Detailed Top ten Strongest Ninja's(No SO6P or his 2 sons)

[6pathofpain]

nagato couldnt stop 8 tails hashi defeated an ems user and nine tails

...you cant be serious:sy: . That was pain and it was only one path

Nagato too high. Naruto & Sasuke are too low

Nagato has good reasons for why he is where he is if you read what ive said to leeko and others.

He'll beat naruto because everything he does is waaaaaay to chakra based

He'll beat, lose or tie edo madara because ninjutsu wont work, suasnoo is to chakra based and preta path counter, Genjutsu wont work because nagato has 8 summons so 8 feilds of vision and doesnt even have to look at madara to fight him and even if madara destroys 7 summons(He'll do so easily im sure) the dog can only be defeated if nagato is and multiples with everytime its striked. So in the end it would come down to a rinnegan battle and no one beside So6P has more experience with those eyes than nagato

He has the upper hand but doesnt automaticlly beat itachi because. High level ninjustu wont work, Genjutsu wont work because again he doesnt have to look at itachi to fight. Totsuka balde can be countered by almighty push(throwing it of target) amaterasu countered by almighty push. Nagato mastered al 5 elements at the age of 10 and can throw a wide amount of different jutsu at itachi. And itachi may not be strong enough to stop planetary devastation on his own. But itachi's smarts,ability to adapt, unbreakable sheild, and one hit sword will diffinitly make him a high difficulty win for anyone in my book.

And Sasuke for the same reasons as itachi except he doesnt have itachi's brains, adaptablity level, cool head, or unbreakable sheild or one hit sword.

Tobi would actually be a really good match but thats to long and since ive already type alot im not gonna go into it now.

He can beat The 1st id say because all of the 1st high scale or highly destructive forest jutsu come from the ground and nagato flying makes it dam near impossible for the first to hit him with those, and the 1st healing abilities wont save him forever.

If anythings wrong with what i just said im open for discussion.

 

[FizzyDrink]

