Dem Calculations...

[Mellanoma]

Making this thread due to all the claims on people moving faster than light, faster than sound, and all the other stuff folks say.

Here are some calculations for you:

Sound Speed(Mach 1) = 770 mph

Light Speed = 186,000 mi/sec or by the time you count to 1, Light can go around the earth 7 times.


With this being Said... There is no one in the Naruto verse that can travel faster than Light speed (I will explain) and there is only 3 abilities that is faster than sound in terms of distance ratio (FTG, body flicker, Ay V2).

Reason?

Since most like to use Anime and Manga images to explain speed and do there lulz calculations. I will do the same.

First up is Speed of sound.

Speed of sound is 770mph or 1130ft/s or to better put it moves at about 3 Soccer/Football fields per second. Going off feats there is no one in the series who can move 3 soccer/football fields per second
Although in terms of shorter distances (100ft or more from feats) Ay, Minato,Naruto, Gai(Gates), and Lee (Gates) and most other shinobi(50ft or less possibly) can break the sound barrier considering there is no sound when they shunshin
as the sound can not keep up with them.

Other than shunshin, FTG, or Gates nothing else moves faster than the speed of sound. Reason? If something else moved at the speed of sound then there would be no way of countering it since it literally moves
at 3 soccer/Football fields per second.

Next and my Favorite: Speed of Light

Alright there has been a lot of talk about speed of light and more specifically with Amaterasu, Tsukyomi and Minato/Tobirama's FTG. Although these things have an "instant" tag on them they actually aren't entirely instant... Reason? There brains and the process required to get to the "instant" part

As far as Tsukyomi and Amaterasu is concerned. There is a brief moment when

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. In that time frame Light can travel around the earth atleast 4 times.

As for FTG although, it is instant point A to point B the process to initiate FTG is slower than light considering the user Brain must process it.

Light takes 1 second to travel around the earth 7 times.

Meaning if Minato or Tobirama was to teleport from 1 place to another going off feats it takes him a moment to choose where he teleports to. In that moment for the sake of this thread I will say .5 a second which is generous
considering the

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and

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incident. Light could travel around the earth 3.5 times.

Finally... If someone moved at the speed of light in this series.. Then why do we see them? If someone truly moved at the speed of light there bodies would not move in our eyes since the time barrier would be broken and dilation would be infinite



For those bring up Lightning.. Please Remember the following:

FYI: Lightning(115,000mph) is Slower than Light(671 million mph)

The point of this thread?

Stop bringing real life physics into your Narutobase discussions since it will never add up in Naruto verse.

 

[kunde]

Thank you

 

[sagemode07]

Exactly. People shouldn't bring physics to any verse.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Just saying, Madara and Hashirama are in the Mach 140 range. Naruto by scaling would be far above that. Juubito is higher than that.​

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[Mellanoma]

Just saying, Madara and Hashirama are in the Mach 140 range. Naruto by scaling would be far above that. Juubito is higher than that.​

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Mach is not a measure of distance its a measure of speed lol

Also hashirama and Madara were not fighting at 107,800 mph...

 

[The7thHokage]

Whoever brings physics into such works of fiction is probably high, we can measure nothing from Manga or Anime.

Good job, mate.

 

[Xāvî1]

here chill up guys

[video=youtube;kAorciL41mc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAorciL41mc[/video]

 

[- J AV -]

Very nicely said..
People shouldn't bring real world facts or physics to NV

 

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

What the hell is this, a math assignment?

How does one even measure the exact distance being traveled by x/y character with just illustrations?

Whoever calculates this must be god tier in terms of intelligence.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

What the hell is this, a math assignment?

How does one even measure the exact distance being traveled by x/y character with just illustrations?

Whoever calculates this must be god tier in terms of intelligence.

People can do this, it's not that hard, I myself inlcuding some members here lol, and countless members on NF, MvC and other forums calc to determine exact feats, quantifiably. To determine DC and speed, Seems kinda retarded but it's done.

 

[Mellanoma]

People can do this, it's not that hard, I myself inlcuding some members here lol, and countless members on NF, MvC and other forums calc to determine exact feats, quantifiably. To determine DC and speed, Seems kinda retarded but it's done.

It's not really accurate though considering the illustrations can vary. After all.. Most people on here really think Hashirama and madara were fighting at 100k+ mph lol

 

[P3ĮÑ]

And not to mention on ur FTG remark, speed and teleportation are two different things, teleportation however involves no means of physical or bodily movement, it's instant, usually no speed takes place when ur teleporting.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

It's not really accurate though considering the illustrations can vary. After all.. Most people on here really think Hashirama and madara were fighting at 100k+ mph lol

People do this, since u can't tell how fast a character is just by looking at them, many forums use this concept to make it easier to deter speed feats among characters,

 

[KingHashirama]

And not to mention on ur FTG remark, speed and teleportation are two different things, teleportation however involves no means of physical or bodily movement, it's instant, no speed takes place when ur teleporting.

