Deidara vs War arc Kakashi

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Kamui is used only for defensive purposes.
Intel is manga
Distance is 15M
Location is a forest
 

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kakashi kills him faster than sasuke did. he needs open areas to setup any of his advanced bombs. 15m distance? he might even catch that blitz.
 

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-C3 can be warped.
-C2 can be warped.
-C1 can be evaded.
-Landmines can be seen and avoided, defused if need be (certain spots)
-C0 can be evaded by warping away with Kamui, or warping to Deidara himself since he can't be in the blast range as the bomb will affect him too.

So basically this match ends with Kakashi teleporting behind Deidara on his bird or wherever and one shotting with Raikiri. Kakashi stomps. People forget that he can do everything Obito can do aside from intangibility and close range warping. (which is replaced with the superior long ranged warping)
 

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So teleportation is allowed? Kakashi wins then, restrict it (he never used it much anyways) and Deidara wins relatively easily.
 

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Controversial Matchup considering the restriction on Kamui but Kakashi shouldn't kill him as fast seeing as he managed to evade Sasuke the first although praising his speed. Especially seeing as he could evade Team Gai with no hands for a short period. I see it being tough for Kakashi but he just might win if he's lucky

- Deidara takes flight and attacks from above. However Kakashi can dodge some or just warp them away or even save himself the effort by using Moguragakure no Jutsu like he did to evade Itachi's Firestyle.

- Attacks like C4 which require an awkward position like I've shown before would leave him vulnerable for something like a Kunai infused with Raikiri thrown at him.

I can see Kakashi evading his attacks but the only problem is taking him down from that spot with the restriction on Kamui...Though Deidara actually stated he trained his eye to battle the 3T(Not the MS which is an advanced level) and said he countered Sasuke's Genjutsu because he's that one before. I don't think he'll be able to counter the more advanced level if used on him.
 
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Controversial Matchup considering the restriction on Kamui but Kakashi shouldn't kill him as fast seeing as he managed to evade Sasuke the first although praising his speed. Especially seeing as he could evade Team Gai with no hands for a short period. I see it being tough for Kakashi but he just might win if he's luck

- Deidara takes flight and attack from above. However Kakashi can dodge some or just warp them away or even save himself the effort by using Moguragakure no Jutsu like he did to evade Itachi's Firestyle.

- Attacks like C4 which require an awkward position like I've shown before would leave him vulnerable for something like a Kunai infused with Raikiri thrown at him.

I can see Kakashi evading his attacks but the only problem is taking him down from that spot with the restriction on Kamui...Though Deidara actually stated he trained his eye to battle the 3T(Not the MS which is an advanced level) and said he countered Sasuke's Genjutsu because he's that one before. I don't think he'll be able to counter the more advanced level if used on him.

He knew Itachi had MS.... I doubt he'd train this whole time just for a lesser attack from his opponent.
 

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-C3 can be warped.
-C2 can be warped.
-C1 can be evaded.
-Landmines can be seen and avoided, defused if need be (certain spots)
-C0 can be evaded by warping away with Kamui, or warping to Deidara himself since he can't be in the blast range as the bomb will affect him too.

So basically this match ends with Kakashi teleporting behind Deidara on his bird or wherever and one shotting with Raikiri. Kakashi stomps. People forget that he can do everything Obito can do aside from intangibility and close range warping. (which is replaced with the superior long ranged warping)
You've finally understood Kakashi's power. You're one of us now.

Kakashi can also use close range warpig btw

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If by close range you mean warping objects/people inside the eye itself, then there you go. Long range Kamui would've sucked Kakashi too, so he actually didn't make a dimensional barrier in front of his eye like he does to warp himself, this time he sucked the tentacle inside the eye like obito does.

It doesn't change things anyways

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kakashi loses w/o kamui because of C1.
it will overwhelm him imo.

C2, C4 & C3 can be dealt w/ using rai'ton, not defensive kamui.
the latter would spell his doom from a tactical standpoint, neverminnd it being a fools errand
 

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War Arc Kakashi has the battle experience, reflexes, and speed required to counter Deidara's techniques, and with Kakashi's ability to utilize feints to exploit his opponent's abilities will enable him to win this match, especially when those ninjas have been shown to be superior with a rather unpredictable/ complex fighting style.

War Arc Kakashi is certainly at the level to counter Deidara.
 

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You've finally understood Kakashi's power. You're one of us now.