1/2. Nagato or Edo madara
-Most experience with rinnegan, anything madara can do he can counter on a larger scale
-Mastered all Elements at the age of 10,Rinnegan enables him to use any jutsu he desires
-Planetary devastation-most would figure out how to counter an few are strong enough to breakout
-Almighty push-Destruction on a large scale, can counter amaterasu
-Universal pull-Pulls any enemy towards him
Paths-Absorbs any ninjustu an chakra from oppenents, Can take souls from one touch, Assemble multi arms,cannons,an missles, And has 8 summons so 9 feilds of vision making him have almost no blind spots
. Edo Madara
-Rinnegan an EMS
-everything i just said about nagato but on a less experienced scale
-Woodstlye, can change battlefield to his advantage at anytime
-Perfect suasnoo with incredible destructive power
-Fire style expert
-Excellent taijustu, sword skills an all around experience
3/4/5.(could be either) The 1st
-Wood stlye on a more experienced level than madara
-Incredble strength most likely exceeding tsunades
-Highly skilled taijutsu an sword skills(scroll containing like 10 different swords)
-Instant healing abilities
-Formidable sealing
-High all around experience
. Itachi
-MS sharingan an mastered Sharingan at the age of 10
-Incredible Intelect, most likely highest level seen in a shinboi in battle
-High level ninjustu speacializing in Fire style most likely not far behind madara if it's behind at all(since we've never seen him seriously fight)
-High level taijutsu
-Highest level genjutsu we've in naruto
-Yata mirror(greatest defense seen) totuska blade(one hit kill, sealing sword)
-suasnoo, amaterasu
-High all around experience an fought in war as mercinary while in akauski(i dont no how to spell that shit)
-Last, one of his best qualities. He never panics an always as stays calm an handles things with his mind instead of his ego(madara) or strength(nagato)
. Minato
-Fastest ninja ever
-FTG
-Reasgun
-Geinus perhaps the only ninja in the battle to match or perhaps surpass itachi
-Incredible sealing abilities
-High all around experience, an has fought in 2 wars
6. Naruto
-Sage mode
-KM mode
-BM mode
-Incredible chakra due to full control of 9 Tails
-Increasing ok intelgance in battle
-Incredible Wind stlye jutsu's
-Clones on a incredible number an power
-Med or a tad over taijutsu
7. 3rd Raikage
-Incredbile stamina an durablity
-Lightning sheild exceeding the 4th raikage
-Speed almost matching the 4th raikage
-Incredble lightning attacks including the hell finger thing, and black lightning
-Not sure on his taijutsu but id imagine he doesnt really stand an trade blows
8. 4th Raikage
Everything i just said able the 3rd but on a lower scale except for speed, an i dont think he knows black lightning
9. 2nd hokage
-Incredible water style, perhaps the best ever
-Mastered space time justu
-Senju, Large amount of chakra an stamina
-Created edo but on a lower scale than kabuto an i believe oro aswell
-Also know as a genius in battle but we've never seen him in battle to compare him to itachi an minato
-High level taijutsu
-Bringer of darkness genjutsu (which could help possibly take the 7th or 8th spot from the raikages since speed an power are useless when your blind against someone as smart an skill as the 2nd was said to be)
High level experience fought in three wars i believe(Senju vs Uchiha, The war before his death, An the war of his death)
10. Gaara, Suaske, or Tobi(Moving tobi to 6 or 4th)
. Gaara
-High level defense, able to block amatasu(an i believe it blocked dust realease once as well. But for some reason the manga where i believe he does it is gone so i cant prove it :sy: )
long range fighter, an can fly an deliver wide scale high destructive or incasing attacks from a distance
-High level intellagance
-Third eye gives him a third feild of vision, helps him a tad against genjutsu(Like it did against the 3rd mizikage)
. Suaske
-EMS sharingan
-Amateasu perhaps on a higher level than itachi
-Suasnoo, super fast bow an arrow an powerful defense
-Med to high level taijutsu an swordsmen skills(He's pretty even with naruto)
-High level genjustu(not on itachi's level)
-Pretty well skilled fire stlye jutsu's
-High level lightning justu user(but i dont believe anything on black lightning's level)
. Tobi
-Rinnegan an Sharingan
-Can be transparent
-BLack hole justu(i guess you could call it that, im not sure what its called)
-Havent seen a whole lot of his rinnegan skills but im sure there pretty high level

Upon request i will Explain a battle Between whoevers on the list and why people have been put where they are.

Ok, I've decided to give this a shot...

First of all, these have to be done with a characters prime WHILE THEY WERE ALIVE, so Kabuto has his edos. All of them. A character as an edo on his own though doesn't count. Saying that...

Kabuto is the strongest. Madara only managed to gain control WHEN edo tensei was being released. At that point, the original contract was ended and he created a new one. At least I think so. If not, Kabuto is still number 1 with all the rest of his edos, including Nagato, Itachi, and Muu.

Tobi is way to low. Currently he has a rinnegan and Sharingan, and there is NO way to hit him without massive speed or a powerful team that can trap him. He has to be second for sure.

I don't know enough about Hashirama to make a fair assessment, I'll let you do as you will with him.

There are many more characters stronger than Itachi than you give him credit for. Minato will beat him the majority of times, as well as Naruto and Muu. Sasuke is a maybe. But you definitely have Itachi too high.

Naruto is too low. Don't know how he matches up against Minato, but he'll definitely defeat Itachi.

Having the Raikages there is just not the right decision. They are susceptible to genjutsu, and would also certainly lose to the likes of Sasuke, Sasori, Orochimaru, Deidara, and others.

You don't know NEARLY enough about the second Hokage to place him on the list at all.

Gaara would lose to Sasuke, Sasori, Kakuzu, Muu, Second Mizukage, Deidara, and SO many others, you having him on that list is VERY wrong. He's DEFINITELY not top 10 material. Although he's still one of my favorite characters.

Tobi is has to be at least second. Him being that low is ridiculous.

