Did Mei really deserve to be Mizukage?

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I'm not comparing their physical speeds because it obvious that Tsunade is faster then Mei, what I'm saying is that they only thing Mei has on Tsunade is her ninjutsu (kekkei genkai) and that Tsunade can outperform the time it takes Mei to initate them or make a hand seal.

no you are cherry picking
or i can just say Mei was able to form handseal and extinguish madara's katon[

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They are both same.Mei is long range fighter while Tsunade is close range fighter though Tsunade has advantage of massive chakra reserve and Katsuyu over her

Tsunade was also out of chakra, look at the next panel. She literally used the last bit of her stamina to jump in front of the kages.

yes but she had Byakugou mode meaning she had chakra and was most undamaged out of all kage's becoz of it

 

[TheEvilOne]

yes but she had Byakugou mode meaning she had chakra and was most undamaged out of all kage's becoz of it

Have you seen what happened on the next scan? She instantly run out of chakra as soon as she deflected the fireballs and the Byakugou healed her. This proves she was already at her limits. Same as the others.

 

[BLAZE]

Have you seen what happened on the next scan? She instantly run out of chakra as soon as she deflected the fireballs and the Byakugou healed her. This proves she was already at her limits. Same as the others.

yes which means her Byakugou seal ran out of chakra after she tries to heal from the after effect of madara's katon [

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Her just having Byakugou activated when madara attacked means she was in uninjured state unlike other kage's who just fought 5 susanoo clones and could not heal

 

[Melanin]

no you are cherry picking
or i can just say Mei was able to form handseal and extinguish madara's katon[

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The scans you posted doesn't prove illustrate (A) Mei forming any hand seals (B) Mei using her Suiton to extinguish Madara's Futon before Tsunade makes any movements (C) Tsunade even evading Madara's Futon or not.

You can't make a tangible contrast of Tsunades movements (speed) too Mei forming hand seals because you don't see Mei make any hand signs in a panel; plus Tsunade isn't present (in the scan) before Mei's Suiton is mentioned. For all we know Tsunade could've been out of the way or not in the direct line of attack.

We don't know but we do know that Tsunade has factually put preformed Mei's Suiton beforeZ

Mei is long range fighter while Tsunade is close range fighter though Tsunade has advantage of massive chakra reserve and Katsuyu over her

Yes Tsunade = close range & Mei = long range

^^^common sense, Tsunade still wins.

 

[BLAZE]

The scans you posted doesn't prove illustrate (A) Mei forming any hand seals (B) Mei using her Suiton to extinguish Madara's Futon before Tsunade makes any movements (C) Tsunade even evading Madara's Futon or not.

It specifically does since madara's flame was only few meters away from Tsunade.Water Geyser was not even needed to be shown if tsunade has already evaded the attack

You can't make a tangible contrast of Tsunades movements (speed) too Mei forming hand seals because you don't see Mei make any hand signs in a panel; plus Tsunade isn't present (in the scan) before Mei's Suiton is mentioned. For all we know Tsunade could've been out of the way or not in the direct line of attack.
We don't know but we do know that Tsunade has factually put preformed Mei's Suiton beforeZ

Lel there was not need of using Suiton Suijinchuu since the only reason it was used was to evaporate the fire that was targetting tsunade :lol Mei could have just used water dragon bullet if Tsunade was not in danger :lol

Yes Tsunade = close range & Mei = long range

^^^common sense, Tsunade still wins.

When did i denied that.
though Tsunade is not blitzing mei and oneshotting her

 

[TheEvilOne]

yes which means her Byakugou seal ran out of chakra after she tries to heal from the after effect of madara's katon [

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Her just having Byakugou activated when madara attacked means she was in uninjured state unlike other kage's who just fought 5 susanoo clones and could not heal

The Byakugou heals her wounds, but that doesn't mean she wasn't physically

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Couldn't find the Viz scan atm, but as I remember A pointed out she is sloppy because she is getting tired.

