Deidara vs Orochimaru

[AlphaMaleLion]

Deidara wanted to kill Orochimaru by him self, who wins this?

Starting distance 50 m.

Bloodlusted , only ET is restricted

 

[KidGamer65]

C1 and C2 aren't factors in terms of damage. Oro would shrug C1 off and C2 is healed from with Oral Rebirth. C3 can be evaded by burrowing into the ground/using Mayfly or tanked by using Manda as a shield. It took C0 to kill Manda so the vastly inferior C3 won't kill him in one shot, or Oro can go Hydra Mode to survive it as Hydra>Manda.

C4 is the only issue, however if this is Zetsu Oro he can sense and avoid the cloud of chakra that is C4.

Kusanagi Longsword of the Sky gives Oro the reach to hit Deidara even if he's in the air coupled with Oro's superior resilience and stamina gives him the win here.

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

C1 and C2 aren't factors in terms of damage. Oro would shrug C1 off and C2 is healed from with Oral Rebirth. C3 can be evaded by burrowing into the ground/using Mayfly or tanked by using Manda as a shield. It took C0 to kill Manda so the vastly inferior C3 won't kill him in one shot, or Oro can go Hydra Mode to survive it as Hydra>Manda.

C4 is the only issue, however if this is Zetsu Oro he can sense and avoid the cloud of chakra that is C4.

Kusanagi Longsword of the Sky gives Oro the reach to hit Deidara even if he's in the air coupled with Oro's superior resilience and stamina gives him the win here.

Really good statement . This are the answers i need

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

C1 and C2 aren't factors in terms of damage. Oro would shrug C1 off and C2 is healed from with Oral Rebirth. C3 can be evaded by burrowing into the ground/using Mayfly or tanked by using Manda as a shield. It took C0 to kill Manda so the vastly inferior C3 won't kill him in one shot, or Oro can go Hydra Mode to survive it as Hydra>Manda.

C4 is the only issue, however if this is Zetsu Oro he can sense and avoid the cloud of chakra that is C4.

Kusanagi Longsword of the Sky gives Oro the reach to hit Deidara even if he's in the air coupled with Oro's superior resilience and stamina gives him the win here.

This. Then you also have zetsu oro being able to merge wjth the ground and he should be able to travel through earth just as fast if not faster then deidara flight speed

 

[Zexion~]

C1 and C2 aren't factors in terms of damage. Oro would shrug C1 off and C2 is healed from with Oral Rebirth. C3 can be evaded by burrowing into the ground/using Mayfly or tanked by using Manda as a shield. It took C0 to kill Manda so the vastly inferior C3 won't kill him in one shot, or Oro can go Hydra Mode to survive it as Hydra>Manda.

C4 is the only issue, however if this is Zetsu Oro he can sense and avoid the cloud of chakra that is C4.

Kusanagi Longsword of the Sky gives Oro the reach to hit Deidara even if he's in the air coupled with Oro's superior resilience and stamina gives him the win here.

I really don't see a Kusanagi blitz hitting Deidara ever, and I wouldn't so broadly classify Deidara's damage.
C2 is still dangerous with the mines/exploding clones and missiles body replacement can only do so much for so long.
If Oro ever leaves the ground C4 ends this matchup, he can only move as fast as his summons which makes him an easy target for the smaller C4 variants.


OP: Deidara wins more time than not.

 

[KidGamer65]

I really don't see a Kusanagi blitz hitting Deidara ever, and I wouldn't so broadly classify Deidara's damage.
C2 is still dangerous with the mines/exploding clones and missiles body replacement can only do so much for so long.
If Oro ever leaves the ground C4 ends this matchup, he can only move as fast as his summons which makes him an easy target for the smaller C4 variants.


OP: Deidara wins more time than not.

It's range far exceeds what Deidara can escape and it can be freely moved around like a normal blade with his mouth or hands since he has access to them here. Deidara will dodge for a little bit but he's not dodging the entire time. He won't be able to set up his mines without Tobi's help nor is C2 a factor here. Sasuke w/ a jump and a 5 meter Chidori Eiso took out the C2 bird. Orochimaru with a several dozen meters long Kusanagi has zero problems taking it out.

How many times he can use Oral Rebirth isn't a factor here. Deidara doesn't have the stamina or the means to push Orochimaru to his limit even before the Zetsu body let alone with it. If C4 is used Great Breakthrough blows away the nano bombs and the giant version is simply evaded. Deidara has not even a 30% chance of winning this fight.

 

[Zexion~]

It's range far exceeds what Deidara can escape and it can be freely moved around like a normal blade with his mouth or hands since he has access to them here. Deidara will dodge for a little bit but he's not dodging the entire time.

