[VS] Deva vs Jiraiya

[Apêx1]

Location: Konoha crater
Intel: Full
Restrictions: CT
Intent: To kill

 

[Haizaki]

Jiraiya wins.

 

[Apêx1]

Jiraiya wins.

How does he win?

 

[Kamui Sama]

Jiraiya could potentially exploit the 5 second interval and end it with a food-cart destroyer blitz if he survives the initial ST

 

[Inert Brian]

I think it's rather obvious Jiraiya wins, considering:

3t Kakashi nearly beat Deva and Preta with the Akimichi family.

Jiraiya fought all 6 pains off screen, and still achieved killing Animal path.

But Jiraiya wins by summoning, and forcing Pain in to using ST (he casually dodged Gamabunta because the other path could see Gamabunta's movements). Deva is restricted to one set of eyes.

Pain may have to commit larger than normal STs to fight at least one frog. Which results in longer cooldown, which makes deva easy.

If Pain tries to use BT + Rod combo, then Jiraiya uses his hair ninjutsu to not only block out the rod, but to stab deva with his spiky hair.

Jman med diffs.

 

[Raykyryn]

I don't think Jiraiya is smart enough to set up a good strategy to exploit the 5 sec interval. Deva takes it mid/high diff.

 

[Inert Brian]

I don't think Jiraiya is smart enough to set up a good strategy to exploit the 5 sec interval. Deva takes it mid/high diff.

>Says he lacks IQ

>Is the best spy there is, and was notorious for infiltration jutsu.

 

[Haizaki]

How does he win?

If Pain decides to use Bansho tenin which I think would be what would be a problem, He can use Needle Jizo given the fact that Kakashi could physically move and throw a chain while Pain was using this

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. That way Pain won't recklessly draw him near.

Shinra Tensei would be quite a drag but if Pain decides to use that, Jiraiya can focus chakra on his feet

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unless Pain decides to use it on a very large scale which I think would be unlikely.

Summonings as well could effectively counter his Shinra Tensei similar to how Naruto did in terms of the interval

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Just that it would be more than Jiraiya attacking this time especially with his clones added. That way he'll be left vulnerable within 5 seconds and unable to do anything especially when their attack is timed properly and used one straightaway after the other.

 

[Haizaki]

Actually the rods can pierces through Needle Jizo so I think what Itachi said would come into play

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(Middle panel) He can use Dragon fire when Pain resorts to this.

 

[wael reda]

As I remember ,when sm naruto fought pain ,the moment deva path's abilities came back ,he destroyed every bone in every boss toad ,killed pa ,counted naruto's FRS and beat naruto with black rods

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First ,he countered naruto's risen shurukin


then ,he destroyed all boss summonings

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Then,he killed pa

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Then he beat naruto with black rods

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CT isn't needed
Deva would do the same with jiraya ,ma,pa and his boss toads

 

[Apêx1]

If Pain decides to use Bansho tenin which I think would be what would be a problem, He can use Needle Jizo given the fact that Kakashi could physically move and throw a chain while Pain was using this

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. That way Pain won't recklessly draw him near.

Shinra Tensei would be quite a drag but if Pain decides to use that, Jiraiya can focus chakra on his feet

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unless Pain decides to use it on a very large scale which I think would be unlikely.

Summonings as well could effectively counter his Shinra Tensei similar to how Naruto did in terms of the interval

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Just that it would be more than Jiraiya attacking this time especially with his clones added. That way he'll be left vulnerable within 5 seconds and unable to do anything especially when their attack is timed properly and used one straightaway after the other.

True, but BT is not necessary imo.

Focusing chakra underneath your feat doesn't imply you won't go flying, as he himself says everything is futile in front of overwhelming power. More so, she will take more damage from staying in her position than going with the repulsion. Same concept irl, if someone punches you in the face and you don't move, you will take much more damage than if someone punches you in your face and you move along with the punch. So if anything, focusing chakra underneath his feet is benefitting Deva, assuming it would work (it won't).

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Not effective at all, Lol. Deva is much faster and stronger in CQC with his rods, Jiraiya stands no chance.

Actually the rods can pierces through Needle Jizo so I think what Itachi said would come into play

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(Middle panel) He can use Dragon fire when Pain resorts to this.

CT is restricted, Katon would do nothing to it at all.

 

[Beans2]

Jiraya wins this in base. Can turn himself two-dimensional, escaping the danage of ST. Yomi Numa to take him by surprise followed by a food cart destroyer/katon/art of the raging lion's mane to take advantage of the 5 second interval. Kage bunshins to make clone feints if necessary.

SM most likely not needed.

 

[Haizaki]

True, but BT is not necessary imo.

Focusing chakra underneath your feat doesn't imply you won't go flying, as he himself says everything is futile in front of overwhelming power. More so, she will take more damage from staying in her position than going with the repulsion. Same concept irl, if someone punches you in the face and you don't move, you will take much more damage than if someone punches you in your face and you move along with the punch. So if anything, focusing chakra underneath his feet is benefitting Deva, assuming it would work (it won't).

You made a very good point here.

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Not effective at all, Lol. Deva is much faster and stronger in CQC with his rods, Jiraiya stands no chance.

I think Jman can use clones to distract him though..I see the summonings would probably be eliminated quickly. Pain would most likely be forced to use Shinra tensei if Jman uses clones since he won't most likely take them all at once with ease and that way Jman could exploit the short time period. If he doesn't use Shinra Tensei to take the clones out, he'll be completely vulnerable against attacks like Swamp of the Underworld

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... Sound right or nah??

CT is restricted, Katon would do nothing to it at all.

I was referring to the fact that Bansho tenin pulls the user towards Deva with force in the same way the orb does as well...Jman can use this to his advantage with techniques like Flame bullet if Pain draws him near which would also increase the attack speed towards Pain.

 

[Demonic.]

Jiraiya shits on him

 

[Apêx1]

You made a very good point here.

Thanks brah.

I think Jman can use clones to distract him though..I see the summonings would probably be eliminated quickly. Pain would most likely be forced to use Shinra tensei if Jman uses clones since he won't most likely take them all at once with ease and that way Jman could exploit the short time period. If he doesn't use Shinra Tensei to take the clones out, he'll be completely vulnerable against attacks like Swamp of the Underworld

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... Sound right or nah??

Fair enough, clones should be pretty useful in this fight. Deva has intel on the swamp, so him simply jumping up/levitating/putting chakra under his feet should counter it completely. Clones are taken out but they can be useful in allowing Jiraya a loss via ST rather than CQC.

I was referring to the fact that Bansho tenin pulls the user towards Deva with force in the same way the orb does as well...Jman can use this to his advantage with techniques like Flame bullet if Pain draws him near which would also increase the attack speed towards Pain.

Oh, my bad. But again, Deva having full intel means that he can opt not to use BT, and end the fight with chakra rods in CQC or ST.

 

[Haizaki]

Thanks brah.




Fair enough, clones should be pretty useful in this fight. Deva has intel on the swamp, so him simply jumping up/levitating/putting chakra under his feet should counter it completely. Clones are taken out but they can be useful in allowing Jiraya a loss via ST rather than CQC.



Oh, my bad. But again, Deva having full intel means that he can opt not to use BT, and end the fight with chakra rods in CQC or ST.

Yeah true true..seems he does win this seeing as Jiraiya would even have a very hard time entering SM.

 

[ARGUS]

Base jiraiya loses
SM wins

 

[Apêx1]

Yeah true true..seems he does win this seeing as Jiraiya would even have a very hard time entering SM.

My thoughts exactly bruh.