So yeah. Overall, I'd say your list gets a...2/10 for accuracy. And that's considering the fact that having a 100% accurate list is impossible.

 

[6pathofpain]

Ok, I've decided to give this a shot...

First of all, these have to be done with a characters prime WHILE THEY WERE ALIVE, so Kabuto has his edos. All of them. A character as an edo on his own though doesn't count. Saying that...

Kabuto is the strongest. Madara only managed to gain control WHEN edo tensei was being released. At that point, the original contract was ended and he created a new one. At least I think so. If not, Kabuto is still number 1 with all the rest of his edos, including Nagato, Itachi, and Muu.

Tobi is way to low. Currently he has a rinnegan and Sharingan, and there is NO way to hit him without massive speed or a powerful team that can trap him. He has to be second for sure.

I don't know enough about Hashirama to make a fair assessment, I'll let you do as you will with him.

There are many more characters stronger than Itachi than you give him credit for. Minato will beat him the majority of times, as well as Naruto and Muu. Sasuke is a maybe. But you definitely have Itachi too high.

Naruto is too low. Don't know how he matches up against Minato, but he'll definitely defeat Itachi.

Having the Raikages there is just not the right decision. They are susceptible to genjutsu, and would also certainly lose to the likes of Sasuke, Sasori, Orochimaru, Deidara, and others.

You don't know NEARLY enough about the second Hokage to place him on the list at all.

Gaara would lose to Sasuke, Sasori, Kakuzu, Muu, Second Mizukage, Deidara, and SO many others, you having him on that list is VERY wrong. He's DEFINITELY not top 10 material. Although he's still one of my favorite characters.

Tobi is has to be at least second. Him being that low is ridiculous.

So yeah. Overall, I'd say your list gets a...2/10 for accuracy. And that's considering the fact that having a 100% accurate list is impossible.

this is what was said about kabuto against nagato to someone esle earlier, please state your thoughs...
Kabuto im assuming your giving all his edo's? Well that wont include madara because he was never under kabuto's control, and not itachi because im using him as part of the discussion as his own person(and he also broke edo).
Kabuto's only real help here is the blindness jutsu and his sound genjutsu. The blindness justu is countered by almighty push cause obviouly kabuto will be coming in for the attack and this jutsu will effect his edo's as well. Nagato's dog summon can split into hundreds with all those edo's on the attack quickly and even the number and also give nagato more feilds of vision. Not to mention the other 8 summons buying nagato time to plan. Most of kabuto's edo's wouldnt even be a threat to nagato besides Muu, Maybe the 3rd raikage( i say maybe because his attacks may cause the same reaction as Bee's attack while raikage cloaked in his lightnign sheild) and maybe mizukage. But theyll most likely be busy with the dogs who can only be defeated if nagato is defeated. Nagato is honestly the only person beside naruto who can even the odds with kabuto beside edo madara(wood clone suasnoo's) and Naruto(obvious reasons). Kabuto unlike Most has no projectile jutsu with power that we've seen and has no ansewer for planetary devastation. And yes this will also take his summons but he can make them disappear just as easily as they appear but keep the dogs there to destracted edo's and kabuto while there being sucked up. Kabuto's sound genjutsu(and this is a long shot but could be true) since its cast through sound waves may be countered by almighty push because he might be able to counter the waves. But that is a loooong shot and sound is pretty fast. The way i see it kabuto has no counter to planetary devastation and nagato may have no counter for sound genjutsu.

Madara i dont believe was ever under kabuto's control, at least he or kabuto never made any indication say he was. Kabuto did however basically say show me what you can do which to me says that madara was doin his own thing. Besides madara wanted to fight, there was no reason to control him.
But with his wood clone madara's and suasnoo's and unlimited chakra he can easily match kabuto's number of edo's and an arm of madara's vs kabuto and his edo's? Kabuto will be destroyed.
Naruto can also match kabuto's number of summons im sure espeacially now that him and the 9 tails are cool, so i think he could beat kabuto too cause he made enoudh to go to every battlefeild directly after training with be and sparring with A, so if he's fresh im sure he could make even more than kabuto's edo's.