Except we saw the longer it gets the harder it is to control, its not immune to the laws of physics Orochimaru used it on a downwards slope against Naruto which means the ground was upholding the blade, using it into the air is almost funny to think about. Combine that slow speed with its long winded monodirectional attack pattern and I don't see why you don't think Deidara will be avoiding this....are you saying its faster/quicker than Gaara's sand which he was avoiding?

He won't be able to set up his mines without Tobi's help nor is C2 a factor here.

Deidara has clones? He's feinted sharingan users on multiple occasions should Oro try and go underground to halt the Clone/Original Deidara from planting the mines he'd just be heading into the ones already planted. If Oro does fall for a clone feint,not only would he encounter the mines but Deidara's clones can detonate if he chooses.

Using clones there are multiple ways he could set these mines up, and if they are established using summons is basically pointless lol.

Sasuke w/ a jump and a 5 meter Chidori Eiso took out the C2 bird. Orochimaru with a several dozen meters long Kusanagi has zero problems taking it out.

Possibly, but he'd most likely aim for a wing and as I stated earlier using the kusunagi at such a distance UPWARDS will leave Oro open to getting smashed by a launched missile or Deidara himself who doesn't have to be on the C2 dragon.

How many times he can use Oral Rebirth isn't a factor here. Deidara doesn't have the stamina or the means to push Orochimaru to his limit even before the Zetsu body let alone with it.

This is debatable as he completely exhausted a CM Sasuke and I don't see how Zetsu body gives him an extreme amount of chakra. Its most certainly higher yeah but still...I'll admit the only chance Oro has is to outlast him or catch Deidara being arrogant.

If C4 is used Great Breakthrough blows away the nano bombs and the giant version is simply evaded. Deidara has not even a 30% chance of winning this fight.

How does he stop a

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used directly near him? Fuuton requires inhaling...?

 

[KidGamer65]

Except we saw the longer it gets the harder it is to control, its not immune to the laws of physics Orochimaru used it on a downwards slope against Naruto which means the ground was upholding the blade, using it into the air is almost funny to think about. Combine that slow speed with its long winded monodirectional attack pattern and I don't see why you don't think Deidara will be avoiding this....are you saying its faster/quicker than Gaara's sand which he was avoiding?

He hit him at an upward slope and then brought him down. [

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] So no, he can control it perfectly in it's extended state. That and Kusanagi can be used via telekinesis as seen during his fight with Hiruzen so this point doesn't really matter.

If he's on a small bird sure. If he's on the C2 Dragon, which he would be since you have him using C2, then no, he's not dodging this.

Deidara has clones? He's feinted sharingan users on multiple occasions should Oro try and go underground to halt the Clone/Original Deidara from planting the mines he'd just be heading into the ones already planted. If Oro does fall for a clone feint,not only would he encounter the mines but Deidara's clones can detonate if he chooses.

Feinting Sharingan users has nothing to do with anything here. Feints are used to evade and counter incoming attacks. Not to mention the environment and circumstances are what let him accomplish said things in the first place. He was 20-25 meters above Sasuke's position, and he used the time it took Sasuke to reach the ground to the bird to swap with a clone. He used the forest for cover to get away from Kakashi. None of those involve Deidara being the one on the offensive. If Deidara makes a clone and tries to send it under ground Orochimaru kills it himself or sends clones of his own after it.

Using clones there are multiple ways he could set these mines up, and if they are established using summons is basically pointless lol.

Then I suggest you actually tell us all what ways these are. Though it's not like it matters. Mines aren't strong enough to disintegrate Orochimaru's body or kill him in one shot thus Oral Rebirth will just heal him.

Possibly, but he'd most likely aim for a wing and as I stated earlier using the kusunagi at such a distance UPWARDS will leave Oro open to getting smashed by a launched missile or Deidara himself who doesn't have to be on the C2 dragon.

Nope. Orochimaru has clones of his own, has Manda, and has his own hands free since Kusanagi can be controlled remotely.

This is debatable as he completely exhausted a CM Sasuke and I don't see how Zetsu body gives him an extreme amount of chakra. Its most certainly higher yeah but still...I'll admit the only chance Oro has is to outlast him or catch Deidara being arrogant.

CM Sasuke and Orochimaru's chakra reserves are not comparable. The tech that took a lot out of Sasuke is the same technique Orochimaru spams during combat without feeling fatigue. Deidara has zero chance of victory. None of his techs except C3 and C4 can even kill Oro, and he can easily evade or counter both. The only thing he can do in this fight is try to run until he gets caught.

How does he stop a

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used directly near him? Fuuton requires inhaling...?

Ummmm. No. :lol Great Breakthrough is used by clapping your hands together as shown in Part 1. So no clapping is necessary. That and Mayfly lets him easily evade it. Mini C4 = Mini area of effect.