Deidara & Hebi sasuke vs Thee Sanin

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Team 1 wins. Deidara will lose high diff. Giving him Hebi Sasuke will give them an edge.
 

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Ill give this to The sannin Med diff, the only thing from team two that I see being troublesome is c4 if deidara can pull it off.
 

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Orochimaru is as fast as Hebi Sasuke, not to mention Sasuke already admitted inferiority, Orochimaru stomps Hebi Sauce, Tsunade amplifies Jiraiya's Katon and roast Deidara. Sannin low-medium difficulty.
 

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Sannin win this
 

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Ill give this to The sannin Med diff, the only thing from team two that I see being troublesome is c4 if deidara can pull it off.

Wut, I remember you debating once for Deidara against the Sannin alone. Hebi Sasuke being included would put it in team 1's favour.

Sannin win this




Hebi sasuke isn't changing anything.

Hebi Sasuke one shots Katsuyu with any chidori variant. Hebi Sasuke can fly as well, more airborne attacks coming their way.
 

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@Indra, indeed I was debating for deidara because he does have a chance to solo due to C4 and if he gets in the air fast enough but at the same time I wasnt ruling out the sannin's potential victory.
 

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@Indra, indeed I was debating for deidara because he does have a chance to solo due to C4 and if he gets in the air fast enough but at the same time I wasnt ruling out the sannin's potential victory.

True. But if he has a potential solo victory then that alone would make it a high diff. Adding Sasuke to the fight in my opinion ends it, but I can see where you're going.
Edit: And Jiraiya has no Ma and Pa, so it is even more in Team 1's favour.
 

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True. But if he has a potential solo victory then that alone would make it a high diff. Adding Sasuke to the fight in my opinion ends it, but I can see where you're going.
Edit: And Jiraiya has no Ma and Pa, so it is even more in Team 1's favour.

Well, okay the fight starts off and Deidara attempts to go immediately into the air correct? Jiraiya can counter by using his needle jazo manipulating to attempt restrain deidara and tsunade comes in for a deadly blow, but YOU might come at me with '' Sasuke will cut the needle jazo with chidori variants thus freeing deidara'' but I can easily come back with the fact that Orocimaru would be on sasuke's ass.

Alot of factors determine this, I admit I said deidara can potentially solo on a good day with c4 but the sannin can take it as well.
 

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Deidara can solo the sannin extremely high diff.

 

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Well, okay the fight starts off and Deidara attempts to go immediately into the air correct? Jiraiya can counter by using his needle jazo manipulating to attempt restrain deidara and tsunade comes in for a deadly blow, but YOU might come at me with '' Sasuke will cut the needle jazo with chidori variants thus freeing deidara'' but I can easily come back with the fact that Orocimaru would be on sasuke's ass.

Alot of factors determine this, I admit I said deidara can potentially solo on a good day with c4 but the sannin can take it as well.

Since when can Jiraiya use Needle Jizo without Ma and Pa. It has been stated they regrow Jiraiya's hair at insane speeds, without them he's useless in regards of hair jutsu. Chidori Senbon can also stop any attempt of it and it's nearly instant, allowing him to fight Oro after he's done.
 

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Since when can Jiraiya use Needle Jizo without Ma and Pa. It has been stated they regrow Jiraiya's hair at insane speeds, without them he's useless in regards of hair jutsu. Chidori Senbon can also stop any attempt of it and it's nearly instant, allowing him to fight Oro after he's done.

Orochimaru can take Sasuke, But i just read the restrictions again, And Sannin are heavily restricted so yeh team 1 wins.
 

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Orochimaru can take Sasuke, But i just read the restrictions again, And Sannin are heavily restricted so yeh team 1 wins.



Heavily restricted ?? With only Edo tensei restricted Deidara could still solo.

 

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Since when can Jiraiya use Needle Jizo without Ma and Pa. It has been stated they regrow Jiraiya's hair at insane speeds, without them he's useless in regards of hair jutsu. Chidori Senbon can also stop any attempt of it and it's nearly instant, allowing him to fight Oro after he's done.
My apologies, the technique is called lion's mane technique, I confused the two since they both involve the use of hair =D. Any way's the technique that I was referring to was Lion's mane technique that he used to restrain the rinnegan's crab summon[ ]. As I said before jiriaya will be capable of restraining Deidara if e attempts to go air borne, one may argue that Deidara will out speed the hair but regardless it's 50/50 regarding that situation(him getting restrained).

The most part I do agree chidori senbon can counter the needle jazo but as I said I did not mean to refer to needle jazo as I meant the lion's mane technique.
 

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Assuming Jiraiya and Tsunade start in base.

For starters Hebi Sasuke admitted he only beat Orochimaru because he was weakened. Orochimaru > Hebi Sasuke.

Jman's fire and Toad oil will shoot Deidara down.

Gamabunta also has is water techs he can shoot at Deidara.
 

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Mindset is bloodlusted? Deidara and Sausage win. Deidara will go to C4 right off the bat, and with no intel on C4 all the Sannin get killed.
 

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My apologies, the technique is called lion's mane technique, I confused the two since they both involve the use of hair =D. Any way's the technique that I was referring to was Lion's mane technique that he used to restrain the rinnegan's crab summon[ ]. As I said before jiriaya will be capable of restraining Deidara if e attempts to go air borne, one may argue that Deidara will out speed the hair but regardless it's 50/50 regarding that situation(him getting restrained).

The most part I do agree chidori senbon can counter the needle jazo but as I said I did not mean to refer to needle jazo as I meant the lion's mane technique.

Alright np. Although I still disagree with Jiraiya's hair being as significant as you are making it. If anything he can decide to put c1 in his hair in a sly manner as he did with Gaara's sand. Once it returns it will probably kill or heavily damage Jiraiya. Either way, if Jiraya does manage to not getting c1 in his hair or you have some argument against it, then Sasuke can always use a Katon and force Jiraiya to either a) die or b) expend all his hair and lose a huge amount of his kit. I fail to see anyway in which they can restrain team 1 from going airborne tbh, hence my opinion of team 1 winning.
 

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Alright np. Although I still disagree with Jiraiya's hair being as significant as you are making it. If anything he can decide to put c1 in his hair in a sly manner as he did with Gaara's sand. Once it returns it will probably kill or heavily damage Jiraiya. Either way, if Jiraya does manage to not getting c1 in his hair or you have some argument against it, then Sasuke can always use a Katon and force Jiraiya to either a) die or b) expend all his hair and lose a huge amount of his kit. I fail to see anyway in which they can restrain team 1 from going airborne tbh, hence my opinion of team 1 winning.

Good point regarding Deidara's mixing his clay with jirayia's hair but it wont be easy considering his hands and arm's will be restrained? Depending on how far deidara is also, Jiraiya may even see deidara mixing clay and react immediately. so that further backs up my statement of it being a troublesome task for deidara to mix in his clay bombs with jiraiaya's hair when he cannot use his arms nor hands, ( if I said anything wrong let me know since I am a bit rust on deidara)

As for sasuke using katon, orochimaru can simply counter by summing a snake similar to what sasuke did against deidara's clay bomb.




Any way's to counter deidara from going airborne, he first had to mold the clay and make a hand seal for it to activate.




During this time frame, this obviously keeps jiriaya or orochimari the means to attack. ( now those scans are only for deidara's normal bird, I am not sure if the process is the same for his other birds such as c2 dragon and etc.)

Now you said that deiadara can mix his clay in with jiraiay's hair, that is a possibility but . Now depending on how jiriaya restrains him he may or not be able to form the hand seal.

My knowledge on deidara got rusty so if I made any errors my apologies.
 
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