Deidara and Sasori vs Konan and Kakuzu

[~Ethereal~]

No restrictions, go, go, go!

 

[Praydara]

Deidara and Sasori. Either one could potentially solo, considering neither one have a counter for Sasori's poisons and Deidara's bombs and ranged could do away with them both.

 

[super yang]

konan hardcounters deidara

kakuzu hard counters sasori

U do the math

 

[Beans2]

Deidara and Sasori win mid diff.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Deidara solos. *waits for Zexion*

 

[Zexion~]

Deidara solos. *waits for Zexion*

No


However I don't see why everyone constantly pairs Kakuzu with the weakest akatsuki members

Kakuzu and Deidara are almost exact in terms of power and abilities. I'd give Kakuzu the edge more times then not. However come on Konan?

She's not a hard counter to Deidara because she's shown next to nothing that can hit someone as agile as Deidara. Just because she has flight doesn't mean anything. Her only chance is to get close to Deidara in the air but even if she did Deidara could just jump off and blow up the bird he was on ending her in the process. Not to mention Kakuzu would probably blow her out of the sky with his own jutsu

Only thing she can be used for here is surprise attacking those who are busy with Kakuzu's hearts. But with both the Artists intelligence being pretty amazing as well as their battle analysis abilities I don't see that happening.

Kakuzu beats them both alone but Deidara gives him high diff. Sasori a mid diff fight but together they beat Kakuzu High diff. Only high because Kakuzu does have the abilities to take on more then one opponent at a time. But his hearts can't avoid flying Deidara projectiles and crazy fast IS... They'd be forced to take the hearts out then focus on domu but inevitably they win.

Give Kakuzu Kisame and they win rather simply. Don't give a shit if his explosions have greater force underground those two together are monsters

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

No


However I don't see why everyone constantly pairs Kakuzu with the weakest akatsuki members

Kakuzu and Deidara are almost exact in terms of power and abilities. I'd give Kakuzu the edge more times then not. However come on Konan?

She's not a hard counter to Deidara because she's shown next to nothing that can hit someone as agile as Deidara. Just because she has flight doesn't mean anything. Her only chance is to get close to Deidara in the air but even if she did Deidara could just jump off and blow up the bird he was on ending her in the process. Not to mention Kakuzu would probably blow her out of the sky with his own jutsu

Only thing she can be used for here is surprise attacking those who are busy with Kakuzu's hearts. But with both the Artists intelligence being pretty amazing as well as their battle analysis abilities I don't see that happening.

Kakuzu beats them both alone but Deidara gives him high diff. Sasori a mid diff fight but together they beat Kakuzu High diff. Only high because Kakuzu does have the abilities to take on more then one opponent at a time. But his hearts can't avoid flying Deidara projectiles and crazy fast IS... They'd be forced to take the hearts out then focus on domu but inevitably they win.

Give Kakuzu Kisame and they win rather simply. Don't give a shit if his explosions have greater force underground those two together are monsters

- I love Konan, but she gets blown up here, badly. Deidara is too fast for her attacks, and conversely she hasn't shown the feats necessary to constantly evade Deidara's attacks. She can't disperse herself forever.

- Deidara is also too fast and elusive for any of Kakuzu's hits to land, especially when we consider the altitudes he can reach while flying on his bird. C2 guided missles can dodge Kakuzu's attacks bar Gian, and blow up the hearts with ease. The only heart that has shown the ability to fly is his wind mask, which makes sense because it has wings, but the other masks do not [

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]. Dropping C3 on Kakuzu's head is also an insta win, and C4 is overkill here imo.

Kakuzu needs intel to stand a chance against Deidara. The former solos this with med to high difficulty. I'll admit that Kakuzu beats Sasori.

Also, Kisame and Kakuzu don't partner up well, considering the attacks that Kakuzu uses and the nature of Kisame's fightning style.

 

[Zexion~]

- I love Konan, but she gets blown up here, badly. Deidara is too fast for her attacks, and conversely she hasn't shown the feats necessary to constantly evade Deidara's attacks. She can't disperse herself forever.

- Deidara is also too fast and elusive for any of Kakuzu's hits to land, especially when we consider the altitudes he can reach while flying on his bird. C2 guided missles can dodge Kakuzu's attacks bar Gian, and blow up the hearts with ease. The only heart that has shown the ability to fly is his wind mask, which makes sense because it has wings, but the other masks do not [

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]. Dropping C3 on Kakuzu's head is also an insta win, and C4 is overkill here imo.

Kakuzu needs intel to stand a chance against Deidara. The former solos this with med to high difficulty. I'll admit that Kakuzu beats Sasori.

Also, Kisame and Kakuzu don't partner up well, considering the attacks that Kakuzu uses and the nature of Kisame's fightning style.

Why does he need intel?

