Did Lionel Messi deserve the golden ball award?

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Re: messi did not deserve the golden ball its BS

He deserved it.He alone took Argentina to the Finals without much assist from fellow players.
He more than deserved U_U
 

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Re: messi did not deserve the golden ball its BS

Muller, Robben, Rodriguez, Lahm, Hummels, and Kroos all deserved it much more than Messi. FIFA's official site has Kroos, and Benzema as the top 2 players. So other than Blatter loving him the most, no he did not deserve it.
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messi is a dominant force who led his team to the world cup so yeah . Besides i think everyone puts way to much pressure on him they excpect him to scor like 5 points in every crucial game .
 

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Re: messi did not deserve the golden ball its BS

Why not? Sure James scored 6 goals and all but Messi is practically the only reason why Argentina went to the final
No he didn't, it was his team that took him to the finals
 

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Muller is so bad, he only dives and can't pass for shit.
 

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Messi scored 4 of the 8 goals and assisted one. Di Maria played like shit and couldn't shoot past people, he only hit people. My dad and I were counting how many of his shots hit people, and we lost count at 10 shots in 30 min. Higuain isn't that great either, he had the chance to make Argentina world champions, but he couldn't do it. If you've ever played football or are playing, you'd start to notice the differences between Ronaldo and the rest, and also Messi and the rest. Messi and Ronaldo are on a way other lever than other football players, but Messi was the one who shone the most this championship. So imo, Messi caried his team to the finals along with his defence. He was the whole offense of Arg, if you'd take him out, Arg couldn't do nothing, if you'd take Garay out, you'd still have Demichelis, Zabaleta, Mascherano and Rojo. Messi = boss.
 

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Re: messi did not deserve the golden ball its BS

Alright these threads are getting pathetic according to footballing governing board he is the best player in brazil 2014 and whether you like it or not he is!

The only thing you have been doing the past few weeks is being ridiculous and in complete denial. Argentina would win the world cup. After barely reaching the final, they got beaten after playing like an Italian team. Heck if you wouldn't know Argentina is located in South-America, you seriously would think it's a European team. They have the names for, the looks for it and the play like it. You also kept going on and on about how a European had never won on continental American soil, Germany still did it.

Also reality check the FIFA uses the Castrol Index to determine who are the best players. Do you know which place Messi is? 11th.

He wasn't the best player even according those same guys who chose him as the best player, stop living in these fake dreams of yours.

First and foremost the Golden Ball is supposed to be for the player who played the best during this tournament. Everything else is irrelevant, so how many prizes you won before and such are not supposed to matter. And did Messi preform individually that good? He played a decent tournament, but the best player? No and that's not just a subjective opinion. He scored 4 goals? Several players scored as much and several more. An assist? Many players gave more assists and there are even players who did both more than Messi. Neuer, a goalkeeper, gave more successful passes than Messi. Messi wasn't that actively present, while people like Robben and Müller kept on running for 120 minutest straight.

There isn't a shred of doubt, Messi was not the best player on this tournament as there are several others who simply preformed better than him. The only thing Messi has going for him is that there isn't any doubt either Argentina would have never come so far without him, but I find that a deplorable reasoning. If he now actually ran his ass off like Müller and Robben, if he was clearly present and a threat on the field, I could still accept it, but that was not even remotely the case. Germany - Argentina, barely present. They loose. The Netherlands - Argentina, Messi barely present, the won on penalties after 0 - 0. Belgium - Argentina, messi barely present, Argentina wins with 0 - 1 after a lucky goal. Switzerland - Argentina, Messi barely present, Argentina wins after nearly 120 minutes with 0 - 1 after Messi finally did something and they have the goddess of luck on their side with that last ball on the post. I said before Argentina looked like Italy, but after the final I would say the even looked like Greece. You could see during German attacks that the Argentinian defense and midfield was almost completely joined together in a line of 8 people.

So that Messi supposedly made Argentina reach the final isn't even correct, that was their hyper defensive play and luck. At best you could say Messi made them reach the quarter finals. So people like Müller and Robben, who scored goal after goal, gave assist after assist, created chance after chance, who kept on running no matter what are bypassed by a player who was for the largest part invisible, barely running, but does that one good thing that wins them a match.

