**Did Madara Really Master The Rinnegan Before Death!?**

[00Rinne]

I'm having a problem with my peeps an wanted the base thoughts on this to close another debate out with them.. So help me out if you can..
Thanx!

Ok!
I've come to the notion that Madara didn't master the Rinne before his death..
Why?
Because I think that Madara rushed into summoning the Mazou before working out the kinks on the Rinnegan an paralyzed himself by doin so.

How did I come to this!? Simple..
I use Nagato as my case.. We know Madara gave Nagato his Rinnegan.. Nagato was just a child when this occurs so he had plenty of time with the eye. {The paths} We see Nagato do all of what we as readers expect to see out of the others who have this eye. {Madara/Sasuke} Nagato used the eye for years before he summoned the mazou an ended up in the same state as Madara once he did so. Alive Nagato had serious amounts of chakra to use these abilities outside the mazou by the way.
Nagato's edo proves to me that he had a far superior understanding of the Rinnegan then we give him credit for.

Side Note: Nagato could handle both Rinnegans bein pure Uzumaki while Obito had issues with just1 with hashiroids in him.

What!?... Killa Bee/Naruto Vs edo Nagato.
Nagato absorbs version 4cloak from Bee to revive himself with ease.. If Madara had mastered the Rinne before his death, then he should've been able to do the same knowing the techinque if mastery was there. He had ample time even as an old man. He rushed his Keikaku paralyzing himself without knowing the Rinnegans hax to the body.
{He should've known the eye was dangerous just off of the Sharingans hax to the body. Hell, he had to take his brothers eyes to go beyond}

Spoiler: The hole

Kishimoto left a hole!.. The story tells us Obito taught Nagato how to use the Rinne's powers who was taught by Madara.. How is this so when Madara himself didn't have mastery but knew how to sinc/summon with the mazou only. Outside of IT

My argument is this.. Madara is a Sharingan user with no1 to teach him the eyes potential. Sasuke is in the same department in this case too IMO. BZ never shared the intel of the eyes hax if he knew of it.. {The Rinnegan alone isn't COAT} All he wanted was the chakra for Kaguya.

My homies are on the belief that anything that Nagato pulled off with it then Madara can/could do or knew as well before his death because it's his eye.. They say he mastered the eye but there's no proof that he did to me with what I've stated above an with what the series gives us..
The mastery that I believe Madara got from the Rinne was only after he was JJ with COAT. That's the only time to me where he had superior understanding of all things & complete mastery of the Rinnegan..

I'm I wrong here & my peeps have it correct or vise versa cause they cant prove he did but we're give the assumption he did because of his JJ status imo.

I'm catching alot of flack for this so I needed input outside the circle..
Help me please! Help me please!..
Thanx again.

 

[Animegoin]

I must correct you on the belief that Madara was paralyzed, he never was. He was just extremely old and decided to extend his life by hooking himself up to the Gedo Statue (which contains power Life energy). That was confirmed by Madara himself chapter 602. And Kurama spoke on the life energy of the Gedo in chapter 656.

Also, Nagato was only crippled due to his legs being damaged by the explosion he endured rescuing Konan.

I agree that it is possible that Madara never fully explored the power of the Rinnegan, however I believe that it’s unlikely. Remember that Madara was the one who taught Obito the Rinnegan Six Paths, and Obito obviously taught them to Nagato since Nagato utilized the chakra rods for them as per Madara’s instruction (Chapter 606).

I believe that Kishimoto just nerfed Madara and I understand why he did.

 

[salamander uchiha]

I must correct you on the belief that Madara was paralyzed, he never was. He was just extremely old and decided to extend his life by hooking himself up to the Gedo Statue (which contains power Life energy). That was confirmed by Madara himself chapter 602. And Kurama spoke on the life energy of the Gedo in chapter 656.

Also, Nagato was only crippled due to his legs being damaged by the explosion he endured rescuing Konan.

I agree that it is possible that Madara never fully explored the power of the Rinnegan, however I believe that it’s unlikely. Remember that Madara was the one who taught Obito the Rinnegan Six Paths, and Obito obviously taught them to Nagato since Nagato utilized the chakra rods for them as per Madara’s instruction (Chapter 606).

I believe that Kishimoto just nerfed Madara and I understand why he did.

Well that was a pretty fast solo.

 

[kc5181]

It's your imagination, if Obito lied about Madara then that is your opinion.

 

[00Rinne]

I must correct you on the belief that Madara was paralyzed, he never was. He was just extremely old and decided to extend his life by hooking himself up to the Gedo Statue (which contains power Life energy). That was confirmed by Madara himself chapter 602. And Kurama spoke on the life energy of the Gedo in chapter 656.

Also, Nagato was only crippled due to his legs being damaged by the explosion he endured rescuing Konan.

I agree that it is possible that Madara never fully explored the power of the Rinnegan, however I believe that it’s unlikely. Remember that Madara was the one who taught Obito the Rinnegan Six Paths, and Obito obviously taught them to Nagato since Nagato utilized the chakra rods for them as per Madara’s instruction (Chapter 606).

I believe that Kishimoto just nerfed Madara and I understand why he did.

I know i said paralyzed when i should've said immobile. (Pretty much the same in their case because of their restricted moment)
Madara attacthed to the Mazou, Nagato lost his legs so it's why I used paralyzed.
That wasn't the just of the thread though.
I believe I got the answer i was looking for though vague, you did give me input which I appreciate.

Well that was a pretty fast solo.

There's nothing to solo in this thread Sal.. It's a discussion on weather or not Madara actually mastered the six paths that Nagato did before his first death..
Pay attention to his post before you wank

It's your imagination, if Obito lied about Madara then that is your opinion.

If it's just my imagination, then prove me wrong..
Better yet you shouldn't waste your time on it because you can't prove me wrong just like my homies can't..
I like Madara just as any1 else but I seem to have more respect for his character then most his fans do for the simple fact that I keep him in his lane an don't give him what he doesn't have like I do for all the characters in the NV..

Make up excusses for Kishi if it helps you feel good but it won't change the fact that he didn't master the six paths as Nagato did before death.

 

[Animegoin]

I know i said paralyzed when i should've said immobile. (Pretty much the same in their case because of their restricted moment)
Madara attacthed to the Mazou, Nagato lost his legs so it's why I used paralyzed.
That wasn't the just of the thread though.
I believe I got the answer i was looking for though vague, you did give me input which I appreciate.

I thought I answered it plainly but nonetheless, no problem.

 

[kc5181]

I know i said paralyzed when i should've said immobile. (Pretty much the same in their case because of their restricted moment)
Madara attacthed to the Mazou, Nagato lost his legs so it's why I used paralyzed.
That wasn't the just of the thread though.
I believe I got the answer i was looking for though vague, you did give me input which I appreciate.

There's nothing to solo in this thread Sal.. It's a discussion on weather or not Madara actually mastered the six paths that Nagato did before his first death..
Pay attention to his post before you wank

If it's just my imagination, then prove me wrong..
Better yet you shouldn't waste your time on it because you can't prove me wrong just like my homies can't..
I like Madara just as any1 else but I seem to have more respect for his character then most his fans do for the simple fact that I keep him in his lane an don't give him what he doesn't have like I do for all the characters in the NV..

Make up excusses for Kishi if it helps you feel good but it won't change the fact that he didn't master the six paths as Nagato did before death.

Chillax and smoke a joint your opinion blew my mind

 

[Sarada got pantsed]

Madara did not rush into immobilizing himself with the mazou. He literally had to do that or else he would have died on the spot. Remember, Madara awakened the rinnegan at the moment when he was about to die.