Did Edo Hashirama really defeat Edo Madara?

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I don't think Madara was holding back, but he obviously wasn't serious.
When he was revived was when Madara got serious. He owned hashirama, Tobirama, naruto, Sasuke, and the bijuu + a couple of fodder.

II'm a Madara fan, but hashi won this with extreme diff just like VoTE. People could say it was a stalemate but it's Canon that the black rods would've wore off anyway.
 

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Ah that Madara fapping is so strong in this thread. "Madara didn't want to go all out" "Madara held back".


Yes Madara held back on Hashirama, the guy he detests the most.. Nice logic Madara fanboys.. showing how much you know about your character that you like. Madara let himself get beat by Hashirama.... Holy shit the logic is bad here..


People need the common sense to realize that even though Hashirama was s tabbed with the rods, Madara did not have the power left to restrain him. With black rods, you have to overwhelm your opponent's chakra.. something Madara could not do even when they were fighting.

It took a fully revived Madara, to restrain a hardly any chakra left Hashirama.


REASON why Madara wasn't worried, was because of black Zetsu.

I don't think Madara was holding back, but he obviously wasn't serious.
When he was revived was when Madara got serious. He owned hashirama, Tobirama, naruto, Sasuke, and the bijuu + a couple of fodder.

II'm a Madara fan, but hashi won this with extreme diff just like VoTE. People could say it was a stalemate but it's Canon that the black rods would've wore off anyway.
Hashirama held back until the moment Madara said that Hashirama's death didn't really even matter (hence why the flashbacks were shown) that their dream was irrelevant, that what they worked was irrelevant. << Signing that Madara had fallen to low.. and then casually beat Madara..
 
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Madara paralysed Hashirama and left him without Chakra. Therefore, he won.
 

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Did hashirama win? Yes. Would he win against a chou shinra tensei, chibaku tensei,meteor tech? Hell no.

Madara has a habit of "going easy" on his opponents.and that's what makes him a terrible villain

Jafar from Aladdin was way more intimidating
 

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Did hashirama win? Yes. Would he win against a chou shinra tensei, chibaku tensei,meteor tech? Hell no.

Madara has a habit of "going easy" on his opponents.and that's what makes him a terrible villain

Jafar from Aladdin was way more intimidating

Did Hashirama use the buddha? Did he use the gollem? did he use the normal mountain sized hands? Did he use the wood clones in that fight? did he use bringer of darkness? We can go on and on about what they didn't use, because we weren't shown it.

Matter of the fact = Madara HATES Hashirama.

Why would Madara let Hashirama whip on him? and also, PS> Chibaku tensei/shinra tensei and etc. PS = Madara's strongest technique.. rofl. The mere fact he was using that already shows he was going all out.

"Madara has a habit of going easy"..any proof of this against Hashirama? or going easy against some shinobi who had no chance against him?
 

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Did Hashirama use the buddha? Did he use the gollem? did he use the normal mountain sized hands? Did he use the wood clones in that fight? did he use bringer of darkness? We can go on and on about what they didn't use, because we weren't shown it.

Matter of the fact = Madara HATES Hashirama.

Why would Madara let Hashirama whip on him? and also, PS> Chibaku tensei/shinra tensei and etc. PS = Madara's strongest technique.. rofl. The mere fact he was using that already shows he was going all out.

"Madara has a habit of going easy"..any proof of this against Hashirama? or going easy against some shinobi who had no chance against him?

You can get butthurt all you want. CT >hashirama
 

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You can act stupid all you want but PS>>> Chibaku tensei.

There two completely different jutsu.it's not like were comparing basic rasengan to FRS. both have different uses and advantages over the other
 

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There two completely different jutsu.it's not like were comparing basic rasengan to FRS. both have different uses and advantages over the other

Yet 1 slash of PS destroys Chibaku tensei.. o_O, your post is irrelevant due to the fact both techniques focus on destruction. There is no advantage that chibaku tensei has over Madara's PS.. nothing.

And FRS> Rasengan..
 

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Yet 1 slash of PS destroys Chibaku tensei.. o_O, your post is irrelevant due to the fact both techniques focus on destruction. There is no advantage that chibaku tensei has over Madara's PS.. nothing.