That's disgusting. That prize is supposed to be for the best player, but I've already known for years that this prize is simply a convenient tool for the FIFA. In 2006 it was given to Zidane. I don't remember exactly how he played during the tournament and he was definitely an awesome player, however they had already decided even before the final they were going to give him the prize as he was going to stop after the tournament with fooball or being an international and what happens then? Zidane gets red after head butting another player, making him one of the few players who received two red cards on a WC. FIFA gives this price out for whatever reason. Do you know why Messi got it? Not just out of respect, more out of pity. Because he is one of the best players in the world, he won nearly everything except the WC, which is some kind of an unofficial requirement to really be counted among the great. But he failed again, so they just gave him that because they found it necessary. Mess should get something, so we have just given him that as we can't give him the golden boot nor the WC trophy.

Messi did overall great, but he didn't preform any better as many other players and even the guys who gave him that prize use statistics that clearly state that.
 
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Re: messi did not deserve the golden ball its BS

The only thing you have been doing the past few weeks is being ridiculous and in complete denial. Argentina would win the world cup. After barely reaching the final, they got beaten after playing like an Italian team. Heck if you wouldn't know Argentina is located in South-America, you seriously would think it's a European team. They have the names for, the looks for it and the play like it. You also kept going on and on about how a European had never won on continental American soil, Germany still did it.

Also reality check the FIFA uses the Castrol Index to determine who are the best players. Do you know which place Messi is? 11th.

He wasn't the best player even according those same guys who chose him as the best player, stop living in these fake dreams of yours.

First and foremost the Golden Ball is supposed to be for the player who played the best during this tournament. Everything else is irrelevant, so how many prizes you won before and such are not supposed to matter. And did Messi preform individually that good? He played a decent tournament, but the best player? No and that's not just a subjective opinion. He scored 4 goals? Several players scored as much and several more. An assist? Many players gave more assists and there are even players who did both more than Messi. Neuer, a goalkeeper, gave more successful passes Messi. Messi wasn't that actively present, while people like Robben and Müller kept on running for 120 minutest straight.

There isn't a shred of doubt, Messi was not the best player on this tournament as there are several others who simply preformed better than him. The only thing Messi has going for him is that there isn't any doubt either Argentina would have never come so far without him, but I find that a deplorable reasoning. If he now actually ran his ass off like Müller and Robben, if he was clearly present and a threat on the field, I could still accept it, but that was not even remotely the case. Germany - Argentina, barely present. They loose. The Netherlands - Argentina, Messi barely present, the won on penalties after 0 - 0. Belgium - Argentina, messi barely present, Argentina wins with 0 - 1 after a lucky goal. Switzerland - Argentina, Messi barely present, Argentina wins after nearly 120 minutes with 0 - 1 after Messi finally did something and they have the goddess of luck on their side with that last ball on the post. I said before Argentina looked like Italy, but after the final I would say the even looked like Greece. You could see during German attacks that the Argentinian defense and midfield was almost completely joined together in a line of 8 people.

So that Messi supposedly made Argentina reach the final isn't even correct, that was they hyper defensive play and luck. At best you could say Messi made them reach the quarter finals. So people like Müller and Robben, who scored goal after goal, gave assist after assist, created chance after chance, who kept on running no matter what are bypassed by a player who was for the largest part invisible, barely running, but does that one good thing that wins them a match.

That's disgusting. That prize is supposed to be for the best player, but I've already known for years that this prize is simply a convenient tool for the FIFA. In 2006 it was given to Zidane. I don't remember exactly how he played during the tournament and he was definitely an awesome player, however they had already decided even before the final they were going to give him the prize as he was going to stop after the tournament with fooball or being an international and what happens then? Zidane gets red after head butting another player, making him one of the few players who received two red cards on a WC. FIFA gives this price out for whatever reason. Do you know why Messi got it? Not just out of respect, more out of petty. Because he is one of the best players in the world, he won nearly everything except the WC, which is some kind of an unofficial requirement to really be counted among the great. But he failed again, so they just gave him that because they found it necessary.

Messi did overall great, but he didn't preform any better as many other players and even the guys who gave him that prize use statistics that clearly state that.

Well damn....this right here...
 

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Even Maradona said he didn't deserve it..

 

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4 goals and he led his team to the WC finals.....

Sure there were others who could have gotten it, but its not like this was a freebie.

Stop being butthurt about it. Get over it.
 

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He captained his team to the finals of the worldcup and scored 4 goals and 1 assist and created most goal scoring opportunities. So yes he deserves it. Meanwhile ronaldo is at home watching on the tv.

Delusional c@nt.

James Rodríguez, Robben, Müller and even Mascherano were far more deserving of the award.
 

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Delusional c@nt.

James Rodríguez, Robben, Müller and even Mascherano were far more deserving of the award.

