For one, Itachi hasn't been shown using Izanagi, therefore I'm ruling that out. Also, even if he could use it, we don't know the duration he could use it for, which means we couldn't use it anyway. Besides, you're all also under the impression Itachi can spam MS tech's all match long. Please, just stop it lol.
Deidara >= Itachi (Using Logic-no pun intended-)
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Sasuke tyeezy
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According to legend totsuka sword has no original/permanent form shall ifetch the page stating that.
did you need to call me an idiot cause I'm stating an unbaised opinion on what I see in the show? spider or w.e climbed out of Gaara's sand. So why am I an idiot to think a special ant, spider or underground clay animal can do it? you really hurt my feelings you should apologize.
hatake axel
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Itachi Uchiha
Amaterasu would be the biggest problem for Deidara as he as not shown something
to counter it. Range woulnd be a fact for Amaterasu as it can hit targets from a big distance.
Itachi also has Katons wich are good ranged techniques.i
Magatama is his long range susanoo technique and its pretty fast.
Itachi has a great aim (one of the best when it comes to aiming)
He could hit a traget on a blind spot behind a rock and he managed to blind all of Nagato's
summons in one barrage of shurikens during -Naruto, Bee & Itachi vs Nagato-
So you can see that he can fight long range as well. And has a big chance at winning as well.
If Itachi manages to get close to Deidara its almost an instan win because due to:
Genjutsu (Itachi can cast it by mere hand movement, and Sasuke showed Deidara can be put under genjutsu)
Sharingan Genjutsu (just like the one Sasuke used)
Tsukoyomi (do I need to esplain?)
Totsuga Sword
Exploting Clones
Itachi has also shown greater speed & better strategy,
as Deidara mostly fights in a way of performance rather than tactics.
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As for C3 susanoo would stop it, little explosions like those wouldnt get past even a continuos Rotation from neji ( saying it would be pssible
to make a continuos rotation) and susanoo alone its one of the best defences.
C4 is less than mountain buster and susanoo protected itachi from the mountain buster kirin.
Amaterasu would be the biggest problem for Deidara as he as not shown something
to counter it. Range woulnd be a fact for Amaterasu as it can hit targets from a big distance.
Itachi also has Katons wich are good ranged techniques.i
Magatama is his long range susanoo technique and its pretty fast.
Itachi has a great aim (one of the best when it comes to aiming)
He could hit a traget on a blind spot behind a rock and he managed to blind all of Nagato's
summons in one barrage of shurikens during -Naruto, Bee & Itachi vs Nagato-
So you can see that he can fight long range as well. And has a big chance at winning as well.
If Itachi manages to get close to Deidara its almost an instan win because due to:
Genjutsu (Itachi can cast it by mere hand movement, and Sasuke showed Deidara can be put under genjutsu)
Sharingan Genjutsu (just like the one Sasuke used)
Tsukoyomi (do I need to esplain?)
Totsuga Sword
Exploting Clones
Itachi has also shown greater speed & better strategy,
as Deidara mostly fights in a way of performance rather than tactics.
Edit:
As for C3 susanoo would stop it, little explosions like those wouldnt get past even a continuos Rotation from neji ( saying it would be pssible
to make a continuos rotation) and susanoo alone its one of the best defences.
C4 is less than mountain buster and susanoo protected itachi from the mountain buster kirin.
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Sasuke tyeezy
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Well as far as we know Itachi has beaten Deidara with no to little effort. Let's not assume that Itachi NEEDS Susanoo to counter every one of Deidara's technique, and if he needs to, the Susanoo can definitely defend against Deidara's strongest C4 tech as the yata mirror is said to have to ability to defend against all attacks (even changing its properties to match the attacking jutsu).
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blood hound
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It's weird how people are just siding with itachi right away....... I actually saw thy coming...... Diedera is a bad match up for itachi and it's true....... If itachi an diedera fight in an open space the fight would most likely be won by diedera___85%.... I well explain why???
Although itachi is a very unique and powerful character he is still a ninja with...... Although he is favored more it tends to blind people in there debate......... Remember this is an open battle field.
Diedera:
1) Is able to fly giving him the advantage in versatility and speed.