Anyways the wind mask is the only mask that has definite proof of its flight. So it can reach any altitude Deidara goes to, Atsugi is too large to be avoided by Deidara if shot close enough and his C1's are countered by the smaller fuuton its shown (Do I need scans?) C2 is not meant to halt an incoming attacker as its too bulky to turn and move with curvature, so once the heart moves past it its basically lost.

Thats only if Deidara goes up to higher altitudes as well, which means he won't be attacking Kakuzu at all or anything so its rather useless for him to do so. Thats merely one of his jutsu though the others are just as deadly when he heads back to earth.

Combine that with the fact that Domu counters C1 and C2. C3 needs prep and C4 is nullified because Kakuzu doesn't intake oxygen and its only high diff because Kakuzu has a hard time getting him down with clone feints and such.

Kisame and Kakuzu not matching up? Bruh... Kakuzu can survive underwater, in fact he can even simulate an octopus type body structure with his threads so having to avoid both would be incredibly deadly, Being snatched by Kakuzus threads only to have your chakara completely drained seconds later? Not to mention it nullifies the weakness of water dome being that Kisame can only go after one opponent. Now there are hearts posted around the WD for failsafes if someone does decide to escape and both Kisame and Kakuzu chasing each opponent down. Its a nightmare

 

[Amaterasu]

Konan can solo, papers GG

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Why does he need intel?

Anyways the wind mask is the only mask that has definite proof of its flight. So it can reach any altitude Deidara goes to, Atsugi is too large to be avoided by Deidara if shot close enough and his C1's are countered by the smaller fuuton its shown (Do I need scans?) C2 is not meant to halt an incoming attacker as its too bulky to turn and move with curvature, so once the heart moves past it its basically lost.

He'll need intel on the composition of Deidara's bombs.

Deidara's flight speed is as fast as Onoki's [

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], so the time that it'll take for him to fly out of Fuuton: Atsugai's range is going to be minimal. Meaning that he can dodge the attack, and subsequently blow the wind mask up.

The bolded: Based on what, exactly? These

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destroy any notion of that being true. The hearts haven't shown any feats that would allow them to evade C2 equipped with four wings, which Deidara noted are faster and more nimble than regular C2 bombs, which are a bit more linear. All they'd need to do is avoid the incoming attack, get within range of the monster, and "Katsu" GG mask.

Thats only if Deidara goes up to higher altitudes as well, which means he won't be attacking Kakuzu at all or anything so its rather useless for him to do so. Thats merely one of his jutsu though the others are just as deadly when he heads back to earth.

I never stated an altitude, and I don't know why he won't be attacking Kakuzu from long range considering that his bombs can fly towards his adversaries at high speeds, and only explode when he wants them to explode.

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surpasses his

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in both explosive strength and range, so nope.

Combine that with the fact that Domu counters C1 and C2. C3 needs prep and C4 is nullified because Kakuzu doesn't intake oxygen and its only high diff because Kakuzu has a hard time getting him down with clone feints and such.

Yeah, like 2 pages of prep [

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], so not enough to be significant. Once C3 drops down, its GG and there's nothing Kakuzu can do to avoid it. Earth Grudge Fear's range hasn't shown that it's extensive and fast enough to grab and pull down an aerial, long range fighter who was dodging Gaara's sand, and the latter is well noted for its speed.

Also, Domu having enough strength to survive multiple C2 bombs from C2 Dragon, one shot after another, is debatable.

C2 birds dodge Kakuzu's attacks and destroy his masks. Multiple C2 dragons or C3 destroy Kakuzu's body.

Deidara solos this with high difficulty.

Also, not breathing, which is something that there's no evidence for Kakuzu not having to do, doesn't mean that the entrances to his body are closed. C4 nano bombs still enter his body.

Kisame and Kakuzu not matching up? Bruh... Kakuzu can survive underwater, in fact he can even simulate an octopus type body structure with his threads so having to avoid both would be incredibly deadly, Being snatched by Kakuzus threads only to have your chakara completely drained seconds later? Not to mention it nullifies the weakness of water dome being that Kisame can only go after one opponent. Now there are hearts posted around the WD for failsafes if someone does decide to escape and both Kisame and Kakuzu chasing each opponent down. Its a nightmare

No evidence that Kakuzu can do such a thing, bruh.

Edit: C1 homing bird missles aren't C2, but it doesn't change my point.

 

[Zexion~]

You clearly haven't read the manga as there is evidence for all you said to disprove you lml.. So don't expect me to go all out

-Kakuzu uses same handsign as Deidara for Domu so he knows its earth release

-Ohnoki's flight shouldn't be all that fast he makes himself light enough to avoid gravity but that means he can't put much force into his flight

-I don't know what you think you're doing but those bombs you scanned are C1's which Kakuzu can tank easily only C2's Deidara has shown is the Dragon and the missiles it creates. Everything else is tanked and like I said blown away by Kakuzu's fuuton

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Also Kakuzu's fuuton is instant its not like it slowly creeps up to take that form of a giant half-sphere it literally causes massive pressure in all frontal areas at once, so again without something like pre-cog or sensing its a ***** to avoid

-Only mask Deidara can destroy maybe is katon mask... Maybe and thats if it doesnt merge with fuuton.

