did madara use genjutsu or amatersu on hashirama!?!?!

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He used it on Killer B
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Only fools will deny he has it.
Oh, I guess Sasuke has four Mangekyo techniques then.

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It's a weak genjutsu that doesn't last long

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Itachi: Tsukiyomi!
Sasuke: Genjutsu Sharingan!

These are their Mangekyo genjutsus, and proves that Sasuke doesn't have Tsukiyomi. Also, isn't it weird that whenever Sasuke is using Amaterasu or Susano'o it's always noted somewhere? But when Sasuke uses your so called Tsukiyomi, they only say that it's genjutsu/illusion.

sigh... databook>manga :sy:

if kishi saids sussano needs amaterasu and tysukomi then it needs it. simple as that.
Databook said that Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage and that Amaterasu is as hot as the sun, but I guess you believe those things, because Databook is always right.
 
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Manga said that only those who have mastered both of their Mangekyos are able to awaken the Third Power Susano'o and this came after the Databook. And because Madara and Sasuke haven't used the techniques that are said to be requirements for Susano'o, I'm going with what manga told us.
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The third and final technique.. along with tsukyomi and amaterasu that unlocked on that faithful day..


So we have Itachi saying you need both tsuk and ama,
You have databooks saying you need both tsuk and ama

And you have sasuke, who doesn't know shit about mangekyou, who said he got it from double mangekyou

and you believe sasuke?
Retard logic myself..

Not to mention that the japanese myth of amaterasu , tsukyomi and susannno are all interrelated .. it's OBVIOUS they all have the abilities..


Sasuke didn't just randomly activate his ms to use a genjutsu on bee...
 

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Oh, I guess Sasuke has four Mangekyo techniques then.

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It's a weak genjutsu that doesn't last long

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Itachi: Tsukiyomi!
Sasuke: Genjutsu Sharingan!

These are their Mangekyo genjutsus, and proves that Sasuke doesn't have Tsukiyomi. Also, isn't it weird that whenever Sasuke is using Amaterasu or Susano'o it's always noted somewhere? But when Sasuke uses your so called Tsukiyomi, they only say that it's genjutsu/illusion.



Databook said that Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage and that Amaterasu is as hot as the sun, but I guess you believe those things, because Databook is always right.
no i think hashi>hiruzen and amaterasu isnt as hot as the sun :cool:
 

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Oh, I guess Sasuke has four Mangekyo techniques then.

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It's a weak genjutsu that doesn't last long

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Itachi: Tsukiyomi!
Sasuke: Genjutsu Sharingan!

These are their Mangekyo genjutsus, and proves that Sasuke doesn't have Tsukiyomi. Also, isn't it weird that whenever Sasuke is using Amaterasu or Susano'o it's always noted somewhere? But when Sasuke uses your so called Tsukiyomi, they only say that it's genjutsu/illusion.



Databook said that Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage and that Amaterasu is as hot as the sun, but I guess you believe those things, because Databook is always right.
thank you was just a simple genjutsu nothing more so madara doesnt have amaterasu
 

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I can't believe people still argue with this. Sasuke has Tsukuyomi. Madara has Tsukuyomi... He clearly uses it on both Danzo AND Bee and people try to say its a normal genjutsu? Its all tied together by Japanese mythology.
 

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The third and final technique.. along with tsukyomi and amaterasu that unlocked on that faithful day..


So we have Itachi saying you need both tsuk and ama,
You have databooks saying you need both tsuk and ama

And you have sasuke, who doesn't know shit about mangekyou, who said he got it from double mangekyou

and you believe sasuke?
Retard logic myself..

Not to mention that the japanese myth of amaterasu , tsukyomi and susannno are all interrelated .. it's OBVIOUS they all have the abilities..


Sasuke didn't just randomly activate his ms to use a genjutsu on bee...
Itachi was talking about himself :sy: Like really, how many techniques Mangekyo actually gives you? Sasuke clearly has his own Genjutsu and he always uses MS, not to mention right MS to use it. And Tsukiyomi that can control space, time and objects? Man, Sasuke is better in genjutsu than I thought!
 

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Itachi was talking about himself :sy: Like really, how many techniques Mangekyo actually gives you? Sasuke clearly has his own Genjutsu and he always uses MS, not to mention right MS to use it. And Tsukiyomi that can control space, time and objects? Man, Sasuke is better in genjutsu than I thought!

what are you talking about?

Sasuke doesn't have the ability to control space and time in his tsukyomi because he isn't a genjutsu expert.. Just like Itachi doesn't have the ability to manipulate amaterasu like sasuke....

Sure he was talking about himself, Yet you disregard itachi's statement, the statement from databooks,

And Madara's obvious hint that he has tsukyomi,when he made a plan to cast it on the moon
 

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In Japanese mythology, Susanoo, the powerful storm of Summer, is the brother of Amaterasu, the goddess of the sun, and of Tsukuyomi, the god of the moon. All three were born from Izanagi, when he washed his face clean of the pollutants of Yami, the underworld. Amaterasu was born when Izanagi washed out his left eye, Tsukuyomi was born from the washing of the right eye, and Susanoo from the washing of the nose.

