Deidara vs Muu

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Muu wins.

Deidara's going to be awestruck by Muu's art.
 

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I'll continue to use Japanese words; well... Because I want to and dont have to stop. Though I'll put the enlish version in brackets when I reply to you from now on.




Sasuke also had an even more direct way of seeing them yet had to use Genjutsu to get away. You also didn't respond to how gimped Muu is while in Mujin Modō (Invisibility)​

I dont see why your being hard headed? I don't see the purpose of using the Japanese word for it and going through the trouble of putting the english version along with it in brackets... it seems your trying to make your posts sound smart or something... and what gimped? what do you mean?
 

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Deidara can win this via Nendo Bunshin which he tends to use in battle.​
No he cannot win this.

Muu can sense where the real Bunshin is, he kills the bunshin with his sword then he kills the other deidara.
 

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No he cannot win this.

Muu can sense where the real Bunshin is, he kills the bunshin with his sword then he kills the other deidara.

The real Deidara hides himself inside of a Nendo Bird so Muu won't be able to sense him just like the Sharingan couldn't detect him. If Muu comes close to kill Deidara, who happens to be a Nendo Bunshin, this happens.

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Gee Gee.​
 

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I dont see why your being hard headed? I don't see the purpose of using the Japanese word for it and going through the trouble of putting the english version along with it in brackets... it seems your trying to make your posts sound smart or something... and what gimped? what do you mean?

Because I perfer the Japanese version. Smart has nothing to do with it; I still don't see why you care and im sure as hell not going to stop because you said so.




Re-read the post that you quoted earlier; it got edited rebutting someone else.​

GG's all around.​

Fixed that for you.​
 

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The real Deidara hides himself inside of a Nendo Bird so Muu won't be able to sense him just like the Sharingan couldn't detect him. If Muu comes close to kill Deidara, who happens to be a Nendo Bunshin, this happens.

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Gee Gee.​

Muu splits himself leaving his other half to die.

Muu won't get caught because he's using his sword to attack not his fist/arms ect.

He can simply let go of the sword and keep the other one.

Gee Gee fodder boy.
 

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The real Deidara hides himself inside of a Nendo Bird so Muu won't be able to sense him just like the Sharingan couldn't detect him. If Muu comes close to kill Deidara, who happens to be a Nendo Bunshin, this happens.

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Gee Gee.​

There are some things you are not taking into factor of that scan, First off that tactic that Deidara used worked perfectly against sasuke because one he came into close contact, Second he chidori'd right through the clay clones chest which made him get stuck which left him vulnerable and open to that C4 by Deidara, now Muu has no piercing attacks nor hardly any close range attack that would prompt him to go so close to deidara and get himself stuck like that, Mu's best tactic would be to use jinton and wipe out the clone and the real deidara at the same time regardless if deidara is hiding in the clay bird he will get obliterated. Now let's say Mu goes in for a close kill and deidara uses the same tactic he did against sasuke, hiding in his bird and uses a surprise C4, unless Mu is stuck he can simply react and evade it with his sensing abilities safely by his flight mode.

also he can always use fission technique to duplicate himself and evade the c4 IF he gets stuck.
 

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Muu splits himself leaving his other half to die.

Muu won't get caught because he's using his sword to attack not his fist/arms ect.

He can simply let go of the sword and keep the other one.

Gee Gee fodder boy.

If he splits, he can't use Jutsu anymore. .-.

The real Deidara grabs his leg just like he grabbed Sasuke's leg.​
 

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Because I perfer the Japanese version. Smart has nothing to do with it; I still don't see why you care and im sure as hell not going to stop because you said so.

Sorry but it just seems a bit lame to me and it appears as though your trying to make your posts sound smart along those lines.. I see absolutely no reason why someone would want to use the japanese version.. idiotic to me and as I recall ages ago i never really you saw use them as you do now which further supports what im saying.

but whatever though.
 

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If he splits, he can't use Jutsu anymore. .-.

The real Deidara grabs his leg just like he grabbed Sasuke's leg.​

He can still go invisible. He only loses Jinton which isn't needed.

He has two swords, if deidara grabs his leg begging for mercy Muu can stab him in the head. Similar to tobirama getting ready to stab Madara.

