Did Madara really lose against Hashi? (misconception)

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Many people say Madara actually won Hashi since his only goal was to get Senju dna. I guess the most of u already know what im going to say. But im still wirting this because there are still NB members who use to say "Madara won this fight".
Here we can see Madara stating himself he took Hashis cells to heal himself.
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So he never knew how to unlock the Rinnegan and it was never his goal to do so. He actually got the Rinnegan excidently. Otherwise it would make much more sense to get the Rinnegan BEFORE the fight with Hashi. (He could easily kill a Senju member and get his dna before fighting Hashi)
 

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maybe read thread first?
I did , and besides if madara was fighting to gain hashiramas powers than you figure he would have obviously been fighting harder than to just win, i mean why else would he have shown up with kurama,taking his brother eyes to obtain,all that training and preparing? maybe he didn't know about the rinnegan but he did know what he wanted for hashirama and he was willing to go through hell and back to get it, which i worth much more than a win that madara knew he wouldn't get anyway.
 
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how is madara getting hashiramas cells classed as winning a fight i dont believe he went in the fight with the intention to get the dna unless someone can give me a link to the chapter page where madara states that was his intention. he wanted to take down hashi once and for all and lost he even states he lost but he won in the long run but just because he lived longer then hashi doesnt mean anything plus its because of hashi he lived so long also if people are gonna say he didnt go all out because he just wanted his dna well then explain why he couldnt do that after killing hashirama.
in the end hashirama won the fight just except it and just because he lost doesnt mean he is weak
 
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He awakened the Rinnegan when his life span was almost over. So even if he had gotten Senju DNA he wouldn't have had the Rinnegan for the fight. Not sure though, just basing off of what that panel says. I also think he possibly did know how to awaken the Rinnegan. It's how he figured out his plan to be revived by Nagato. Madara lost the battle but his main goal was for the future. He had his plan thought out before the fight.
 

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the reason why he went to that fight was to gain a portion of hashi's strength to get rinnegan he probably read the uchiha tablet with the ems and figured out how to get the rinnegan.
it would have been a lot easier to kill hashi and get his dna but because of hashi messing him up so bad madara had to make up this whole moon eye plan
 

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Well I believe Madara's intention was to kill Hashirama, take his DNA so that he can have Hashi's Kekkei Genkai, but also to become tha leader of Konoha becoz he didn't want to become senju dogs, but Hashi stopped him and he only got 1 of his goals fulfilled which is to gain Hashi's cells, I guess Madara didn't know about Rinnengan he just wanted Hashi's DNA and his abilities to control bijuu, but the Rinnegan wasn't on the picture U_U
 
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THAT IS PURE BS .... hashirama won and madara admired his power like we all saw, nothing shown even gave a hint about madara not loosing, please don't listen to fanboys .... they convince themselves with BS, if madara was sooo sure about his power then why did he even bring the kyuubi to the fight (for assist) and yet loose ?? for kicks :sy: ?? he waned to beat hashirama so bad ....
 
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