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TheEvilOne

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Orochimaru? Really? He can't control Hashirama....And DSM Kabuto with his Edo Army >> Orochimaru even if he can control Hashirama.
 

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Kabuto still beats Orochimaru with his Edo Tensei army.

Madara >= Hashirama.
Nagato > Minato.
Kin & Gin bro's > Tobirama.
Deidara and Kakuzu > Hiruzen.

Kabuto > Orochimaru. So he should be replaced. Not to mention, Indra and Ashura have the same power as Sasuke and Naruto currently.
 
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Zee U

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Good list, though i would replace Naruto with Kabuto and his Edo army.
 

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The most logical top Ten I've ever seen
 

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and this is mine:

1. Kagyua Ootsutsuki/ Ten tails Host Hagoromo Ootsutsuki
2. Shinjuu absorbed Ten tails host Madara
3. Ten tails Host Madara
4. Ten tails host Obito v2
5. Ten tails less Hagoromo Ootsutsuki
6. Naruto/Sasuke /8th Gate Gai [weakened Ten tails host Madara/Hagoromo's brother]
7. Ten tails host Obito v1 [SM Rinnegan Madara]
8, Ashura/Indra
9. SM Hashirama [BSM Naruto, Kabuto with ET, Orochimaru with ET]
10. EMS Sasuke [BM Naruto/EMS Madara]
 
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I would put SM Hashirama over BSM Naruto, but overall good list.

Also, instead or multiple versions of same chars, putting different ones would be better.

İnstead of extra Hogoromo, Madara and Naruto, they can be placed by Ashura/Indra, Kabuto with ET and 8th gate Gai.
 

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Not so minuscule. And apparently those black balls take load of chakra as madara couldnt form new ones.
And yes it is relevant as it is then added to other factors such as beating and loss of onmyudon balls. Dont you think that a chakra is consumed when one recovers?
I wont deny that probably main reason is naruto's power up, but one cant deny that madara didnt fully recover yet it visibly clear. So it combination of both along with element of surprise.
Or should we also say that Obito in near vegetable state blitzed madara when he got his fist up madara's chest?
Tree is made of mokuton, it doesnt have any durability feat. Im sure regular giant FRS or PS slash would cut it down. SA was planning to do that anyway.
We dont know for sure. Naruto openly admits he needs sasuke for madara and madara isnt much stronger then obito. So it makes no sense for you to claim that naruto or sasuke can beat jin Obito U_U
By this logic naruto shouldnt be blitzing madara. Simply as naruto's base speed is pathetic compared to madara and the power up from combined bijuus shouldnt give better results then whole juubi.
Or maybe it does as we dont know how much stronger madara initially was both are juubi jins after all, difference couldnt be that great.
What im saying is that current naruto and sasuke have no place above jin Obito, surely not until more feats U_U
Nothing to relate here except logic twilight zone you live in.
What hole? It was little grasp for crying out loud U_U. Madara's durability was appropriate for SM he was having. Logically this SM was over written by nature energy from juubi.

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He clearly was bisected.

I am serious. Both Obito and madara being juubi jins make them of roughly same power, with minor edge to madara.
Naruto needing sasuke to beat madara clearly indicated he would need sasuke to beat obito.
Yet somehow you turn sasuke and naruto being stronger then jin Obito which would render him under half of madara's power, so WTF? :rage:

It simply devoid of logic contradiction based on god knows what judgement.

You must be one die hard obito fanboy. Out of all the other things you could be arguing, you're arguing about obito being stronger than the main character and his side kick :|
 

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What is Orcohimaru doing there ? He cannot control Hashirama.
 

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I would not say Madara has minor edge to Obito, as a villain who comes after Obito he is well above him.

Madara has obtained more bijuu, buffed up with SM and regeneration. Also at "base" he is more skilled and stronger than Obito. Even appearance is more neat to indicate who is more formidable.

Now he is getting even more stronger, as he looks more like Kaguya.

Don't know what is there to argue.
 