Muu is a sensor he'll sense Deidara.
 

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Deidara has basically full intel on Muu, he wouldn't underestimate him as he has with others.

I'm leaning towards Deidara high diff. Dust release takes prep, while Deidara can send multiple attacks at once from different angles. The only feat I'm worried about is his invisibility
 

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Deidara has basically full intel on Muu, he wouldn't underestimate him as he has with others.

I'm leaning towards Deidara high diff. Dust release takes prep, while Deidara can send multiple attacks at once from different angles. The only feat I'm worried about is his invisibility

Its really nothing to worry about when one can't use Mujin Modo and any Jutsu that require chakra at the same time.​
 

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How is c4 ending this? Mu should be capable of sensing the chakra cloud and evading it with his flight speed shouldn't he?
This fight is technically against a Muu who cannot go invisible due to the things he would suffer from doing so. Mu isn't spamming Jinton since we have seen how chakra consuming it is when Onoki uses it. More so, the Jinton used by Mu will eventually be refrained. should be easily quick enough to reach Mu before Mu can use his Jinton, which requires prep. If Deidera does not decide to use C1, he can always chose to fight at a close distance, allowing him to use his birds swift movements to counter the incoming Jinton, as Deidera's C1 bird is indeed swift [ ]. This swiftness will be used to reach Mu's prepping Jinton before it is unleashed, and evade the Jinton incase it is fired for hypothetical reasons, meaning it is a defensive and offensive ability at the same time. That would mean the chances of Mu using Jinton are slim due to the fact that it creates such a great risk it would be aiding Deidera instead of Mu due to the the openings it would create. A short burst is easily dodged by Deidera, a longer burst is much harder to counter, but by then, Deidera's C1 would've long reached the Jinton and exploded. Furthermore, C2 can be used as a substitute, and still create a similar, but defined effect of what C1 would have achieved. C2 has bombs ready at the go, and released at a much quicker fashion and speed [ ]. What does this mean? Mu's only choice is to close the distance between him and Deidera and fight with the use of his swords. Hoever, that is a very bad idea that Mu will soon realise. C4 easily recreates the scenario it did with Sasuke. Nendo Bunshin makes this a 2v1, and Nendo bunshin being pierced by Mu will create the perfect opening for some nano-bombs [ ] that will indubitably be inhaled by Mu, as nothing suggests Mu will sense them, let alone realise why their's random chakra so tiny it is almost useless (presumed). He will literally have no idea what they are, whtehr he senses them or not. The only thing he will realise is the fact their's random nano-sized chakra in the air. Anyways, Mu isn't as fast Onoki to keep up with Deidara in flight, nor does he have the necessary tools to beat Deidara's arsenal. Invinsibily being used will make C4 an easy option, since Mu won't be capable of evading its AOE.
To conclude, Mu using invisibility is a bad idea as he is vulnerable. Mu using splitting abilities keeps him vulnerable to a lack of strength, power, chakra, speed, and a jutsu arsenal. Deidera wins this mid-high diff.
 

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There are some things you are not taking into factor of that scan, First off that tactic that Deidara used worked perfectly against sasuke because one he came into close contact, Second he chidori'd right through the clay clones chest which made him get stuck which left him vulnerable and open to that C4 by Deidara, now Muu has no piercing attacks nor hardly any close range attack that would prompt him to go so close to deidara and get himself stuck like that, Mu's best tactic would be to use jinton and wipe out the clone and the real deidara at the same time regardless if deidara is hiding in the clay bird he will get obliterated. Now let's say Mu goes in for a close kill and deidara uses the same tactic he did against sasuke, hiding in his bird and uses a surprise C4, unless Mu is stuck he can simply react and evade it with his sensing abilities safely by his flight mode.

also he can always use fission technique to duplicate himself and evade the c4 IF he gets stuck.