• by flying it would defiantly be hard for itachi to fight since itachi is not a long ranged figther, his genjutsu would be rendered useless, amutrasu would also be useless (The hand is quicker then the eye). diedera flying which is really fast and verstaily (We all saw the fight with garra, he dodge all those sand) is faster then then itachi eye...... Sasuke was able to dodge amutrasu just by running (He was far away that's what helped him) so imagine the speed and the distance..... It really fools the eye.
2) Diedera is earth element, itachi is fire, unfortunately you need lightning to best diedera's tech and powers.
• sasuke used his electricity based element to cancel dideras tech.
3) Diedera is actually one of the greatest tactician I have ever seen.
• his ability to figure out sasuke's chidori blade, his ability to properly diagnose the battle with gaara and set multiple traps such as clay bird and the insect inbeeded inside the sand (Didera new what he needed to do and thought in a long term). His ability to properly fool kakashi and Gai. Therefore he is a tie with itachi in planning for the battle.
4) Diedera has even trained his eye to see through genjutsu.
• genjutsu would be rendered useless however if he was caught in it, diedera would be able to see through it..... He won't spot it out quickly but still itachi has to go through the distance that diedera has put between him and itachi (By that time diedera would have spotted it out) and would have come back to the offense and defense.
5) Diedera jutsu are not as chakra consuming as itachi's.
• itachi's tech and capabilities are heavy taxing and put a strain on his eye (which gives diedera an opening) also itachi is sick.
6) Diedera's tech are very powerful.
• he has insects that can go under Sasunno, he has his ultimate jutsu which would destroy everything in a ten km radius on a molecular level. Also he has that jutsu that would enter ones blood system and explode from with in........ Itachi no lighting :/
7) Diedera didn't lose to sasuke
• Plot no jutsu...... Also it was a draw.
Although itachi is a very unique and powerful character he is still a ninja with...... Although he is favored more it tends to blind people in there debate......... Remember this is an open battle field.
Diedera:
1) Is able to fly giving him the advantage in versatility and speed.
• by flying it would defiantly be hard for itachi to fight since itachi is not a long ranged figther, his genjutsu would be rendered useless, amutrasu would also be useless (The hand is quicker then the eye). diedera flying which is really fast and verstaily (We all saw the fight with garra, he dodge all those sand) is faster then then itachi eye...... Sasuke was able to dodge amutrasu just by running (He was far away that's what helped him) so imagine the speed and the distance..... It really fools the eye.
2) Diedera is earth element, itachi is fire, unfortunately you need lightning to best diedera's tech and powers.
• sasuke used his electricity based element to cancel dideras tech.
3) Diedera is actually one of the greatest tactician I have ever seen.
• his ability to figure out sasuke's chidori blade, his ability to properly diagnose the battle with gaara and set multiple traps such as clay bird and the insect inbeeded inside the sand (Didera new what he needed to do and thought in a long term). His ability to properly fool kakashi and Gai. Therefore he is a tie with itachi in planning for the battle.
4) Diedera has even trained his eye to see through genjutsu.
• genjutsu would be rendered useless however if he was caught in it, diedera would be able to see through it..... He won't spot it out quickly but still itachi has to go through the distance that diedera has put between him and itachi (By that time diedera would have spotted it out) and would have come back to the offense and defense.
5) Diedera jutsu are not as chakra consuming as itachi's.
• itachi's tech and capabilities are heavy taxing and put a strain on his eye (which gives diedera an opening) also itachi is sick.
6) Diedera's tech are very powerful.
• he has insects that can go under Sasunno, he has his ultimate jutsu which would destroy everything in a ten km radius on a molecular level. Also he has that jutsu that would enter ones blood system and explode from with in........ Itachi no lighting :/
7) Diedera didn't lose to sasuke
• Plot no jutsu...... Also it was a draw.
deidara's nano bombs would finish off itachi since he doesn't have lightning jutsu. deidara said it was designed for itachi.
this is not gonna be an easy fight as most fanboys think. deidara can fly, itachi cannot. itachi cannot fire amaterasu while bombs are scattered on the ground.
this is not gonna be an easy fight as most fanboys think. deidara can fly, itachi cannot. itachi cannot fire amaterasu while bombs are scattered on the ground.