Speed, can be referred to time also. "the rate at which someone or something is able to move or operate."

So FTG technically does have a speed, since it takes some milliseconds to teleport from A to B, in this case FTG surpasses the Speed of light, just like Instant transmission.

 

[Wolfus]

Why did you use minato and tobirama? You do realise that their FTG is a teleport, it's not speed. So they don't actually travel.
They fold space-time in order to reach some place almost instantly. Of course, it takes time for the user to activate the jutsu. 0.5 seconds as you said. So, it depends on the distance. For exemple, let's say a distance of 6x10^8 m. Light would take 2 seconds, while minato could arrive to other marked point in less time.

Travelling FTL is indeed impossible.
Some stuff of physics can actually be aplied, such as energy, momentum, many others. But some can't, because it's fiction after all. So, if a person wants to calculate something, he/she must check if that principle can be aplied without breaking the logic of the manga/anime, show etc.

 

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

People do this, since u can't tell how fast a character is just by looking at them, many forums use this concept to make it easier to deter speed feats among characters,

even if the results are inaccurate? well anyways you guys are geniuses. i can't do this scientific hocus pocus. lol

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Speed, can be referred to time also. "the rate at which someone or something is able to move or operate."

So FTG technically does have a speed, since it takes some milliseconds to teleport from A to B, in this case FTG surpasses the Speed of light, just like Instant transmission.

Well yeah supposedly, teleportation has many different variations to it as well....

Teleportation is the ability of a user to move somewhere without physically traveling. The user thinks of a destination and can appear there at will. The user’s molecules may travel at light-speed or may be realigned mentally at target destination, may use quantum superposition, in which the user teleports by replacing and restocking energy in a spatial behavior. Some users disappear in a flash of light, sudden vanish, or even a strange cloud of smoke. It may be possible to take people/objects along with touch by means of static teleportation.

Variations:
Dimensional Transport: Phasing into a dimension at one location, and stepping out into another location.
Mechanical Transport: This is teleportation through use of technology, sometimes accompanied by technopathy.
Magical Transport: Teleporting without any kind of logical explanation
Energy Transport: Movement accomplished in which the user’s body's molecules disassemble at one point and come back together at another, may accompany or be accomplished by elemental manipulation and transmutation.

Applications

Supplementary:
Teleport out of harm's way.
Teleport great distances, reducing travel time.
Teleport pass walls and obstacles.
Teleport objects to another location, creating instant mailing.

Offensively:
Teleport objects into a target, causing telefrag, punching holes or bisecting the opponent. This can be considered a form of spacial slicing, as such ability cannot be blocked.
Teleport an attack back at the opponent.
Teleport an opponent to your front to intercept an incoming attack, defending yourself and cause the opponent's attempt to backfire at the same time.
Teleport a massive object above the target, letting it crash down to crush the opponent to death.
High-level users can teleport parts of an opponent away, such as removing a limb, internal organs, or even head, instantly killing them.

From verse to verse LOL

 

[Tobiramas]

Teleportation is instant. No need to calculate the speed of instant

 

[KingHashirama]

Well yeah supposedly, teleportation has many different variations to it as well....

Teleportation is the ability of a user to move somewhere without physically traveling. The user thinks of a destination and can appear there at will. The user’s molecules may travel at light-speed or may be realigned mentally at target destination, may use quantum superposition, in which the user teleports by replacing and restocking energy in a spatial behavior. Some users disappear in a flash of light, sudden vanish, or even a strange cloud of smoke. It may be possible to take people/objects along with touch by means of static teleportation.

Variations:
Dimensional Transport: Phasing into a dimension at one location, and stepping out into another location.
Mechanical Transport: This is teleportation through use of technology, sometimes accompanied by technopathy.
Magical Transport: Teleporting without any kind of logical explanation
Energy Transport: Movement accomplished in which the user’s body's molecules disassemble at one point and come back together at another, may accompany or be accomplished by elemental manipulation and transmutation.

Applications

Supplementary:
Teleport out of harm's way.
Teleport great distances, reducing travel time.
Teleport pass walls and obstacles.
Teleport objects to another location, creating instant mailing.

Offensively:
Teleport objects into a target, causing telefrag, punching holes or bisecting the opponent. This can be considered a form of spacial slicing, as such ability cannot be blocked.
Teleport an attack back at the opponent.
Teleport an opponent to your front to intercept an incoming attack, defending yourself and cause the opponent's attempt to backfire at the same time.
Teleport a massive object above the target, letting it crash down to crush the opponent to death.
High-level users can teleport parts of an opponent away, such as removing a limb, internal organs, or even head, instantly killing them.

From verse to verse LOL

Lord buddha, i just got a teleportation lesson.=D

 

[BazzBee]

-sigh- Calculations are used in debating; is considered the basics of debating on other forums. Just because Aizen travels from a fair distance to Ichigo in less then a second (1 scan) doesn't men that he's faster then Gokus kamehameha which in fact is shown quite slowly and steadier, yet its faster. This is figured out by the help of calculations.