Did Hinata even surpass Neji?

[KCMNaruto]

Did neji simply say she was gettin better or did he add that she was getin close to him? , i dont remember ever seein that scan an even so its understandable that he would motivate her spirits in that way since he was her teacher, this is a very important statment get me the manga page nd ill rest my case.

Hmm... actually I can not find it, however I was sure that I read it somewhere, *shrugs* seems like it was filler.

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^^ Hiashi and Hizashi accepted Main family and branch protecting each other, which shows being on close level at least.

The scan I posted imply that Hinata was able to react to something which Neji couldn't or would have trouble with.

Fact of the matter is neji has shown much better reaction feats in the SRA, also he was able to keep up with KN0's speed an even blast it away with a not so perfect kaiten , i wouldnt call that overwhemin since neji ended the mode nor does it matter since SRA neji showed better feats that the databook supports, u hav yet to answer my question if hinata could react to all those traps an point blank daggers/spiders/webs that were already in his face.O

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^^ I know that Neji part 1 was fast, but he is not that fast as you claim he to be. KNO Naruto outspeed him so Neji could only put up rotation in time.

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^^ Neji unable to hit KNO Naruto, once again.

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^^ Neji is overhelmed by Naruto's speed, his body can not follow his eyes ability to read movements.

Well Neji was doing well agianst Kidomaru, avoiding each dagger, but I wouldn't overstimate it:

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Hinata was able to keep up with Neji while protecting each other - manga fact
Hinata could reflect wooden spike while Sakura was moved by Kakashi to dodge

, also its important to note that the byakugan is not known to beable to keep up with high speed attacks/people since hinata with her byakugan failed to realise that neji was shuttin down her tenketsu from the very start of their match , its up to the users own skill/reaction/visual awareness nd prowes in taijutsu to do so.

WRONG, the Byakugan can keep up with high speed, of course skill is important however Byakugan itself has potential to track high-speed movement.

Hinata failed only due to her physical speed being infferior + her physical/body reaction time was not enough.
Same case as Lee was able to beat 2T Sasuke before Sasuke's body got used to higher speed.

Where is ur proof that juubi arc hinata is faster? , i remember the databook putin SRA Neji higher than p2 hinata an feats even support this but ill rest my case if u can prove this since am not too familiar with the databooks.:-\

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Hinata while being still inferior to part 2 Neji, she was able to deflect one wooden spike while Sakura couldn't.

Also the last right bottom scan shows Hinata and Base Naruto were able react to incomming Juubi's hand attack, but it was Hiashi who had way to deflect it.

Yes , air palm is a problem but neji in theory can defend usin his chakra which would also stop the extra environmental damage from the push , he could also anticipate it beforehand with his byakugan an simply expell chakra to slow hinata's chakra an evade as he did all those traps/daggers of kido, then he can easily close distance.

good theory, but with no proof at all. Air palm is one of reasons why Hyuuga part 2 are > Hyuuga part 1.

Hinata wont fight by constanly air palmin neji when he advances since she would hav to get in close for the killin blows which by feats an hype neji would win.

No need for that, even then Air palm wall is more then enough which send him blasted backwards.

What is the juubi minion gonna do to neji that it coulnt do to hinata?, kaiten sends it flyin followed by full 64 palms gg , i never noticed any speed feats from it , those daggers movin at such velocity an from all sides are clearly faster than the jubblings attacks

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^^ 64 palms were not enough as Juubi's minion was still breathing and was fine.

Neji doesn't have lion fists which according to Databook IV were reasons how Hinata could finish Juubi's minion.

, it literally cant touch neji an has no skill/brains at all dwl , not only that but he can block all its attacks with chakra an easily knock it off balance , their is no way in hell a single juubling is stompin SRA neji much less neji plus kidomaru together @_@ lol, i cant believe u said that囧
where is this comin from ?.if its the databook plz show me why u think a juubling could solo SRA Neji easier than hinataO

Ill rest my case if u can provide proof for this since im not totally against hinata winnin.

not important and doesn't matter Juubi's minion intelligence.

re-read Hinata attacking Juubi's minion. It was 64 palms + LION FISTS which were used to finish juubilings Hinata faced.

Kk bro, im waiting to see how u can counter this.:-D

sorry for having to wair that long, but finally it is
done.

 

[Kirin The Dragon Sage]

Lol no butthurt here kid , i just had to eradicate the horseshit coming from out ur mouth , or in this case ur rear Lol.

Chunin prelims neji was already closing tenketsu while juubi arc hinata struggled to perform 64 palms , a technique neji mastered by himself as a genin while chunin hinata with years of teachings from neji himself failed , if that doesn't tell u who the true fodder is then u urself are fodder , nuff said even hiruzen agrees that neji is the true genius of the hyuga an praised him , who has hinata received praise from? , hiashi? ohh wait he disowned her in canon Lol .

Nuff said.

hinata can easily do that or more as she want by hype.. this kishi manga btw

 

[Made in Heaven]

Let her be the incarnation of Kaguya herself. Without feats, she's still a damn cow fodder she always was.