Oro, sasori, and deidara cant even get through A's lightning sheild im not sure why you think They would beat him because even though oro immortal he still will get fatigue from reborning himself or whatever that weirdo calls it to many times. And the only thing sasuke can do to get past the sheild is Amtaterasu and thats not fast enough and i suppose chidori but that only broke it alil so im not sure how he wins. Or any of the people you said would beat him.

And Gaara, maybe Muu and the Second Mizikage but he's stronger now and the only reason deidara won is cause he attacked gaara's village and gaara had to protect them, sasori 's 100 puppets still have nothing to get through gaara's sand defence espeacially now that its even faster. And gaara blocks amaterasu most likely suasnoo arrows, can possibly pull sasuke out os suasnoo and was able to block madara's regular not comeplete aashole suasnoo's sword so i dont see how sasuke wins either besides a lucky genjutsu.

 

[ntel]

The 4th Raikage ,Gaara, and 2nd hokage shouldn't be up there.

This except for the 2nd hokage bit.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Eh i think Gaara would pull it off, but for what reason do you believe that?

Well, since they can both technically fly it so it would be a good match up. Muu's invisibility would be too much for gaara to handle since he won't know where he is. His Dust attacks are also too much for Gaara to handle, it had enough force to destroy 25 clones using Susano'o. He can slip through Gaara's defence with Invisibilty and finish him off with: Detachment of primitive world tech.

 

[OnPoint]

Just wrong IMO. If I had to give it to a go, it'd probably end up like this:

1. Kabuto
2. Tobi
3. Madara
4. Nagato
5. Hashirama
6. Naruto
7. Prime Hiruzen
8. Minato
9. Sasuke
10. Itachi

With 4, 5 and 6 being far from certain. I feel like Hashirama is stronger than Nagato, but would lose because Mokuton can just be absorbed. But I also think current Naruto would beat Nagato, but lose to Shodaime :/

 

[SilverSlick]

Kabuto is not #1. Your top ten has already started off wrong. And it doesn't get better...

Lol I agree, and the fact that Tobi isn't even in the top 5. Or is he?

 

[SilverSlick]

1. Kabuto
2. Tobi
3. Nagato
4. Rinnegan Madara
5. Hashirama
6. Tobirama
7. Itachi
8. Minato
9. Hiruzen
10. Jiraiya

I added Tobirama because I felt like it. I usually don't add Naruto and Sasuke to list like these. If I were to, Naruto would be top 5 and Sasuke would be near Itachi. Hashirama is arguably stronger than Madara and Minato is arguably stronger than Itachi. Reason why I added Nagato above Madara was because he is more adept with it. When I say Nagato, I mean Nagato plus 6 paths. Tobi is stronger than both Nagato and Madara because of his S/T technique plus his Rinnegan.

EDIT: I meant Nagato is more adept with Rinnegan than Madara.

 

[6pathofpain]

Just wrong IMO. If I had to give it to a go, it'd probably end up like this:

1. Kabuto
2. Tobi
3. Madara
4. Nagato
5. Hashirama
6. Naruto
7. Prime Hiruzen
8. Minato
9. Sasuke
10. Itachi

With 4, 5 and 6 being far from certain. I feel like Hashirama is stronger than Nagato, but would lose because Mokuton can just be absorbed. But I also think current Naruto would beat Nagato, but lose to Shodaime :/

i actually forgot about kabuto because i hate that nigga but if you read some of my earlier post i explain why he wouldnt be number 1. And you put Naruto and the 3rd before Minato?Why? And Sasuke and The 3rd before itachi? What the hell?

Lol I agree, and the fact that Tobi isn't even in the top 5. Or is he?

Tobi is competing for 4th. And i forgot about kabuto cause i hate that nigga...But if you look at some of my previous post i explian why he's not number one

 

[OnPoint]

i actually forgot about kabuto because i hate that nigga but if you read some of my earlier post i explain why he wouldnt be number 1. And you put Naruto and the 3rd before Minato?Why? And Sasuke and The 3rd before itachi? What the hell?



