Did Madara lose on purpose? [Poll]

Did Madara purposely lose against Hashi?

  • Yes, Madara purposely lost the fight

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • No, Madara did not purposely lose

    Votes: 18 60.0%

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Kαmi

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To start off, I know for a fact that Hashirama > Madara. That being said, I still wonder if Madara purposely lost the battle at VOTE. My main reason for thinking this is because it seems like Madara's undoing was being fooled by the wood clone.
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But how could that be? Madara himself claimed that he was the only one who could see through his clones after fighting Hashirama in the past with his eye techniques.
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It doesn't make sense if Madara to say this if he was fooled by it in his final fight against Hashirama. Now some of you will say Madara deactivated his Sharingan, which is true, but if you look here
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you'll see that Madara takes notice of Hashirama with his EMS activated and the very next page proceeds to a timeskip where the two are staring each other down and Madara then his Sharingan deactivated. I believe Madara knew he was fighting a clone and deliberately let Hashi get the final blow on him. Since Hashi didn't check to make sure he died, Madara lied still and allowed him to escape from Hashi without having to worry about him interfering with his long term plans.
Another thing to note is what Obito mentions to Konan about Madara and Hashirama's fight.
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Here we have Tobi posing as Madara fighting Konan. Obito says the true winner is the one who fought for the future and that he (Tobi as Madara) fought to gain access to Hashi's abilities.

Well that's my opinion for today's chapter on what really went down for the VOTE fight between Madara and Hashirama. Anyway, I'm curious to what the majority of NB thinks of what happened so please vote on the poll!
 

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I think Hashirama was under a genjutsu the whole time they fought mano-a-mano after the kyuubi vs 1k hands battle
 

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no, after he showed his MS in that panel they battled more and he eventually became to exhausted to use it.
 

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I believe that during their final fight Madara had the intent of killing Hashirama and stealing his DNA. Only to realize that Hashirama is too strong and decided to fake his death after he obtained DNA.
 

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hashi realized he would kill any threat to his village even if he considered that person a brother that's when hashi decided to kill madara
how was madara suppose to know that hashi would come up with that resolve right there
he said that hashi changed
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so no i dont think madara lost on purpose
 

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I think Hashirama was under a genjutsu the whole time they fought mano-a-mano after the kyuubi vs 1k hands battle

That's a possibility, I'm more bias to my opinion though because Madara seemed to find it amusing when he deceive the Kages using the same technique he claimed he could see through.
no, after he showed his MS in that panel they battled more and he eventually became to exhausted to use it.

I'm saying that Hashirama used the wood clone in that panel, and the wood clone is the one that fought Madara to the point where Madara exhausted his Sharingan. Wood clones are pretty durable which is shown by Yamato and Madara. It would also explain how Hashi snuck up behind Madara.
 

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I think Hashirama was under a genjutsu the whole time they fought mano-a-mano after the kyuubi vs 1k hands battle

I don't think so because then hashirama would have noticed his armor was not destroyed after the genjutsu was over, also madara wouldn't have a scar, and openly admit the 1st beat him.
 

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I believe that during their final fight Madara had the intent of killing Hashirama and stealing his DNA. Only to realize that Hashirama is too strong and decided to fake his death after he obtained DNA.

Yeah I think the same. I think after he noticed the wood clone, he realized he didn't have the stamina to keep fighting and that's when his Sharingan deactivates.
 

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We have pro troll here. I wish that guy that complains baout Misaki Yata's sigs finds his way in this thread with the sound on :D

No. There are no pro trolls. Only kids who wrongly think they're clever.
 

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That's a possibility, I'm more bias to my opinion though because Madara seemed to find it amusing when he deceive the Kages using the same technique he claimed he could see through.


I'm saying that Hashirama used the wood clone in that panel, and the wood clone is the one that fought Madara to the point where Madara exhausted his Sharingan. Wood clones are pretty durable which is shown by Yamato and Madara. It would also explain how Hashi snuck up behind Madara.

madara already shows us that a wood clone can be used so effectively that it's possible even in the heat of battle, it probably was after he ran out, as hashirama wouldn't have done it when he had EMS on, seeing he (madara) most likely has seen through it before.
 

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I believe that during their final fight Madara had the intent of killing Hashirama and stealing his DNA. Only to realize that Hashirama is too strong and decided to fake his death after he obtained DNA.

I really like this one ^_^
 

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He wouldn't lose on purpose because he has yet to win a fight against Hashirama.
 

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madara already shows us that a wood clone can be used so effectively that it's possible even in the heat of battle, it probably was after he ran out, as hashirama wouldn't have done it when he had EMS on, seeing he (madara) most likely has seen through it before.

It's possible that this was the first time Madara has seen through the Wood clone technique. We don't have anyway of proving whether it is or isn't though. ANother thing I want to mention that Hashi's sage mode goes away right before the timeskip. I think Hashi used the rest of his chakra for the wood clone to fight Madara for an extensive amount of time to the point where he could later sneak behind him and deliver the final blow.
 

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A very interesting idea, wish I'd thought of it :p
The way it's being argued for makes it appear extremely possible - I think Madara telling the Kages that he can see through Hashirama's wood clones is a blatant giveaway.
Also, Obito telling Konan of Madara's plans is good evidence as well.
All in all, a very well thought out argument. Still can't make my mind up about Madara :p
 

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the fight was for senju Dna. He still wanted to defeat hashirama but couldn't. we cannot stroll away from the truth.
 
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