Detailed Top ten Strongest Ninja's(No SO6P or his 2 sons)

[6pathofpain]

naruto surpassed his father a long time ago

Minato can seal the nine tails chakra with one hand and one touch, and sage mode is not enough. Sage mode's strength will probably out match minato's but minato's speed and brains out match naruto. And naruto being a taijutsu user in all his fights...Minato will seal the nine tails chakra in there first exchange and put a tag on him when seperate(when seen him do this more than once. Once against tobi and also against a random in kakashi gaiden) And once that tag is on naruto it's over. Naurto being a mainly taijutsu user puts him at a huge disadvantage against someone who fights the way minato does. And minato wont be out matched in speed, or in brains, only in power. Strength wont win a match against minato.

 

[leeko]

nagato is not tied with madara .. he should be high but not top 3 maybe not top 5

 

[6pathofpain]

nagato is not tied with madara .. he should be high but not top 3 maybe not top 5

Y not? who would for sure beat him? Name 5

 

[FizzyDrink]

Kabuto is not #1. Your top ten has already started off wrong. And it doesn't get better...

 

[leeko]

Y not? who would for sure beat him? Name 5

Madara
Hashirama
Naruto current ( only because he can now work with kyuubi but before no)
Itachi could get him
and thats all i got only because nagato actually isnt that battle smart and itachi is really smart

ps maybe the 3rd because of hype wow and i forgot kabuto

 

[Myogen]

I don't believe you can rank shinobi properly in a top 10 list. But Rikudo sennin should certainly be at number 1 and Tobi should not be that low.

 

[leeko]

Before Nagato
Madara
Hashirama
Kabuto
Naruto
Itachi

 

[arv993]

this thread while put a lot of effort in is off. tobi and kabuto are nowhere near the top but nagato ties the top u have got to be kidding me

 

[warlee]

Well if you wont listen to reason your the one being baised and a tad on the stupid side.

I reply with logic when im on this site and if you dont have any logic to back your opinion feel free to leave. I keep an open mind and am willing to change my opinion, but i put alot of thought in to this actually and have reasons for why everyone was put in the stop they were put.

So if you have no logic and you dont want logic...kindly **** off :shrug:

well it's impossible to convince on this base so i'm gonna give it a try.
First my top 10
1, edo madara
2, tobi
3, naruto
4, nagato [both can switch]
5, hashirama he can create a lot of wood but the top ninja have a lot of destructive force which can level it w/o much effort
6, itachi/minato
7, minato/itachi both are equal atleast that is how they are potrayed in the manga in connections w/ the main charaters
8, sasuke, his full armoured susano can't be destroy by anybody except my top 4 or 5 and his enton manipulation + the arrow
9, killer bee the perfect jin of the second strongest bijuu
10, jiraiya,muu,onoiki,3rd raikage, 4th raikage,orochimaru,2nd mizukage all belong to the same place and are interchangable.
Notice the 1 above beat the 1ce below

 

[irishboy9780]

Nagato is not number one. He is below BM Naruto which means he is no higher then 5th. Edo madara>tobi with juubi>hashi>BM Naruto>Nagato. And if you could please fix the formatting of OP it is quite an eyesore. >.>

 

[BloodSeed]

minato is number 1 untill naruto surpass him. minato got the coat like so6p so that means something

see naruto at bijuu mode? he develops a coat. whats with that coat???

 

[6pathofpain]

Madara
Hashirama
Naruto current ( only because he can now work with kyuubi but before no)
Itachi could get him
and thats all i got only because nagato actually isnt that battle smart and itachi is really smart

ps maybe the 3rd because of hype wow and i forgot kabuto

All my explinations will be the short version since there's 5 of em, but ill use more detail if needed

Hashirama's wood jutsu and forest creation is countered by flying which nagato can a do and does often, Taijutsu would be useless against nagato because of his extra arms which was see when fighting KM naruto and Killer bee(the extra arms i think is kinda cheating smh). And the 1st healing will only save him for so long and i doubt his chakra will out last nagato's because he has extreme stamina as seen when he attacked the leaf. How does The 1st win?

