Did kishi made a mistake??

Lorik Uzumaki

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Itachi is stronger then orochimaru.
And orochimaru is stronger then jiraiya...
But itachi said in a chapter that if he would fight with
Kisame against jiraiya everyone of them would die!
Doesnt that mean that juiaiya is strnger then oro
When he would win against itachi ??
 

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I think Itachi lied to Kisame, he wanted to remind Danzo he was alive. He had no intention of capturing Naruto and he needed to make Kisame believe there was a legitimate reason for them leaving the jinchuuriki.
 

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Orochimaru stronger than Jiraiya? I don't think so. I think Jiraiya could have a chance to defeat Nagato if Nagato had started with all the six bodies. Jiraiya is quite stronger than Orochimaru, in my opinion. But Orochimaru has quite a few bizarre techniques which make him hard to kill.
 

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It doesn'twork like that.

It's like rock, paper,scissors.

Itachi (scissors) > Oro (Paper) > Jman (Rock).
So going with your logic Itachi (scissors) must also > Jman (Rock).
 

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They don't have power levels such as "SSJ Goku > Freiza > Piccolo"

They have different sets of techs that are better or worse against each other.
 

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um no...to everything. Orochimaru could actually beat Itachi in a serious non-plot-no-jutsu fight to the death. Orochimaru is easily stronger than jiraiya, and even has a chance if jiraiya is starting in sage mode. and of course orochimaru is stronger than kisame. that's common sense
 

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Naruto isn't about character A> character B logic
 

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A>B>C doesn't work in this manga. It's all about match ups. Just look: Kisame beats Killer-Bee, but lost to Gai. So Gai>Kisame>Bee?
 

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Its like rock papers scissors dude.It depends on certain skill and techiques of both the opponents.For example usually long range ninjas are stronger than short range ningas,but this doesnt mean all short range ninjas are weaker,their just at an disadvantage.Oro just fell for itachis genjutsu so oro just withdrawed.Genjutsu is oros weakness.
 

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Its like rock papers scissors dude.It depends on certain skill and techiques of both the opponents.For example usually long range ninjas are stronger than short range ningas,but this doesnt mean all short range ninjas are weaker,their just at an disadvantage.Oro just fell for itachis genjutsu so oro just withdrawed.Genjutsu is oros weakness.

genjutsu is not oro's weakness. where'd you get that from? he was still able to move in itachi's tsukiyomi, and would have regrown his hand if he had the tech back then..he was just overly excited about seeing the sharingan in use up close. if it were now, he'd beat itachi...period.

there is no rock paper scissors in naruto except for the case of the sannin. and even then, orochimaru outclasses jiraiya and tsunade
 

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genjutsu is not oro's weakness. where'd you get that from? he was still able to move in itachi's tsukiyomi, and would have regrown his hand if he had the tech back then..he was just overly excited about seeing the sharingan in use up close. if it were now, he'd beat itachi...period.

there is no rock paper scissors in naruto except for the case of the sannin. and even then, orochimaru outclasses jiraiya and tsunade

I think i made a mistake,Oro's isnt weakened by ordinary genjutsu,but the sharingan's genjtsu is no ordinary genjutsu.Its extremely powerful! So is logical to think that oro was effected by it.And another thing is that oro was never under the tsukiyomi,you just exagerated that point.It was just a regular sharingan genjutsu,while oro made the attempt to take itachis body.Oro had to withdraw cuz itachi cut his hand so he could not use any ninjutsu.His hand didnt regrow,like you said it would have!
 

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Yea,it's abt skillset,i also think oro would have a good chance against itachi if he could use his jutsus,also he wanted to take itachi's body not kill him,iirc he held itachi with snakes right?,if he wanted to kill hi,,the snakes would have bitten him not entangled him,and itachi managed to hit oro with that genjutsu because as you can see in his match with sasuke,he faces the person to take over the body,which is how itachi stopped the process just like sasuke did.

The other time he was hit with a blade of totsuka,which he didnt know,or else he would have dodges it,also he just came out of sasuke's body,he was basically dying when sasuke took his body,the fact that he used his hydra tech is outstanding,itachi got the better of oro through surprise,which any ninja can beat anyother ninja regardless of power,just like sasori and the 3rd kazekage.
 
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