is that the FRS can cover his entire body if he ever chooses to use it to defend himself against something like an air palm attack.

And on top of it does Neji's hand move any faster when he's using the air palm compared to his normal Taijutsu speed? I don't think so. Part 2 Naruto was able to keep up with Kakashi in taijustu so what makes you think that if Neji uses air palm from say 5m then Naruto won't bring forward his FRS to negate it. Watching Neji making a move from a distance of 5m, Naruto would know that its not a gentle fist taijutsu attack but a ranged air palm attack thus getting time to react.

@Bold I am glad to know that and that's why I am debating with you and not trolling in the first place, but as you said its just a debate and you have your way of seeing things and I have mine.

Pretty dame instantaneous from anywhere close to 4m , and again Naruto would never know where the blast is aimed , remember that Byakugan is used to pinpoint and snipe , so if Neji aims for his legs it doesn't even matter.

In regards to Kisame , no suprise since Samehaba was magically able to return the him giving him him tthe means to slow down the push , after already bein pushed.

First of all, I don't think Neji would use an air palm at a distance of 4m, he'd simply go for the 8 trigrams 64 palms and even if he does use it then there is small time gap between the user taking the stance and actually releasing it and as the videos below shows the released attack is not spread much at the point of origin and spreads after some distance. So at close range unless you get the time to take the stance and release it directly at the target it won't work and the time in between is enough for an opponent to step out of the way or go for a direct attack. Anyways its best suited for a mid range attack rather than a closed ranged one.

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Hinata's air palm..
[video=youtube;-KI6_NaIlNo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KI6_NaIlNo[/video]

So wats going on , u conceded to my above post or did u not see it?

And sorry I only got notification for this post so didn't know that you've replied.

 

[neosmith500]

Well air palm has never been used against Naruto anywhere so we won't know for sure what the outcome iwll be if such a scenario ever exist. The mangaka might follow my logic or maybe yours or maybe something entirely new. First of all we don't exactly know Part 2 Naruto's reaction timing against Neji's air palm so don't be so certain when making such a statement and sure Neji can target his feet but what you're missing here again is that the FRS can cover his entire body if he ever chooses to use it to defend himself against something like an air palm attack.

I see where ur coming from , its only a matter of if he can physically react to Air-palm , which we both diasgree on.

And on top of it does Neji's hand move any faster when he's using the air palm compared to his normal Taijutsu speed? I don't think so. Part 2 Naruto was able to keep up with Kakashi in taijustu so what makes you think that if Neji uses air palm from say 5m then Naruto won't bring forward his FRS to negate it. Watching Neji making a move from a distance of 5m, Naruto would know that its not a gentle fist taijutsu attack but a ranged air palm attack thus getting time to react.

Neji's hand speed is fast enough to make 64 thrusts in less that 1.3 seconds , P1 Genin days , and air palm itself generates the shockwave due to the compressed air + The speed at which he thrusts his Palm , so i think ur underating the striking speed of the hyuga along with the speed at which air-palm moves.

Also when did Naruto keep up with Kakashi's taijutsu and how is this scenario relevant to Neji? are u talking about the anime tho?

@Bold I am glad to know that and that's why I am debating with you and not trolling in the first place, but as you said its just a debate and you have your way of seeing things and I have mine.

I agree.

First of all, I don't think Neji would use an air palm at a distance of 4m, he'd simply go for the 8 trigrams 64 palms and even if he does use it then there is small time gap between the user taking the stance and actually releasing it and as the videos below shows the released attack is not spread much at the point of origin and spreads after some distance. So at close range unless you get the time to take the stance and release it directly at the target it won't work and the time in between is enough for an opponent to step out of the way or go for a direct attack. Anyways its best suited for a mid range attack rather than a closed ranged one.

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The hyuga are always in their stance , which makes them always ready to launch palm attacks nigh instantly , there is a time gap , but this gap is much shorter than the time it takes for P1 Genin Neji to land 64 thrusts , which is so fast its basically nigh instant.

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I also feel its good to note Neji's feats of body and reflex speeds , which again was genin days.

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So i dont see Naruto reacting to a blast that is co-dependent on that level of striking/body speed to generate its force.

And sorry I only got notification for this post so didn't know that you've replied.

I thought so , but rember this from now on , i always reply:Sparks:

 

[Ambivalence]

War Arc SM Naruto > Pain Arc SM Naruto > War Arc Neji > 1 FRS Naruto >> ES Naruto.