lol thanks, and yes it certainly should be the truth, most of what I said more or less was said from the very man himself. Honestly even till this very day it makes me wonder if those interviews were like a low key apology to his fans cause just about everything he said were literally what conspired to the flaws, especially that interview when he mentioned he had no idea how to kill off madara
I would not be surprised if that entire laughable kaguya arc was made just to finish him off with a back stab zetsu.
Yeah I agree. I thought it was odd how in part 1, naruto drastically increased from scrub to skill with jiraiya by learning basically 2 sannin-kage lvl abilities that were used by a sannin/kage and had basic skill in using kyuubi chakra in such little time, but in shippuden he barely changed at all after 2yrs of intense training. maybe it was to make hebi sasuke look better, cause let's face it. kishi flawed "style" will hinder anyone's potential for plot (example: amat nerf). so logically, hebi and
early TS naruto (w/o sagemode) should've been around the same lvl as hebi if went by the logical route instead of kishi's plot.
Nonetheless, I don't bother criticizing and nitpick too much about pre-war arcs. cause at the end of the day I still loved all those arcs and there was a point (war arc) when I was just disgusted with kishi, went from probably the biggest narutard to the biggest hater. not just because the arc itself but because I was angry that kishi could do better than this. but after the manga ended, thinking about those interviews again, i eventually realized that he really is just a mediocre writer and those arcs we all loved or not liked etc. they were
alot better than it should had been under this guy. we the readers were fortunate and we should cherrish those arcs cause it could've easily (and I do indeed mean easily) been worst. or maybe kishi really is a good writer and his family time, deadlines, editors is what screwed him over. cause let's face it. togashi only got the chances to take long hiatus(s) cause he's married to rich ass mangaka. meanwhile kishi had to make a living off his only successful manga forcing him to continue non stop which lead us to the inevitable and unvoidable war arc. lol who knows...
A similar thing happened with Toriyama and Dragon Ball. Mainly Z, during the Frieza and Android/Cell sagas. It was Toriyama's editor who came up with a lot of the ideas and story directions for DBZ, while Toriyama kept trying to kill Goku off, so he could end the manga.
Things like, Goku "dying" on Namek but not really, because TPTB reversed Toriyama's decision. Goku was supposed to die the "strongest in the universe".
Gohan being SSJ and the creation of SSJ2, was Toriyama's editor's idea. Tori wanted to end the Cell Games with Gohan getting super pissed in base form and blowing Cell away.
The various android models. Tori's original idea for the androids that destroyed the future were #20 and #19. An old man and a fat albino. #16-18 and Cell all came from the editors.
Plot device Room of Spirit and Time/Hyberbolic Time Chamber to accelerate the Z fighter's skills and power levels.
Goku dying "for good" against Cell and Vegeta quitting fighting forever. While Gohan and Trunks become the new defenders of Earth.
And a whole bunch of other shit. Tori dumped his editors in exchange for coming back to do the Buu Saga. Which, if you're familar with, was a cluster****.
Gohan going to HS. Gohan being a superhero. Gohan being hyped up to be the hero, but supplanted at the last minute.
Bringing back the Budokai and then dropping it.
Goten being created to replace Goku, but Tori brought Goku back later and removed Goten's purpose for existing. If you watch DB Super, you'll notice Goten is pretty much MIA.
The original plan for the Buu Saga was to have a fused 8 year old boy with long blonde hair and no eyebrows (what became SSJ3), fight a fat, pink, bubble gum monster, wearing a white diaper, purple cape, yellow rain boots and has a phallic appendage on his head that turns people into candy.
The other forms of Buu were added later to add menace to the threat, and like Kishi with the war arc, Tori didn't know how to end his story. Dumping Goten, Trunks and Gohan and bringing Goku back to be the hero again.
Toriyama lost the point entirely. In a recent interview for Super, Toriyama said he didn't even remember what DBZ was about.