It specifically does since madara's flame was only few meters away from Tsunade.Water Geyser was not even needed to be shown if tsunade has already evaded the attack

She not only dodged the Katon, but she was also able to get away from Mei's suiton in time. The water erupted from the ground, right where Tsunade was standing a moment ago [

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The Byakugou heals her wounds, but that doesn't mean she wasn't physically

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Couldn't find the Viz scan atm, but as I remember A pointed out she is sloppy because she is getting tired.

As i said she was in the most perfect state since almost everyone was exhausted but only she was in uninjured state
Lol nope Ay called her sloppy becoz she was taking hits [

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slop·py
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adjective
1.
careless and unsystematic; excessively casual.

She not only dodged the Katon, but she was also able to get away from Mei's suiton in time. The water erupted from the ground, right where Tsunade was standing a moment ago [

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No Mei's suiton was never targetted on her.It was a geyser that erupted and only covered madara's Katon

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[TheEvilOne]

As i said she was in the most perfect state since almost everyone was exhausted but only she was in uninjured state
Lol nope Ay called her sloppy becoz she was taking hits [

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slop·py
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adjective
1.
careless and unsystematic; excessively casual.

No Mei's suiton was never targetted on her.It was a geyser that erupted and only covered madara's Katon

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He literally says you'll have no stamina left. This applies to both chakra reserves and her physical condition. It must be exhausting to fight with two giant blades in her abdomens. She even collapsed for a few seconds.

The other kages also had some chakra left, Mei even tried to use a Suiton, but she wasn't fast enough.

Exactly, it was a geyser erupted from the ground, right where Tsunade was standing. She clearly dodged it because I don't see her flying or drowning on that scan.

 

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He literally says you'll have no stamina left. This applies to both chakra reserves and her physical condition. It must be exhausting to fight with two giant blades in her abdomens. She even collapsed for a few seconds

Nope he called her out becoz she was being careless.He has no way to know her chakra reserve.

The other kages also had some chakra left, Mei even tried to use a Suiton, but she wasn't fast enough.

Tsunade is the one with Byakugou.Gaara and Ei have large reserve same is not true for Mei and Ohnoki.Ohnoki was shown to be almost out of chakra

Exactly, it was a geyser erupted from the ground, right where Tsunade was standing. She clearly dodged it because I don't see her flying or drowning on that scan.

No she was not she was few meters away
geyser erupted and went towards katon opposite to tsunade

 

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So now you argument is reduced to deny manga facts because they dead your argument? Or have you misread something? Either way here goes the facts.,

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Dead argument?

I never said she could regenerate a limb instantly, the defection isn't working.

Really?

Oh, Now tsunade can instantly regenerate limbs now?.

Yes.

instantly replace the parts of her body that are no longer there due to the erosion.

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Her chakra ran out..

No chakra no regeneration via byakygou.

Obselete example..

she healed her arms with byakugou, Then her chakra/the seal ran out.

Try again.

Lol that is instant - you looking desperate now lol

I don't think you know what instant means.

I'm done lol now your trolling like a b!tch.

Trolling am i?

> Claims i'm denying the manga
> Claims i have a dead argument
> Completely denys Feats of Tsunades regeneration not being instant based on manga feats that have been provided
> Not understanding the difference between instantaneous healing and Very fast healing

Yet i'm the one trolling XD

 

[Melanin]

Dead argument?

Yup, the manga says she can regenerate limps.

Really?

Yup..

Example: Orochimaru impaled Tsunade frontal cavity or chest multiple times, which is part of her body.

She instantly regenerated it back to its unharmed state.

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Ill help you out: when it comes to the reference of limbs distinctively being regenerated, I will always make it clear that I'm talking about regenrating limbs in a singular context as opposed to other parts of the body subject to regeneration. But since where on the topic, can u disprove that a limb wouldn't be instantly regenerated via creation rebirth or strength of 100 tech?

There is absolutely no conflicting manga evidence that says other wise or contradicts Tsunades statements. teacher says 4+4 is 8, you do not go "I would like to see proof of that!" because, as your math teacher, they know. Tsunade knows about her own abilities, so saying she might be wrong without any evidence supporting that claim is completely fallacious.

she healed her arms with byakugou, Then her chakra/the seal ran out.