Still makes my argument of Prime Hinata [AKA Hamura] owning all those opponents listed as being valid Lol

Hinata does have feats, It's just a shame you choose to ignore them, much like every other aspect of her character that you bash blindly .

 

[Zee U]

Part 2 Neji? Maybe in another life.

 

[RedRobin]

Like I said before, Hinata already has a powerful ability like the Byakugan and she does nothing special with it, give her an even more special power then she still doesnt do anything with it. This Hamura chakra means nothing as Hinata is not good at combat and wont use it to its potential.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Like I said before, Hinata already has a powerful ability like the Byakugan and she does nothing special with it, give her an even more special power then she still doesnt do anything with it. This Hamura chakra means nothing as Hinata is not good at combat and wont use it to its potential.

Try typing something up that comes from canon sources next time rather than your ass, okay?

 

[RedRobin]

Try typing something up that comes from canon sources next time rather than your ass, okay?

Dont get so damn butthurt over the truth. Hinata is not a good ninja, get over it.

 

[shelke]

Still makes my argument of Prime Hinata [AKA Hamura] owning all those opponents listed as being valid Lol

Hinata does have feats, It's just a shame you choose to ignore them, much like every other aspect of her character that you bash blindly .

Yeah, those feats you kept going on and on and on about in that infamous 'personality' thread? It's funny, because before this speculation business about her having Hamura's chakra didn't come out, you admitted that Hinata was a poorly written character and had little potential.

Looks like you are back to your old ways. I don't bash anyone, I just dislike poorly written characters. All of my so-called bashing is done with back-up. Can't say the same about you. I mean, didn't you say that her being a mother was some kind of character defining feat?

 

[Made in Heaven]

Dont get so damn butthurt over the truth. Hinata is not a good ninja, get over it.

No, really, stop speaking out of your ass.

You say she does nothing special with her Byakugan, and yet it surpasses Neji's by leaps and bounds, She's used it to direct Ino's mind Transfer to Obito, She's used it to fix Naruto's shoulder, and She's used it to scout for her team on missions.

You say that even with Hamura's chakra she does nothing special, and yet she combines it with her most complicated jutsu, refills KCM Naruto's chakra, flys using said chakra, and destroys the Tenseigan alter.

Try harder.

 

[RedRobin]

No, really, stop speaking out of your ass.

You say she does nothing special with her Byakugan, and yet it surpasses Neji's by leaps and bounds, She's used it to direct Ino's mind Transfer to Obito, She's used it to fix Naruto's shoulder, and She's used it to scout for her team on missions.

You say that even with Hamura's chakra she does nothing special, and yet she combines it with her most complicated jutsu, refills KCM Naruto's chakra, flys using said chakra, and destroys the Tenseigan alter.

Try harder.

You are being mistaken, she obviously did good things with her byakugan like you listed but she never reached Neji's potential with it. If she doesnt have much potential with the Byakugan then all these things you state about her having Hamura's chakra sound off.

She surpassed Neji's byakugan in distance.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Yeah, those feats you kept going on and on and on about in that infamous 'personality' thread? It's funny, because before this speculation business about her having Hamura's chakra didn't come out, you admitted that Hinata was a poorly written character and had little potential.

Looks like you are back to your old ways. I don't bash anyone, I just dislike poorly written characters. All of my so-called bashing is done with back-up. Can't say the same about you. I mean, didn't you say that her being a mother was some kind of character defining feat?

Yep, those and a few others. I know Hinata doesn't have much battle feats, but from what she has shown, it's not too hard to come to realistic conclusions.

Actually, I still think Hinata is a god-awful character for the most part, and I do acknowledge that characters like Lee, Kisame, Sasuke, Madara and Orochimaru are better written than she is.

Regardless of that, I stand my ground in saying she had a lot of potential given her background and lineage to be a great character, but that never happened. Well, In the manga anyways. I find that the anime did a much much better job at developing Hinata's character and using her background and lineage to a greater potential than what Kishimoto did, so much so that if I were to rate Manga Hinata as a character, I'd give her a 3.5/10, but if I were to rate Anime Hinata, I'd give her a 7.5/10.

No, not really. You claimed many several nonsensical things, such as saying Hinata is a failure as a Ninja [despite being low Jonin], hasn't improved in any ways [despite all the new jutsus she learned and improvements she made to he rByakugan], or that she has no motivation [despite this being the core theme of her fight with Neji]... and none of these were or are true.

And no, Hinata being a Mother was not something I claimed as being a character defining feat, as I only brought that up to you claiming she went no where in life.

You are being mistaken, she obviously did good things with her byakugan like you listed but she never reached Neji's potential with it. If she doesnt have much potential with the Byakugan then all these things you state about her having Hamura's chakra sound off.

She surpassed Neji's byakugan in distance.

No, she did, Databook has said their Byakugans are equal. Manga also supports Hinata's Byakugan as being the superior one.