Kakashi can also use close range warpig btw

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If by close range you mean warping objects/people inside the eye itself, then there you go. Long range Kamui would've sucked Kakashi too, so he actually didn't make a dimensional barrier in front of his eye like he does to warp himself, this time he sucked the tentacle inside the eye like obito does.

It doesn't change things anyways

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By close range warping I was talking about Obito's warping, which Kakashi obviously cannot do. When he warped B he used long range Kamui like the rest of the times. Not sure how the bold makes any sense.

This time Kakashi's kamui does not look like any other time he has used kamui before. He sucked the target inside his eye itself. He didn't make a dimensional barrier next to the target like against deidara for example.

That's like Obito's warping

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This is long range kamui (dimensional barrier)

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One of them makes a dimensional barrier next to the target, and the target is sucked there, and the other one sucks the target inside the eye itself. That's my point.
 

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This time Kakashi's kamui does not look like any other time he has used kamui before. He sucked the target inside his eye itself. He didn't make a dimensional barrier next to the target like against deidara for example.

That's like Obito's warping

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This is long range kamui (dimensional barrier)

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One of them makes a dimensional barrier next to the target, and the target is sucked there, and the other one sucks the target inside the eye itself. That's my point.

What are you talking about? Kakashi isn't shown warping Hachibi. He's only shown releasing Hachibi, which is an entirely different function from warping. The only way he can warp is by forming the barrier, and that's how Hachibi was warped.
 

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People aren't taking into account the fact that Kakashi warping behind Deidara could easily result in Kakashi hitting a Nendo Bunshin that immobilises him. Kakashi wins very high diff due to Kamui's ability to warp C3 and his ability to evade C4 range via Kamui teleportation.
 

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People aren't taking into account the fact that Kakashi warping behind Deidara could easily result in Kakashi hitting a Nendo Bunshin that immobilises him. Kakashi wins very high diff due to Kamui's ability to warp C3 and his ability to evade C4 range via Kamui teleportation.

Which is why I think it can go either way
 

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Which is why I think it can go either way

Nah it's a low diff with kamui. Ppl act as though kamui is the only long range when he has clones plus a plethora of long range Jutsu. He already cannonly preexploded c1 with a kunai or similar. He is far smarter then sasuke and tactical. He seen a Doton hand sign and knew immediately, sasuke seen a Doton and guessed. Kamui makes it 100% his favor. With out it's a high diff win for him
 

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Oh didn't know Kakashi could teleport to Deidara...Thought it was only used for warping things thrown at him as that would refer to the defensive aspect.

- Kakashi warps to the Kamui dimension and warps his clone into the real world. Then he can use this trickery against Deidara in order to fool him with a lightning clone while he returns shortly to execute Deidara who'll reveal himself. If not, he comes at the same time with the clone and allows it attack first for safety purposes while waiting for a counter attack.
 

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Nah it's a low diff with kamui. Ppl act as though kamui is the only long range when he has clones plus a plethora of long range Jutsu. He already cannonly preexploded c1 with a kunai or similar. He is far smarter then sasuke and tactical. He seen a Doton hand sign and knew immediately, sasuke seen a Doton and guessed. Kamui makes it 100% his favor. With out it's a high diff win for him

What other long range jutsus will factor in this match up?
 

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People aren't taking into account the fact that Kakashi warping behind Deidara could easily result in Kakashi hitting a Nendo Bunshin that immobilises him. Kakashi wins very high diff due to Kamui's ability to warp C3 and his ability to evade C4 range via Kamui teleportation.

And then Kakshi warps away. Lol. No part of this match is high diff. Not even close.
 

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What are you talking about? Kakashi isn't shown warping Hachibi. He's only shown releasing Hachibi, which is an entirely different function from warping. The only way he can warp is by forming the barrier, and that's how Hachibi was warped.

No man, You're not understanfing what i'm saying.

When he warpis the hachibis tentacle, it goes right inside his eye.

Look at the first scan i posted. There's no dimensional barrier, Kakashi starts sucking from his eye like Obito does.
 

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People aren't taking into account the fact that Kakashi warping behind Deidara could easily result in Kakashi hitting a Nendo Bunshin that immobilises him. Kakashi wins very high diff due to Kamui's ability to warp C3 and his ability to evade C4 range via Kamui teleportation.

U talk like he's gonna be a dumbass and hit it with a punch like sasuke/naruto did? Or purposefully miss the heart? Naww fam that clone catches a raikiri on kunai and turns into a dud instantly.
 
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