Try again.

I said that before you did lol

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Why would I try again? You need to because that exact scan u posted clearly showed Tsunade instantly regenrating contrary to you saying she didn't didn't.

You soloed yourself.

I don't think you know what instant means.

No you don't lol

This is Instant regeneration.

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You have no counter.

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Claims i'm denying the manga

You are by saying Tsunades regeneration isn't instant and that she can't regenerate limbs.


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Claims i have a dead argument

You do.,

You failed to prove that Tsunade doesn't regenerated Instantly just as you've failed to counter the lava/acid in contrast to Byakygou.


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Completely denys Feats of Tsunades regeneration not being instant based on manga feats that have been provided

You haven't provided a feat where she doesn't heal instantly.

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Not understanding the difference between instantaneous healing and Very fast healing

Lol very fast healing isn't a cannon term but hilarious mention.

Just take your, you look desperate resorting terms like "very fast healing" because you don't want to accept the definition of instant and why it applies.

in·stant

• happening or coming immediately. • urgent; pressing • a very short space of time; a moment.

Please tell me how that doesn't apply to this.....

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Yep you trolling XD

 

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I said that before you did lol

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Why would I try again? You need to because that exact scan u posted clearly showed Tsunade instantly regenrating contrary to you saying she didn't didn't.

You soloed yourself.

In that very scan she healed her damn arms, It was after the healing her seal ran out. Dear god, It's like explaining that sakura had Shin's blade sticking out of her arm all over again.
Instant = Techniques like FTG which is literal Instantaneous teleportation, Happens instantly, Zero time passes between Point A too Point B
Tsunades healing, Time Passes between Point A too Point B > Not instantaneous.

Let me put in terms you might understand.
Now lets break it down for you, This is the defnintion of what you gave me
• happening or coming immediately. • urgent; pressing • a very short space of time; a moment.

Sasuke's body flicker is classified as instant according to this.
FTG is also classified as instant.
Now answer me what is faster, FTG or Hebi sasuke's body flicker.

 

[Melanin]

In that very scan she healed her damn arms, It was after the healing her seal ran out.

I said that before you did!

Her chakra ran out after she instantly regenerated. Remember, whether she instantly regenerated or not was the focal point of your argument and my counter. You said her healing wasn't instant yet the scan you posted proves it is. Which made your reference to that particular feat obsolete to the favor of your own argument.

Dear god, It's like explaining that sakura had Shin's blade sticking out of her arm all over again.

No it would be like how i reminded you that Lava & acid don't have conscious movements and that they erode straight through whatever it's touching; it doesn't have an enteral burn like a flame.

Instant = Techniques like FTG which is literal Instantaneous teleportation, Happens instantly, Zero time passes between Point A too Point

The Strength Of One Hundred is instanous, you can keep saying otherwise all you want but it doesn't change anything.

Example: the second Tsunadr removed the susanoo blades from her abdomen, you clearly see the regeneration initiate and repair her abdomine the second she removed the moment she removed them.

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healing, Time Passes between Point A too Point B > Not instantaneous.

What would be point B if Tsunades regeneration goes right into effect the moment her body is damaged minus hand seals or any conscious effort? The only time there would be a a point A-B contrast is if an inanimate object is stuck in her body preventing the damage to be 100% reversed being.

Let me put in terms you might understand.
Now lets break it down for you, This is the defnintion of what you gave me
• happening or coming immediately. • urgent; pressing • a very short space of time; a moment.

Why are you posting what I've already posted? Anyway let's break these definitions down.

• happening or coming immediately

Tsunade immediately regenerated adter she removed Madara's susanoo blades.
Say she didn't!

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Sasuke's body flicker is classified as instant according to this.
FTG is also classified as instant.
Now answer me what is faster, FTG or Hebi sasuke's body flicker.

You tell me lol

Byakygou is instant no matter the answer to your question.