Current Naruto i hate to say has no chance. KM and BM naruto are cloaked in chakra and nagato will feed on it everytime they touch just like he did bee and KM naruto. EVerything Naruto's nine tails modes do is flowing with chakra and will make it ineffective. I dont see what naruto can do to even cause damage to nagato honestly :shrug:. Not to mention he's really not that smart, without itachi he wouldnt even of beat planetary devastation and may not beat it without him. Sure TBB is strong enough but i doubt nagato will allow him to attack the core. He probably would of lost his soul agasint nagato when he grabbed him. And BM only last 5 min's. Thats not enough.

Itachi could get him with genjutsu thats about it. The sealing sword against a nagato who's in control of his self can counter that attack with almighty push or simply dodging it. Non of itachi's high level fire style will work for obvious reasons and suasnoo wont save him from planetary devastation which he may not be strong enough to stop on his own. And raining metor's will go over bad for suasnoo as well. Genjutsu like i said would be his best choice but nagato avoids looking in itachi's eyes while fighting with his linked vision from his summons, can counter amaterasu with almighty push, and perhaps even pull itachi outta suasnoo with universal pull which i think would prove easier than gaara pulling madara out with lightned sand.

The 3rd has nothing to stop nagato besides killing himself as well and no offence but hype means nothing to me. He's shown nothing that nagato would take seriously and nothing that can beat him. All ninjutsu and taijutsu is useless for reasons already stated.

Kabuto im assuming your giving all his edo's? Well that wont include madara because he was never under kabuto's control, and not itachi because im using him as part of the discussion as his own person(and he also broke edo).
Kabuto's only real help here is the blindness jutsu and his sound genjutsu. The blindness justu is countered by almighty push cause obviouly kabuto will be coming in for the attack and this jutsu will effect his edo's as well. Nagato's dog summon can split into hundreds with all those edo's on the attack quickly and even the number and also give nagato more feilds of vision. Not to mention the other 8 summons buying nagato time to plan. Most of kabuto's edo's wouldnt even be a threat to nagato besides Muu, Maybe the 3rd raikage( i say maybe because his attacks may cause the same reaction as Bee's attack while raikage cloaked in his lightnign sheild) and maybe mizukage. But theyll most likely be busy with the dogs who can only be defeated if nagato is defeated. Nagato is honestly the only person beside naruto who can even the odds with kabuto beside edo madara(wood clone suasnoo's) and Naruto(obvious reasons). Kabuto unlike Most has no projectile jutsu with power that we've seen and has no ansewer for planetary devastation. And yes this will also take his summons but he can make them disappear just as easily as they appear but keep the dogs there to destracted edo's and kabuto while there being sucked up. Kabuto's sound genjutsu(and this is a long shot but could be true) since its cast through sound waves may be countered by almighty push because he might be able to counter the waves. But that is a loooong shot and sound is pretty fast. The way i see it kabuto has no counter to planetary devastation and nagato may have no counter for sound genjutsu.

 

[6pathofpain]

well it's impossible to convince on this base so i'm gonna give it a try.
First my top 10
1, edo madara
2, tobi
3, naruto
4, nagato [both can switch]
5, hashirama he can create a lot of wood but the top ninja have a lot of destructive force which can level it w/o much effort
6, itachi/minato
7, minato/itachi both are equal atleast that is how they are potrayed in the manga in connections w/ the main charaters
8, sasuke, his full armoured susano can't be destroy by anybody except my top 4 or 5 and his enton manipulation + the arrow
9, killer bee the perfect jin of the second strongest bijuu
10, jiraiya,muu,onoiki,3rd raikage, 4th raikage,orochimaru,2nd mizukage all belong to the same place and are interchangable.
Notice the 1 above beat the 1ce below

read what i said to leeko and reply with your thoughts. And nagato is tide with madara because madara's sharingan and base attacks wont work on nagato. His high level jutsu is useless(preta path) taijutsu is useless(mech path multiple arms) his suasnoo is most likely useless(everything it does is chakra base and preta path stops it. The slash is arguably more of a shock wave then chakra, im not sure but deva path almighty push can counter that and i dont think nagato has a 5 sec interval but thats not a fact either). In the end it would most likely come down to a rinnegan batlle and there's no one who has more experience with rinnegan than nagato.