-There is evidence...Its called science I'll give you the incredibly short version. Kakuzu has hearts correct? Yet no lungs (Same with masks yet the heart still beats) Please realize you at least went to high-school as then it should be basic knowledge that without our lungs to filter out the toxins and such from the air and atmosphere breathing in would contaminate the blood stream and kill the heart so yeah... he doesn't take in that shit he uses a forbidden jutsu to defy nature as it says in the description

-Have you seen Kakuzu's long range mode? Again showing your lack of manga knowledge

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

You clearly haven't read the manga as there is evidence for all you said to disprove you lml.. So don't expect me to go all out

-Kakuzu uses same handsign as Deidara for Domu so he knows its earth release

-Ohnoki's flight shouldn't be all that fast he makes himself light enough to avoid gravity but that means he can't put much force into his flight

-I don't know what you think you're doing but those bombs you scanned are C1's which Kakuzu can tank easily only C2's Deidara has shown is the Dragon and the missiles it creates. Everything else is tanked and like I said blown away by Kakuzu's fuuton

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Also Kakuzu's fuuton is instant its not like it slowly creeps up to take that form of a giant half-sphere it literally causes massive pressure in all frontal areas at once, so again without something like pre-cog or sensing its a ***** to avoid

-Only mask Deidara can destroy maybe is katon mask... Maybe and thats if it doesnt merge with fuuton.

-There is evidence...Its called science I'll give you the incredibly short version. Kakuzu has hearts correct? Yet no lungs (Same with masks yet the heart still beats) Please realize you at least went to high-school as then it should be basic knowledge that without our lungs to filter out the toxins and such from the air and atmosphere breathing in would contaminate the blood stream and kill the heart so yeah... he doesn't take in that shit he uses a forbidden jutsu to defy nature as it says in the description

-Have you seen Kakuzu's long range mode? Again showing your lack of manga knowledge

Now we're resorting to petty jabs. I'm out, I'll just take your petulance as a concession. The only thing that's showing here is your profound bias. Bolded is the only shred of validity you have here, but will Kakuzu be paying attention to Deidara's hand signs, or the bombs coming after him? I wonder.

Also, my bad about the C1/C2, but they're still homing missiles, so that doesn't change my point.

 

[CM Punk]

Onoki is too old to be fighting in the ring. Dies in one suplex from Sasori. Kakuzu can fend off Deidara for a while, but the artists are a fan favorite, making me think they'd probably be set to win the match.

 

[Zexion~]

Now we're resorting to petty jabs. I'm out, I'll just take your petulance as a concession. The only thing that's showing here is your profound bias. Bolded is the only shred of validity you have here, but will Kakuzu be paying attention to Deidara's hand signs, or the bombs coming after him? I wonder.

Also, my bad about the C1/C2, but they're still homing missiles, so that doesn't change my point.

He has hearts to take away Deidara's concentration from him...
And profound bias? I've literally used no hype here... Its all facts lml whether you want to believe them or not

And btw its not petty jabs its merely being aggressive if you get offended by them well, steer clear of trying to prove any points around here

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

He has hearts to take away Deidara's concentration from him...
And profound bias? I've literally used no hype here... Its all facts lml whether you want to believe them or not

And btw its not petty jabs its merely being aggressive if you get offended by them well, steer clear of trying to prove any points around here

1. Your Onoki point is based on conjecture
2. You've posted no scans to prove anything about Earth Grudge Fear (who's not posting scans now?). I've read Earth Grudge Fear's description several times before this, and nothing that it has suggests that its capable of doing anything you stated.
3. Really, you've said nothing other than "REally lml have u not seen EGF long range mode lml u suck hurr durr". You didn't make any point in regards to that. The only thing I can determine is the fact that you're trying to avoid the points I made, and you haven't countered any of them.
4. He has 3 hearts that can't fly and won't be much of a factor, because Deidara won't take much effort to dodge his attacks, as I've already pointed out. You still haven't countered that.

So... yeah. Profound bias. Not everyone here is aggressive. Mostly, people are aggressive towards aggressive responses, and I tend not to be because it decreases the quality of one's posts...

Anyways, that's all I have to say, since this is my last reply.

 

[Zexion~]

I said from the start this wasn't that serious as its not the threads topic at hand lml.

You're asking me to post scans of what? That EGF can simulate octopus like features?

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Lml.... Scaned someones salty

My Onohki point is logic based on the physics its description describes.

The wind heart has shown to fly

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Others have been shown in the air for too long a time period and too far a distance to jump. So they can either glide/fly and again Deidara isn't doing anything from above.

In fact only bias here is your blatant dis-regard for feats and scans and common logic? As is the norm with you I suppose