Rodriguez had already received an award, while Robben and Mascherano were lower on statistics when compared to Messi - that is only, if we look at the assists and goals. Messi wasn't also present during all these times, while Robben was playing matches straight 120min., and he still couldn't achieve all the things Messi did. The only ones who achieved far more and some even much earlier than Messi, were Neymar and Müller.

Even though I dislike Messi, and believe he didn't deserve it (even Maradona admitted that), he was easily one of the best players in the tournament, but not the best player. Müller deserved it more than Messi.​
 

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What? Do you watch football regularly mate? It really isn't relevant whether or not James already won an award. His performances for his country certainly outweighed Messi's throughout the tournament. The latter was anonymous in most games save a few brief spells against the likes of Nigeria and Iran for crying out loud. Statistics? Mascherano isn't a forward player, what are you expecting to compare between the two? If you look at the tournament as a whole, Mascherano put in the more impressive performances for Argentina, particularly in the knockout stages. They pretty much only navigated through the knockouts because of some strong defensive performances from the likes of Javier.

Same with Robben, who didn't go missing for 80 odd minutes like that little fella.

No-one said anything about Messi not being one of the best. It's just obvious that those four players were more deserving of the award.
 

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Yes, he did. He was basically carrying his team man. The only person on Argentina who is capable of scoring goals is Messi.
 

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Nup he didn't, it is as clear as day.
 

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Even Blatter is surprised by this decision:-
 
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Argentina Considered messi One man Team you can Messi was only fighting Germany He really did deserve this Award
 

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What? Do you watch football regularly mate? It really isn't relevant whether or not James already won an award. His performances for his country certainly outweighed Messi's throughout the tournament. The latter was anonymous in most games save a few brief spells against the likes of Nigeria and Iran for crying out loud. Statistics? Mascherano isn't a forward player, what are you expecting to compare between the two? If you look at the tournament as a whole, Mascherano put in the more impressive performances for Argentina, particularly in the knockout stages. They pretty much only navigated through the knockouts because of some strong defensive performances from the likes of Javier.

Same with Robben, who didn't go missing for 80 odd minutes like that little fella.

No-one said anything about Messi not being one of the best. It's just obvious that those four players were more deserving of the award.

M8, do you know what you're on about? Firstly, you were the one to compare a forward striker to a defensive midfield player. Secondly, Messi was present in all games except in Nigeria, where he scored not just once, but twice. 80 minutes, wut? You now say because of the game with Germany that Mascherano deserved a Golden Ball. What? That's the logic of a child who decides to watch a grand football game, and dump the sport the next day. What about Gary Medel, who managed to play extremely efficiently in all plays for Chile despite playing only 3 games?

So what if Robben played more? Being the best player isn't about the amount of effort you make, it's the things you do in the pitch and change the play to your advantage. What if Robben was running around the pitch like it was a race? Effort, but completely irrelevant to the play. Messi played, and he affected the play, and significantly more than Robben did. Not to mention Robben was the link to Robin van Persie and still had only one assist, while Messi was a striker and had one as well. Better player? Not only by subjective opinion, but also statistically Messi was better than Robben.

Anonymous in game against Iran? Where was Mascherano? Even Marco Rojo defended much better than Mascherano who let some of the attackers slip past him. Messi also wasn't assisted at all when he scored the goal. If you really believe football is about 5 goal difference, you're completely wrong.

It's not obvious at all, Robben didn't deserve the trophy at all nor did Mascherano. I can agree with you on Rodríguez and Müller, but the rest weren't better than Messi at all. Stop the h8, and learn to respect the game.
 

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4 goals and he led his team to the WC finals.....

Sure there were others who could have gotten it, but its not like this was a freebie.

Stop being butthurt about it. Get over it.
It isn't about getting butthurt, but it is about discussing the criteria at which this award is given.
Messi's accomplishment in this world cup clearly isn't good enough as compared to players like Muller and Rodriguez who scored more number of goals than him and also made a bigger impact.
Yes, he did. He was basically carrying his team man. The only person on Argentina who is capable of scoring goals is Messi.
For that I can call him best of Argentina, but not best player of the tournament, it is clearly injustice to other players.
 

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Yes, he did. He was basically carrying his team man. The only person on Argentina who is capable of scoring goals is Messi.

In argentina Mascherano was far better than Messi, he worked his arse of for them, whole defense department was better than him, he only scored in the group stages, that speaks volumes, golden ball is for the best player of the tournament which he clearly not and by your logic, Muller, James Rodriguez and Robben both carried their team and were better, they deserved it more.
For me Muller was the deserving candidate.
 
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