 

[6pathofpain]

this thread while put a lot of effort in is off. tobi and kabuto are nowhere near the top but nagato ties the top u have got to be kidding me

Why has no one noticed that Tobi was put to be comepeting for 4th place, i made a mistake and forgot about him until the end but i put right next to him i changed my mind smh come on you gotta read things.

And i honestly comepletely forgot about kabuto, but i hate his ol punk ass anyway. But he's not in there because i forgot about him. But see what i said to i believe his name is leeko on why nagato could beat him.

 

[6pathofpain]

Sorry for the multi posting but i dont know how to quote more than one person at a time some bare with me, but this statement is for everyone...

TOBI WAS PUT COMEPETING FOR 4TH, READ WHAT IT SAYS RIGHT NEXT TO HIS NAME BEFORE YOU POST ABOUT HIS RANK. His competing because hell be easier to catch in a genjutsu than Madara and nagato(madara because one he's a thug and because he's a uchiha and may be able to break it or just avoid it. And nagato because with his 8 summons giving him 8 feilds of vision he doenst have to even look at itachi to fight him, and unlike when he was being controlled by kabuto, he'll be paying attention if one of his summons if about to be stabbed in the eye). And his suasnoo will be a problem because even if he warps into suasnoo he has to solidifi(spelled that wrong) to use an attack of any kind and since suasnoo is a solid object he'll be solidifing himself with a ribcage in his stomach or something of suasnoo still inside his body and i dont think he can do that. Not to mention itachi's battle smarts.

And he's battling with minato for the spot because minato can out smart him again i think, but tobi's extra power(rinnegan) and new weapon(whatever that thing is) may change the battle up, but with minato's battle smarts and ability to escape faster than the blink of an eye, thats a difficult battle for anyone.

I personal think he could beat the 1st...

 

[leeko]

All my explinations will be the short version since there's 5 of em, but ill use more detail if needed

Hashirama's wood jutsu and forest creation is countered by flying which nagato can a do and does often, Taijutsu would be useless against nagato because of his extra arms which was see when fighting KM naruto and Killer bee(the extra arms i think is kinda cheating smh). And the 1st healing will only save him for so long and i doubt his chakra will out last nagato's because he has extreme stamina as seen when he attacked the leaf. How does The 1st win?

Current Naruto i hate to say has no chance. KM and BM naruto are cloaked in chakra and nagato will feed on it everytime they touch just like he did bee and KM naruto. EVerything Naruto's nine tails modes do is flowing with chakra and will make it ineffective. I dont see what naruto can do to even cause damage to nagato honestly :shrug:. Not to mention he's really not that smart, without itachi he wouldnt even of beat planetary devastation and may not beat it without him. Sure TBB is strong enough but i doubt nagato will allow him to attack the core. He probably would of lost his soul agasint nagato when he grabbed him. And BM only last 5 min's. Thats not enough.

Itachi could get him with genjutsu thats about it. The sealing sword against a nagato who's in control of his self can counter that attack with almighty push or simply dodging it. Non of itachi's high level fire style will work for obvious reasons and suasnoo wont save him from planetary devastation which he may not be strong enough to stop on his own. And raining metor's will go over bad for suasnoo as well. Genjutsu like i said would be his best choice but nagato avoids looking in itachi's eyes while fighting with his linked vision from his summons, can counter amaterasu with almighty push, and perhaps even pull itachi outta suasnoo with universal pull which i think would prove easier than gaara pulling madara out with lightned sand.

The 3rd has nothing to stop nagato besides killing himself as well and no offence but hype means nothing to me. He's shown nothing that nagato would take seriously and nothing that can beat him. All ninjutsu and taijutsu is useless for reasons already stated.