The God of Wind
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Ok I see some fairly good but incorrect arguments being used but I'll give it a go.
I'm siding with Itachi on this one if that's any suprise. Although its unlikely Deidara is beating Itachi. First of all Deidaara isn't planting any landmines in this battle at all. Deidara without a doubt will be taking this battle into the sky. The reason Deidara headed to the sky in the 1st place was because Sasuke nearly took his head off when in the start of the fight.
Itachi being much faster than Sasuke could easily blitz him buts that's another story. Landmines are out of the question. Second of all people are making a big deal about Deidara flying for no reason. Granted his bombs from the sky aren't even fast enough to hurt Itachi. The only problems would be the suicide technique but if the intent was to kill Deidara wouldn't last that long.
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If Diedara bird rlly becomes a problem. Toska Blade or Amaterasu is enough to send that bird coming down.
Deidara who believes he's mastered countered sharigan genjutsu is easily suspectable to regular genjutsu and Tysukomi which Itachi has no problem using.
All and all Id say Itachi takes this mid dif.
I'm siding with Itachi on this one if that's any suprise. Although its unlikely Deidara is beating Itachi. First of all Deidaara isn't planting any landmines in this battle at all. Deidara without a doubt will be taking this battle into the sky. The reason Deidara headed to the sky in the 1st place was because Sasuke nearly took his head off when in the start of the fight.
Itachi being much faster than Sasuke could easily blitz him buts that's another story. Landmines are out of the question. Second of all people are making a big deal about Deidara flying for no reason. Granted his bombs from the sky aren't even fast enough to hurt Itachi. The only problems would be the suicide technique but if the intent was to kill Deidara wouldn't last that long.
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If Diedara bird rlly becomes a problem. Toska Blade or Amaterasu is enough to send that bird coming down.
Deidara who believes he's mastered countered sharigan genjutsu is easily suspectable to regular genjutsu and Tysukomi which Itachi has no problem using.
All and all Id say Itachi takes this mid dif.
Blaze Release
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Lmao. First thing people need to grasp is that someone being stronger than their opponent and who defeats who are two different things. Just because ninja A > ninja B doesnt mean ninja A is stronger, many things determine a fight. If you want to know who is stronger look and each opponent as an individual and analyse their abilities instead of drawing up your conclusion on a match up.
Either case itachi is not only leagues above deidora he still beats deidora majority of the time.
Either case itachi is not only leagues above deidora he still beats deidora majority of the time.
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Dear,
Blaze realease
For some reason I can not quote you therefore this message would be directed to you.
I believe in the first part of your post, but not in the second.
Above you by a few posts I have stated reasons of why diedera would win........ It's not properly formated granted that I am using an iPhone.......... However if you could please do the same and say "shot my reasons down" probably come up with a better argument then I would most likely believe that itachi would win against diedera....... Remember this is an open battlefield with enough distance.... "Such as gaara's fight" would be an example
Blaze realease
For some reason I can not quote you therefore this message would be directed to you.
I believe in the first part of your post, but not in the second.
Above you by a few posts I have stated reasons of why diedera would win........ It's not properly formated granted that I am using an iPhone.......... However if you could please do the same and say "shot my reasons down" probably come up with a better argument then I would most likely believe that itachi would win against diedera....... Remember this is an open battlefield with enough distance.... "Such as gaara's fight" would be an example
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You're only stating Itachi's jutsu (which I'm well aware of), but aren't validating how they'd affect Deidara. You can't just say, "Ohh, Itachi has long-range tech's too, so he'd win". Do you not realize how high in the sky Deidara was when he fought Gaara? There is no tech Itachi could hit Deidara with other than Amaterasu (I've already stated how Deidara could counter Itachi's Amaterasu) if Deidara takes flight with his bird. Also to whoever said Deidara is incapable of planting his bombs, during his fight with Itachi, he made a centipede, allowed it to travel under the wood floor, and sprout up and wrap around Itachi (I'm aware this was in the genjutsu, but it proves Deidara can create clay creatures that can burrow underground). Like I said, give it up. Accept the fact Itachi isn't invincible and can be solo'd. I'm not trying to diss Itachi in any way, he's a monster, but you all are just making claims and not backing them up.