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I would not say Madara has minor edge to Obito, as a villain who comes after Obito he is well above him.

Madara has obtained more bijuu, buffed up with SM and regeneration. Also at "base" he is more skilled and stronger than Obito. Even appearance is more neat to indicate who is more formidable.

Now he is getting even more stronger, as he looks more like Kaguya.

Don't know what is there to argue.

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Hashirama could break Oro's restraint ONLY BECAUSE Orochimaru let them do what they wanted to. A simple Fuda to Hashi's head and he's Oro's puppet once again.
 

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to many of the same person.

other than that not bad

madara was up there like 5 times
 

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Pretty sure KG would have at least put Hashirama above BSM Naruto. Why are there multiple same characters in a top10 list anyway?
 

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Not so minuscule. And apparently those black balls take load of chakra as madara couldnt form new ones.
And yes it is relevant as it is then added to other factors such as beating and loss of onmyudon balls. Dont you think that a chakra is consumed when one recovers?

That's just your assumption with nothing to back it.

-Madara already said its Naruto's strength alone that pushed him back, not the fact that he wasn't injured.

I wont deny that probably main reason is naruto's power up, but one cant deny that madara didnt fully recover yet it visibly clear. So it combination of both along with element of surprise.

Him not fully recovering isn't relevant as per Madara's sattement.

Or should we also say that Obito in near vegetable state blitzed madara when he got his fist up madara's chest?

Did he move toward Madara so quickly that he couldn't react? No. So that is unrelated to Naruto almost blitzing Madara.

Tree is made of mokuton, it doesnt have any durability feat. Im sure regular giant FRS or PS slash would cut it down. SA was planning to do that anyway.

Its irrelevant what you think would cut it down. The whole SA was trying to cut it down, but they couldn't. Naruto uses one jutsu, and bisects it. (Not to mention its the most massive thing in height and width that we've seen in this manga so far. A regular PS slash isn't going to do shit to it nor will a giant FRS.


We dont know for sure. Naruto openly admits he needs sasuke for madara and madara isnt much stronger then obito. So it makes no sense for you to claim that naruto or sasuke can beat jin Obito U_U

Madara is much stronger than Obito. Madara was much stronger than him before even becoming the Jin, so he'd be stronger than him after getting more Bijuus than Obito had as the Jin.


By this logic naruto shouldnt be blitzing madara. Simply as naruto's base speed is pathetic compared to madara and the power up from combined bijuus shouldnt give better results then whole juubi.

He got a power up from Rikudo and the Bijuu.

Or maybe it does as we dont know how much stronger madara initially was both are juubi jins after all, difference couldnt be that great.

Nothing implied that it made a difference, in fact Madara implied the opposite. So there is no difference, and Madara was much stronger than Pre Jin Obito.


What im saying is that current naruto and sasuke have no place above jin Obito, surely not until more feats U_U
Nothing to relate here except logic twilight zone you live in.

What hole? It was little grasp for crying out loud U_U. Madara's durability was appropriate for SM he was having. Logically this SM was over written by nature energy from juubi.

I don't care what you want to call it, a weaker attack did more damage to Obito than a stronger attack did to Madara. Meaning he is much more durable.

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He clearly was bisected.

Getting cut across your side doesn't mean you got bisected. Go look at the next chapter and tell me that he was bisected so I can laugh at you.

I am serious. Both Obito and madara being juubi jins make them of roughly same power, with minor edge to madara.

Wrong. There is no minor edge.

Naruto needing sasuke to beat madara clearly indicated he would need sasuke to beat obito.
Madara is way above Obito. Madara was way above Obito before even getting the Juubi, and was way above Jin Obito after getting the Juubi, and now he's way way above Jin Obito after absorbing the Shinju.
 

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I'm surprised to see you put BSM Naruto above Kabuto with Edo Tensei.


And I didn't see the need for you to put Hagoromo Otsutsuki and apparently Madara twice regardless.
 

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The list is seems to be accurate. But I prefer the characters to be named only once.
 
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