 

[TheEvilOne]

The regeneration process starts INSTANTLY but it still takes time for the technique to fully heal the wound. Regenerating an arm would take longer than closing a wound in her abdomens.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Yes Tsunade = close range & Mei = long range

^^^common sense, Tsunade still wins.

actually the close range fighter is the one always at a disadvantage

 

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Tsunade immediately regenerated adter she removed Madara's susanoo blades.
Say she didn't!

Convenient you posted a scan of her healing that doesn't show a close up of the wound Nor shows effect that looks like steam coming off the wounds as they're being healed/closed Very selective scan you have there

At least try to hide the bias.

You tell me lol

Byakygou is instant no matter the answer to your question.

Ha, The very fact you refused to answer that simple question shows your bias to this subject. You know the answer you just don't want to openly admit the difference between them because it strengthens my apparent "dead argument".

Sasuke's body flicker is classified as instant according to this.
FTG is also classified as instant.
Now answer me what is faster, FTG or Hebi sasuke's body flicker.
Answer: FTG is Faster.

But how can this be?!, nothing is faster than instantaneous speed right?!?!. I'm gonna let you ponder of that for a while, Don't think to hard though, might hurt ya self.

The regeneration process starts INSTANTLY but it still takes time for the technique to fully heal the wound. Regenerating an arm would take longer than closing a wound in her abdomens.

Bold is just common sense really.

The only real question is how long and how much chakra is required, since regenerating an entire limb from scratch is far more complicated and difficult of a task than that stabbing wounds and such.

 

[Melanin]

Convenient you posted a scan of her healing that doesn't show a close up of the wound Nor shows effect that looks like steam coming off the wounds as they're being healed/closed Very selective scan you have there

At least try to hide the bias.




Ha, The very fact you refused to answer that simple question shows your bias to this subject. You know the answer you just don't want to openly admit the difference between them because it strengthens my apparent "dead argument".

Sasuke's body flicker is classified as instant according to this.
FTG is also classified as instant.
Now answer me what is faster, FTG or Hebi sasuke's body flicker.
Answer: FTG is Faster.

But how can this be?!, nothing is faster than instantaneous speed right?!?!. I'm gonna let you ponder of that for a while, Don't think to hard though, might hurt ya self.



Bold is just common sense really.

The only real question is how long and how much chakra is required, since regenerating an entire limb from scratch is far more complicated and difficult of a task than that stabbing wounds and such.

I've already proved everything you've claimed to be false wrong.

Creation Rebirth is instanous.

The Strength Of 100 is instanous.

Tsunade can regenerate parts of her body.

You have no counter to the idea of her limbs regenrating instantly if Byakygou is in effect.

You have zero proof that entells FTG being faster then any of Tsunades regenerative abilities, the only thing you have is your assertions abd made up terms like "very fast" and those aren't facts.

Lava & Acid wouldn't spread throughout Tsunades body or stand fast on any part of her body and continuously burn because both variations would instantly erode through her body.


Mei loses to Tsunade, your biased and love down playing spefic characters.

I've already owned this argument, respond of you like but you can't counter anything I posted with a scan.

 

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You have zero proof that entells FTG being faster then any of Tsunades regenerative abilities, the only thing you have is your assertions abd made up terms like "very fast" and those aren't facts.

Cellular regeneration takes time. Byakogou speeds up the process manifold but teleportation is instant, now do the math.

 

[Icelerate]

which does not matter since she is strongest in the village
Example: If gaara somehow dies the next in line of kage if we talk aboutfeats would have been Temari and kakkuru who would have been weakest among current kages

After Mei chojuro became kage who gets pasted by even Mei so yes Mei is the most logical choice for kage here

and also strength has nothing to do with being Kage aka kakashi when compared to his konaha ninja's and Kage's

I think Temari can beat Kurotsuchi and Chojuro by feats though.

 

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You have zero proof that entells FTG being faster then any of Tsunades regenerative abilities

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I really hope your trolling, you cannot be this retarded XD