This is when he uses Tsukuyomi on Bee and he using it on a stronger scale.

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This is when he awakens Amateratsu.

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Notice the backlash he is getting from both eyes after its usage?

Now here is Itachi saying he has to use Tsukuyomi to control and get information out of Kabuto.

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This is Sasuke doing the exact same thing.

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what are you talking about?

Sasuke doesn't have the ability to control space and time in his tsukyomi because he isn't a genjutsu expert.. Just like Itachi doesn't have the ability to manipulate amaterasu like sasuke....

Sure he was talking about himself, Yet you disregard itachi's statement, the statement from databooks,

And Madara's obvious hint that he has tsukyomi,when he made a plan to cast it on the moon
Exactly! Sasuke doesn't have Tsukiyomi and Itachi doesn't have Enton! And I'm ignoring your facts? It's the other way around, please explain these:

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And the fact that it's never said nor noted that Sasuke has used Tsukiyomi unlike his other MS techniques. (Amaterasu, Susano'o and Enton)
 

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Exactly! Sasuke doesn't have Tsukiyomi and Itachi doesn't have Enton! And I'm ignoring your facts? It's the other way around, please explain these:

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And the fact that it's never said nor noted that Sasuke has used Tsukiyomi unlike his other MS techniques. (Amaterasu, Susano'o and Enton)
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explain this, tobi saids itachi TRANSFERRED ALL HIS TECHNIQUE TO SASUKE

that meens he transferred amaterasu and tykusyomi into sasuke :rolleyes:
 

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Exactly! Sasuke doesn't have Tsukiyomi and Itachi doesn't have Enton! And I'm ignoring your facts? It's the other way around, please explain these:

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And the fact that it's never said nor noted that Sasuke has used Tsukiyomi unlike his other MS techniques. (Amaterasu, Susano'o and Enton)
enton isn't a friken ability.. it's manipulating amaterasu.... nature transformation , nothing more..


Controlling space and time isn't an ability... it's itachi's prowess..Itachi can also turn amaterasu off an manipulate it but not on sasuke's level -_-

When itachi uses tsukyomi, he doesn't shout the word tsukyomi like he does with amterasu.... nor does sasuke.. He uses tsukyomi on bee and displayed the same pain in the eye signs that Itachi displays.. It was tsukyomi,

 

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Stop saying dumb things, mito was not there during the fight because she would havebeen killed and hashi was a master of genjutsu, ninjutsu, and taijutsu that was the reason they called the senju clan a clan of thousands of skill.
hashi could have been the one to cast genjutsu on madara instead of the other way around.
 

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sigh...

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explain this, tobi saids itachi TRANSFERRED ALL HIS TECHNIQUE TO SASUKE

that meens he transferred amaterasu and tykusyomi into sasuke :rolleyes:
Well if that's true, why Itachi was so surprised that Sasuke also had Susano'o if Itachi gave it to him? lol

enton isn't a friken ability.. it's manipulating amaterasu.... nature transformation , nothing more..


Controlling space and time isn't an ability... it's itachi's prowess..Itachi can also turn amaterasu off an manipulate it but not on sasuke's level -_-

When itachi uses tsukyomi, he doesn't shout the word tsukyomi like he does with amterasu.... nor does sasuke.. He uses tsukyomi on bee and displayed the same pain in the eye signs that Itachi displays.. It was tsukyomi,

You're still ignoring those pages, which clearly shows that Sasuke's MS genjutsu isn't Tsukiyomi. Also, let's see the times when Itachi used Tsukiyomi:

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Whenever Itachi has used Tsukiyomi, it's always noted somewhere.
 

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Well if that's true, why Itachi was so surprised that Sasuke also had Susano'o if Itachi gave it to him? lol



You're still ignoring those pages, which clearly shows that Sasuke's MS genjutsu isn't Tsukiyomi. Also, let's see the times when Itachi used Tsukiyomi:

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Whenever Itachi has used Tsukiyomi, it's always noted somewhere.

Yea like it was noted in his fight against Sasuke -_-
 

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Could be that Mito broke him out of Tsukyomi or he had wood clones to break him out.
Madara would destroy Mito if she interrupted, as if Mito can do something against Madara LOL.

Stop saying dumb things, mito was not there during the fight because she would havebeen killed and hashi was a master of genjutsu, ninjutsu, and taijutsu that was the reason they called the senju clan a clan of thousands of skill.
hashi could have been the one to cast genjutsu on madara instead of the other way around.
Exactly, she most likely came after Madara was defeated and sealed the Kyuubi inside herself
 

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Databook said that Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage and that Amaterasu is as hot as the sun, but I guess you believe those things, because Databook is always right.
We definitely should not apply our laws of physics to the manga because frankly the majority of Naruto is impossible in our world.
 
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