Tobi is competing for 4th. And i forgot about kabuto cause i hate that nigga...But if you look at some of my previous post i explian why he's not number one

Yeah, obviously. Naruto definately surpassed his father, and you'd be a fool if you still believe Itachi > EMS Sasuke. Sandaime Hokage has some outrageous hype and fought against his two former mentors + his student, yet you think a guy who was pushed to his limits by 3 Tomoe Sasuke deserves to be above the 'God of Shinobi'? I'm done.

 

[6pathofpain]

Yeah, obviously. Naruto definately surpassed his father, and you'd be a fool if you still believe Itachi > EMS Sasuke. Sandaime Hokage has some outrageous hype and fought against his two former mentors + his student, yet you think a guy who was pushed to his limits by 3 Tomoe Sasuke deserves to be above the 'God of Shinobi'? I'm done.

Minato can surpress 9 tails chakra with one hand during taijutsu which naruto mainly uses. When they break away from taijutsu minato will put a tag on him(which seems to be his normal plan and would work on naruto cause he's an idoit half the time). And Once a tags on him it's over. Naruto Beats him in power, at best matches him in speed. But minato super out matches naruto in brains and matches him in speed. Minato's fighting style is a bad match for naruto...Naruto cant win.

And what makes you think EMS sasuke stands a chance against itachi? Since itachi's edo he might as well have ems too(Using edo because that was his strongest state and i already had to use edo madara and i didnt wanna be unfair to itachi). ANd itachi's suasnoo would raoe sasuke's, and taijutsu sasuke cant see him. And with brain sasuke is no match. Why would he beat sasuke?

And dont bring hype to my thread. The 3rd has shown nothing credible that he could beat the real 1st or 2nd hokage(the edo's were mindless drones) and he's shown no jutsu that out matches 1st or 2nd or itachi's suasnoo and thats if he makes it past itachi's genjutsu...Which i doubt.

 

[OnPoint]

BM Naruto and his KM clones have wayyy too much for Minato to deal with at one time.

O I C, so you're fanboying Itachi by making him Edo? Hmm kk.

Claiming Itachi > Prime Sandaime Hokage is laughable.

 

[6pathofpain]

BM Naruto and his KM clones have wayyy too much for Minato to deal with at one time.

O I C, so you're fanboying Itachi by making him Edo? Hmm kk.

Claiming Itachi > Prime Sandaime Hokage is laughable.

Lets not make up bs naruto in one on one fights doesnt not use alot of clones from the begining, he'll most likely go KM mode and get sealed up and you know it cause Km mode seems to be his favorite. And Even if he went BM mode he's still not fast enough to hit minato since he has FTG and he'll only be a bigger and easier target to seal. Like i said naruto is a bad match up for minato

Its only fair Cause i made Madara edo dont you think? In everyone elses list or when they talk about him now they talk about him in edo form. It's only fair, and if being fair is being a "fanboy" get over it.

Ok since you know so much about his prime please tell me about it...

 

[Beetle]

Tobi not even in the list? Meanwhile he is making the #5 on the list (Naruto), plus his buddies, look useless..

 

[6pathofpain]

Tobi not even in the list? Meanwhile he is making the #5 on the list (Naruto), plus his buddies, look useless..

If you payed attention tobi's competeing for 4th...

 

[SasukesBody]

Sasuke is stronger than Naruto, 3rd raikage, 4th raikage, 2nd hokage, Minato or Itachi... So based on your list he should be 4th.

 

[6pathofpain]

Sasuke is stronger than Naruto, 3rd raikage, 4th raikage, 2nd hokage, Minato or Itachi... So based on your list he should be 4th.

Im sorry you believe that...

 

[SilverSlick]

Im sorry you believe that...

That guy likes to ride Sasuke's skin flute obviously.

 

[6pathofpain]

That guy likes to ride Sasuke's skin flute obviously.

:rofl:

 

[6pathofpain]

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