Is there something else you were expecting her to surpass him in in terms of the Byakugan? Eye sight is all it offers for the most part, so what other field would she need to surpass Neji in?

Again, Data book has said their Byakugans are equal, but the manga shows Hinata's is superior. Either way, I'm right.

 

[shelke]

No, she did, Databook has said their Byakugans are equal. Manga also supports Hinata's Byakugan as being the superior one.

Is there something else you were expecting her to surpass him in in terms of the Byakugan? Eye sight is all it offers for the most part, so what other field would she need to surpass Neji in?

Again, Data book has said their Byakugans are equal, but the manga shows Hinata's is superior. Either way, I'm right.

Why are we discussing the Byakugan here, when I was talking about her skill or lack there of? Those are nonsensical to you, I actually had retorts for ever single one. Also, stating that motherhood is going somewhere in life would mean a character defining feat.

@ Bold - Keep telling yourself that. We both know you aren't.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Why are we discussing the Byakugan here, when I was talking about her skill or lack there of? Those are nonsensical to you, I actually had retorts for ever single one. Also, stating that motherhood is going somewhere in life would mean a character defining feat.

@ Bold - Keep telling yourself that. We both know you aren't.

That whole section you quoted was for PawsX not you.

So then do tell, what does "going somewhere in life" mean to you?

Hinata has a radius of 10KM, Neji's is 800M. Hinata's Byakugan is hence superior.

 

[shelke]

That whole section you quoted was for PawsX not you.

So then do tell, what does "going somewhere in life" mean to you?

Hinata has a radius of 10KM, Neji's is 800M. Hinata's Byakugan is hence superior.

We had lengthy discussions on that. I am not repeating anything again.

 

[Made in Heaven]

We had lengthy discussions on that. I am not repeating anything again.

Even in the other thread, you didn't reply to my post that was countering your rebuttal.

 

[shelke]

Even in the other thread, you didn't reply to my post that was countering your rebuttal.

Which one? Given that all of your character points were mostly fiction.

 

[FunkyFatal]

Everyone here seems to be bashing Hinata's skills for some reason. I agree that in part 1 neji was stronger than hinata, however her hard work allowed her to surpass neji in a way. Her moveset out matches neji's basic hyuuga moveset. Hinata's twin lion fist will destroy neji most likely. All neji has is the speed advantage maybe and that's all. I agree with Lady Byakugan's posts because they give profound evidence to how powerful Hinata is. I read posts about neji being able to do rotation while hinata can't. However, in part 1 Hinata was able to create her own form of rotation that surpassed the basic palm rotation that neji uses, since nothing can penetrate it due to Hinata being able to shape her chakra into thin, sharp, flexible blades while targeting everything around her with extreme precision in a rotating like motion. The move is called Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms and is definitely superior to neji's basic palm rotation. Not only that she is the strongest kunoichi out of the konoha 11 in my opinion. Hinata would destroy Sakura, Ino, TenTen, and anyone else lol. To many people underestimate Hinata and I don't like it lol.

*I'm not bashing anyone else's opinions at all, so in turn don't bash my opinion about Hinata because its just my opinion on the matter that's all.

Hinata SOLOS ^_^

End of Discussion. (Don't expect a reply)

 

[Made in Heaven]

Which one? Given that all of your character points were mostly fiction.

nvm, I just checked, you did reply.

Anyways, I've already admitted I view Hinata as being a pretty bad character. But even so, she deserves the credit when it's due. Even if it may not be much.

 

[neosmith500]

Everyone here seems to be bashing Hinata's skills for some reason. I agree that in part 1 neji was stronger than hinata, however her hard work allowed her to surpass neji in a way. Her moveset out matches neji's basic hyuuga moveset. Hinata's twin lion fist will destroy neji most likely. All neji has is the speed advantage maybe and that's all.

*I'm not bashing anyone else's opinions at all, so in turn don't bash my opinion about Hinata because its just my opinion on the matter that's all.

Hinata SOLOS ^_^

End of Discussion. (Don't expect a reply)

Jus to add somthing , twin lions gets parried by kaiten an hinata gets sent crashin on her ass , neji then intercepts nd kills her.O

 

[Aikor]

No, really, stop speaking out of your ass.

You say she does nothing special with her Byakugan, and yet it surpasses Neji's by leaps and bounds, She's used it to direct Ino's mind Transfer to Obito, She's used it to fix Naruto's shoulder, and She's used it to scout for her team on missions.

You say that even with Hamura's chakra she does nothing special, and yet she combines it with her most complicated jutsu, refills KCM Naruto's chakra, flys using said chakra, and destroys the Tenseigan alter.

Try harder.

Neji is still more skilled than Hinata..because neji learned every technique of the mainbranch ON HIS OWN being ten ten acting as a target for his techniques..while hinata and hanabi are training under hiashi..Meaning Neji is more skilled than hinata since childhood..even hiashi admitted tht he a branch member is gona surpass the main branch..he learned the rotation technique which even hinata..who is a member of the main branch and the branch who developed tht technique couldnt master..so its pretty obvious