There is no evidence that would end dispute, but there is simple logic. Kishimoto likes to give his main characters powers ups, why would he give Sasuke a power up that is only temporary? Hes one his his favorite characters, you can take for granted that next time Sasuke will diplay PS with no trace of external help.
Did Nardo hand Sasuke PS?
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-He wasn't wearing the cloak at the time.
-Kurama didn't hand him chakra like he did for Kakashi, so that point is moot.
-He wasn't even inside the Kurama avatar when PS was activated. Even if he was, being present in the cloak doesn't increase your strength or power up your abilities.
Naruto obviously had no part in the activation of Perfect Susanoo or Sasuke's V3 legged Susanoo. None whatsoever.
-He wasn't wearing the cloak at the time.
-Kurama didn't hand him chakra like he did for Kakashi, so that point is moot.
-He wasn't even inside the Kurama avatar when PS was activated. Even if he was, being present in the cloak doesn't increase your strength or power up your abilities.
Naruto obviously had no part in the activation of Perfect Susanoo or Sasuke's V3 legged Susanoo. None whatsoever.
Lol at people saying Sasuke doesn't have the cloak anymore. Haven't we learned our lesson? Rewind it back like 3 chapters ago and we find that Kurama's chakra stays withing the users body, regardless of whether it shows. This was further backed up when Naruto reactivated his small amount of chakra in every ninja and had Minato teleport them. Sasuke received some chakra, therefore, he has some of Kurama's chakra; even right now.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sasuke's EMS did come from Naruto's chakra powering up the Yang half, however I agree with most of the members here, that there simply is no proof that Yin + Yang chakra is required to activate further down the susanoo progression line.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sasuke's EMS did come from Naruto's chakra powering up the Yang half, however I agree with most of the members here, that there simply is no proof that Yin + Yang chakra is required to activate further down the susanoo progression line.
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Lel... People really need to read the manga, it was clearly shown that naruto's cloak increases the power of the other person's jutsu. Regarding sasuke's sussano, the cloak may have played a part in the sussano getting legs but PS however well the face part was probably achieved by sasuke himself since the cloak wore off by then. Regardless the cloak being a factor or not doesnt really matter, sasuke would had eventually unlocked his new sussano feats anyway.
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To my understanding it's being implied that Sasuke can achieve the Perfect Susanoo as well as the Susanoo with legs without Kurama's Chakra. Sasuke has already shown that he can identify how much chakra a Shinobi or a Jutsu utilizes with his Sharingan eyes[
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]. Even after seeing Naruto's new form and all the Chakra leaking from his body he still felt as if he could match his strength[
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]. After being supplied some of the Kyuubi's Chakra and introducing his Susanoo w/ legs he speaks as if he could already achieve such power and there is more to come. Obviously, Sasuke's overview of the what he can do is polarized with Choji and the Shinobi Alliance's view of what they can now while the Cloak is present[
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]. Clearly, this is not enough to prove my case but it does show how often it was implied.
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What we know about the cloak for certain is that it increases durability and chakra to which ever entity it surrounds. However, the Cloak does not increase a techniques development. It was was shown that Kakashi could go into and out of the Kamui Dimension[
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]. The Conversation between Kakashi and Shikaku was about how because of the Kyuubi's Chakra he could bring the Hachibi as well. Kakashi even without the Cloak can travel back and forth between dimensions but with the Kyuubi Cloak he had enough Chakra to take the Hachibi. Hopefully, that's clear. Now this would mean Sasuke would be able to develop his Susanoo without the assistance of the Nine Tails Chakra. The Cloak does not develop techniques. In the latest Chapter it has also been implied the Chakra Cloak had vanished. While it is true that Katsuya said before that it the Chakra cloak had only diminished,but once Naruto's emotions rose and his Cloak rekindled the Shinobi Alliance's Cloaks flare again and with much more strength[
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]. This indicates the cloak is no longer present in Sasuke and that any feats he demonstrates now is completely his power just as before.
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Can't Naruto replenish someone's chakra by putting them in his BM shroud. Wasn't that how Kakashi originally received it? Correct me If I'm wrong, but Sasuke might be getting that 3x boost as we speak.( Also the fact that his original boost is still there).
To the argument about Chakra powering up Susano'o, I believe that it is giving Sasuke enough power/chakra to obtain PS prematurely, and from this point on he will be able to use it by himself.
To the argument about Chakra powering up Susano'o, I believe that it is giving Sasuke enough power/chakra to obtain PS prematurely, and from this point on he will be able to use it by himself.
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It stays, but it is obviously such a little amount that it doesn't power up the person's abilities, as seen by the ninja's display after the chakra cloaks disappeared.
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So far only the sasuke haters and naruto fans are in denial...... because they don't wanna admit sasuke's on naruto's level so they try to downplay his abilities.
We've seen someone with similar powers like sasuke( Ems madara) do the same without the kyubi's chakra so there's absolutely no reason whatsoever as to why sasuke can't pull that off on his own without the kyuubi's cloak.
We've seen someone with similar powers like sasuke( Ems madara) do the same without the kyubi's chakra so there's absolutely no reason whatsoever as to why sasuke can't pull that off on his own without the kyuubi's cloak.
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This chapter proves it with the statement that 'Two powers Mixing'. Which means, Naruto and Sasuke's have been treated as separately. For Naruto it's BSM and for Sasuke PS -
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. It's confirmed now that Sasuke progressed on his own.