Deidara vs Onoki

[TRE MERCER]

I'm not referring to that thread. Our discussion is Manda vs Jinton and the bold is a baseless assumption. ​

Please disprove it since it's a baseless assumption? Manda didn't show any signs of shedding nor does Jiraiya have sensing abilities so explain ill wait.​

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[Beans2]

How when the body still would be there? Oonoki can't sense so he won't be aware that Manda just escaped his skin. Manda was already gone and judging by the look on Jiraiya face Manda skin wouldn't have been melted if he hadn't shed his skin.

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Onoki would see the Manda slide out of its old skin and direct his Jinton towards Manda instead of its shedded skin. Jiraiya didn't see Manda shedding its skin because the flames and smoke from Jiraiya's katon gave it cover. This is a simple concept to understand.

How Jinton which is practically his only means off offense. Deidara birds fly and dodge around Jinton into they blow him out the sky. Exploding clones C3,C4 etc. Is to much for Oonoki.[/IMG]​

What evidence is there to show Deidara's birds can dodge Jinton, especially when Onoki can move the beam and guide the attack to hit Deidara? Onoki's statement implies that he was going to hit Deidara with his jutsu from the range he was at.

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Actually Beans. That does make sense. Manda's reaction time was terrifyingly fast.. If he could completely (or seemingly completely) react to Jiraiya's assault unbeknownst, than Jinton would be even easier due to cast time. But, Manda isn't dodging via shedding skin, he's dodging by his once again horrendously quick burrowing speed, which he utilized perfectly within that fight.

Think about it man, it does make sense. Tbh.

Manda was hit by the flames, and while he was engulfed in the katon he shed is burned skin and wen underground. His burrowing speed is nothing remarkable, he did not go underground before the katon hit him.