And FRS> Rasengan..

Hashi can't break the core.he's not smart enough to try in the first place

Being sucked up and crushed by millions of tons of rock kills him.
 

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you can't really blame people for saying that madara was playing around or held back.

madara made it seem like he was only fighting hashirama enough to hold him back from fighting against juubito. even when he was immobilized, he didn't show a sign of being worried or tired. and it seemed like madara didn't even have a fighting spirit in him until he got revived.

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madara could've used iznagi to get out of the wood dragons if it ever were that serious.
 
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There two completely different jutsu.it's not like were comparing basic rasengan to FRS. both have different uses and advantages over the other

i know what you mean. hashi easily has a counter for madara's strongest tech PS, but whats his counter to CT? is he gonna have SS hug it lol
 

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you can't really blame people for saying that madara was playing around or held back.

madara made it seem like he was only fighting hashirama enough to hold him back from fighting against juubito. even when he was immobilized, he didn't show a sign of being worried or tired. and it seemed like madara didn't even have a fighting spirit in him until he got revived.

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madara could've used iznagi to get out of the wood dragons if it ever were that serious.
He also made it seem like if Tobirama and Hashirama were alive they would've ****ed him up...... o_O

Hashi can't break the core.he's not smart enough to try in the first place

Being sucked up and crushed by millions of tons of rock kills him.

@Bold, you sir cannot be taken seriously after that dumb post you just made. If you do not know about the characters please go learn and then post. Yea clearly the guy who was leading the Hokage against the juubi is not smart enough. #idiocy

Jukai Kouton = easy counter to chibaku tensei. Again, PS = Madara's strongest technique. Using your strongest = going all out or trying to finish it quick... so your pick either way.

On top of that Madara has too much self-pride, he is not a loser who lets people **** him up on prupose.. ESPECIALLY hashirama senju.
 
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Did they do that during their era? Nope.​

^^^ Madara specifically stated it was a coincidence that the brothers could not bring out their true power..... and that this time he has the upper hand now. o_O. So yea.

Surely you aren't the idiot who decides to disagree with Kishimoto's own words in the databook, when he states Hashirama was an unparalleled shinobi of his time. Yes even VOTE Madara wasn't on his level.....

Hashirama proved he beat Madara.. stop *****ing and moaning about it. Madara became the stronger one in the end.. you never see a Hashirama fan complain about that. Because that is what it is in the manga.
 

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^^^ Madara specifically stated it was a coincidence that the brothers could not bring out their true power..... and that this time he has the upper hand now. o_O. So yea.

Surely you aren't the idiot who decides to disagree with Kishimoto's own words in the databook, when he states Hashirama was an unparalleled shinobi of his time.

So, I guess Madara lied to Hashirama that he was the only one (Not Tobirama) who can fight on par against him: [ ]?​
 

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He also made it seem like if Tobirama and Hashirama were alive they would've ****ed him up...... o_O



@Bold, you sir cannot be taken seriously after that dumb post you just made. If you do not know about the characters please go learn and then post. Yea clearly the guy who was leading the Hokage against the juubi is not smart enough. #idiocy

Jukai Kouton = easy counter to chibaku tensei. Again, PS = Madara's strongest technique. Using your strongest = going all out or trying to finish it quick... so your pick either way.

On top of that Madara has too much self-pride, he is not a loser who lets people **** him up on prupose.. ESPECIALLY hashirama senju.


I didn't say he wasn't smart. I said he wasn't smart enough to figure CTs weakness out.

It's funny how quickly you jump to defend him.your riding him so hard you can't understand the context of other people's posts
 

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Hashi can't break the core.he's not smart enough to try in the first place

Being sucked up and crushed by millions of tons of rock kills him.

Lol at hashi not being smart enough. He's goofy but not stupid. You've been getting owned this entire debate it's hilarious
 

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Hashirama won. Madara couldn't move while hashi could. Whether hashirama was worn out or not doesn't matter

You're being ignorant if you believe Madara with senju chakra enhancements and rinnegan could lose to Hashirama.
 

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No. Madara was just screwing around with little Hashi.
 
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