Kabuto im assuming your giving all his edo's? Well that wont include madara because he was never under kabuto's control, and not itachi because im using him as part of the discussion as his own person(and he also broke edo).
Kabuto's only real help here is the blindness jutsu and his sound genjutsu. The blindness justu is countered by almighty push cause obviouly kabuto will be coming in for the attack and this jutsu will effect his edo's as well. Nagato's dog summon can split into hundreds with all those edo's on the attack quickly and even the number and also give nagato more feilds of vision. Not to mention the other 8 summons buying nagato time to plan. Most of kabuto's edo's wouldnt even be a threat to nagato besides Muu, Maybe the 3rd raikage( i say maybe because his attacks may cause the same reaction as Bee's attack while raikage cloaked in his lightnign sheild) and maybe mizukage. But theyll most likely be busy with the dogs who can only be defeated if nagato is defeated. Nagato is honestly the only person beside naruto who can even the odds with kabuto beside edo madara(wood clone suasnoo's) and Naruto(obvious reasons). Kabuto unlike Most has no projectile jutsu with power that we've seen and has no ansewer for planetary devastation. And yes this will also take his summons but he can make them disappear just as easily as they appear but keep the dogs there to destracted edo's and kabuto while there being sucked up. Kabuto's sound genjutsu(and this is a long shot but could be true) since its cast through sound waves may be countered by almighty push because he might be able to counter the waves. But that is a loooong shot and sound is pretty fast. The way i see it kabuto has no counter to planetary devastation and nagato may have no counter for sound genjutsu.

just because he can fly doesnt mean hashi cant get to him .... even tho he can absorb chakra doesnt mean he can touch naruto at will ... his nearly limitless chakra will replenish if he can absorb even for a little ... itachi is smart enough to cast his genjutsu or whatever on him and kabuto did have madara and itachi under his controll but even withought those to he could win because the edo jutsu it too powerful

 

[naruttebayo]

different people diff. op . lol

 

[leeko]

nagato couldnt stop 8 tails hashi defeated an ems user and nine tails

 

[Champ]

Nagato too high. Naruto & Sasuke are too low

 

[6pathofpain]

just because he can fly doesnt mean hashi cant get to him .... even tho he can absorb chakra doesnt mean he can touch naruto at will ... his nearly limitless chakra will replenish if he can absorb even for a little ... itachi is smart enough to cast his genjutsu or whatever on him and kabuto did have madara and itachi under his controll but even withought those to he could win because the edo jutsu it too powerful

I didnt say he cant get to him at all im saying his large scale forest creation and destructive forest jutsu will be useless because those come strictly from the ground.

Im not saying he will draing naruto completely but it completly nulifies taijutsu attacks when your cloaked in chakra. Look at when Bee hit him with the lariat or whatever. Nagato didnt even react like he got hit. And look how fast Bee was taken out of his 8 tails cloak. The 9 tails has more chakra then the 8 but i doubt that much more. 9 tails will run out after a few attacks and none of naruto's high level ninjutsu will work either. Think about it, everything naruto does is chakra based, nagato is just a bad match up for him.

I dont see how he can do it if nagato never looks at him, i know he's smart but i cant think of how he can do it. Can you?

And madara was never under kabuto's control, never once did he say or make any indications that he wasnt in control of his own body. And kabuto himself asked madara to show him his power so thats how you know madara was doin his own thing. Madara wanted to fight so there was no need to control him.(Honestly the way madara is, he'd probably see all those edo's vs one person and 8 summons, release himself from edo and join nagato's side for the challenge lol but thats not important). And ill give you itachi i suppose, even tho he did break free he was under control at least at one point.

And after all that was said on how nagato could battle edo all you have to say is edo is too powerful? It seems like you came into this debate with a set mind, you cant have a truly good debate unless your willing to change your mind due to facts and make your opinion off of facts. What about the way i said he would fight Edo was wrong?