Charles, if you read you would have noticed that I stated 'If he gets close to Deidara that happens'. Of course he can fight with Deidara in a long-range battle. However, Deidara wins. Jinton is nothing in front of a man such as Deidara. As I stated before, Jinton takes time to charge up as seen in the manga. [ ] The user also needs to stay still while charging up the said Jinton, otherwise if they moved it would cancel out as seen when Naruto attacked Mū. [ ] With it taking that much time to charge up, Deidara can use a Shī Wan bird to take down Ōnoki since that bird is faster than the charge up time of a Jinton. [ ]

Using Jinton against Deidara is far too risky. Even if he does manage to fire it out by some chance, Deidara can evade it on his bird. As we have seen, the man had no problem evading Gaara's Suna. [ ] Not even three Shukaku Suna Arms were enough to catch him while he was on his Shī Wan bird. [ ] Deidara certainly doesn't lack the speed to evade that Jinton. [ ]

With his Shī Wan bird being that fast, he should have no problems at evading the Jinton. What furthermore backs up my claim is the fact that Deidara on his Shī Wan bird is as fast as Ōnoki, who was able to suddenly appear behind Mū who was flying back at extremely high speed. [ ] You may argue that Jinton is faster than Deidara on his Shī Wan bird while in reality, not is not. We have seen that Madara was able to escape the Jinton on foot [ ], leaving only a damaged part on his clothes. [ ] However, the Jinton managed to touch Madara only because Madara wanted it to touch him. [ ]

Sensing isn't gonna help him against Deidara suddenly popping out of the bird and grabbing his leg since he won't expect it at all much like he didn't expect Naruto's attack. [ ]

If he splits, he won't be able to use Jutsu anymore.​
 

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Charles, if you read you would have noticed that I stated 'If he gets close to Deidara that happens'. Of course he can fight with Deidara in a long-range battle. However, Deidara wins. Jinton is nothing in front of a man such as Deidara. As I stated before, Jinton takes time to charge up as seen in the manga. [ ] The user also needs to stay still while charging up the said Jinton, otherwise if they moved it would cancel out as seen when Naruto attacked Mū. [ ] With it taking that much time to charge up, Deidara can use a Shī Wan bird to take down Ōnoki since that bird is faster than the charge up time of a Jinton. [ ]

Using Jinton against Deidara is far too risky. Even if he does manage to fire it out by some chance, Deidara can evade it on his bird. As we have seen, the man had no problem evading Gaara's Suna. [ ] Not even three Shukaku Suna Arms were enough to catch him while he was on his Shī Wan bird. [ ] Deidara certainly doesn't lack the speed to evade that Jinton. [ ]

With his Shī Wan bird being that fast, he should have no problems at evading the Jinton. What furthermore backs up my claim is the fact that Deidara on his Shī Wan bird is as fast as Ōnoki, who was able to suddenly appear behind Mū who was flying back at extremely high speed. [ ] You may argue that Jinton is faster than Deidara on his Shī Wan bird while in reality, not is not. We have seen that Madara was able to escape the Jinton on foot [ ], leaving only a damaged part on his clothes. [ ] However, the Jinton managed to touch Madara only because Madara wanted it to touch him. [ ]

Sensing isn't gonna help him against Deidara suddenly popping out of the bird and grabbing his leg since he won't expect it at all much like he didn't expect Naruto's attack. [ ]

If he splits, he won't be able to use Jutsu anymore.​
no Muu wins low diff.
 

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Its really nothing to worry about when one can't use Mujin Modo and any Jutsu that require chakra at the same time.​

This is true, but some would argue Muu's invisibility accompanied w/ the swords he possessed when he was alive. Muu is aware of the backlash of going invisible and performing jutsu, so to avoid any complications he might use a sneak attack.
 

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This is true, but some would argue Muu's invisibility accompanied w/ the swords he possessed when he was alive. Muu is aware of the backlash of going invisible and performing jutsu, so to avoid any complications he might use a sneak attack.

Though Deidara typically takes to the skies. With intel on Muu and a bit of educated guessing based on that knowledge; he would realize that taking to the skies is going to increase his chances of winning exponentially.​
 

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Though Deidara typically takes to the skies. With intel on Muu and a bit of educated guessing based on that knowledge; he would realize that taking to the skies is going to increase his chances of winning exponentially.​

That's a possibility, which is why I'm leaning towards Deidara high difficulty. But Muu can quite easily if deidara acts recklessly
 

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Deidara can't see through Invis, so he gets his head chopped off by an invisible Mu. Or he gets Blown to bits by Jinton. Deidara stands no chance against Mu.
 
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