Defending Rap/Hiphop

[Desanto]

naa man, rap is poetry with a beat, and any song by cash is good, but thats my opinion

Ok so what about a rap verse with a piano solo and some drums in the back? Is that still a beat? No, but its still MUSIC because of the piano and instrument pieces. Thanks for your opinion though

 

[-Punk-]

I don't like rap or care for the people that make it or made it .

Every genre has it's haters.

 

[AaaaNinja]

If your only defense of a genre is that people put a lot of time and effort into it, it's not going to sell very well. Anybody can put time and effort into anything. Putting effort into something is different from doing it well. Are there innovators in the genre? Is there anybody who you can name who can be considered a genius in their field? Is the genre the result of any social movements that were occurring when it was born, and how has it evolved into what it is now?

 

[Desanto]

If your only defense of a genre is that people put a lot of time and effort into it, it's not really going to fly. Anybody can put time and effort into anything. Putting effort into something is different from doing it well. Are there innovators in the genre? Is there anybody who you can name who can be considered a genius in their field?

I can name 10 hip-hop monsters who have made an impact on music and if you read this entire thread then you would know my defense was more than "time and effort". Come correct. By your logic then ALL MUSIC that requires time and effort is sh*t right?=D But what do i care, you're from Oregon. Rap isn't popular in a state where cops raid hiphop concerts because of its influence on teens even though rock has the same influence on them.

 

[-immortal-]

That was horrible, Simon Cowell would have said something worst. I can drop a sh*tty classical rock song just as your example. Horrible example man.

This is what an experience rapper would write-
The black rings define pain in her sunken eye sockets
She tries to wipe away the sleep inside her eye optics
she falls in to focus, as if the pictures clear . . .
Once again she tunes back in to the crude world she fears

n!gga thats what she said im not here for the first time im still at the top you can call that my prime
i have no Fear just a Spear where your head belongs
you can scoots now cause those are my rap songs

 

[Microsword57]

I see a lot of people don't like rap here. I feel like people are taking shots at my craft.

 

[Desanto]

I see a lot of people don't like rap here. I feel like people are taking shots at my craft.

Do you rap? =D

 

[Microsword57]

Do you rap? =D

Doesn't Everybody. To Answer your question yes.

 

[Desanto]

Doesn't Everybody. To Answer your question yes.

Yes but there's those who aren't any good at it which is MOST

 

[-Blade-]

Rap isnt what it used to be with stupid artists like Wayne, Drake, YMCMB, A$AP, and all these other idiots on the radio... Some artists are good such as Eminem, Hopsin, Yelawolf, B.O.B, Tech N9ne, and a few more but overall it kinda sucks now compared to abot 8-10 years ago

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

You guys are horrible. I will make you love rap, like I do. Now behold, my unparalleled lyrics.

Spoiler

What is green with wheels?

Grass, I lied about the wheels.

how do you feel?

Kk

You're welcome.

 

[Desanto]

Rap isnt what it used to be with stupid artists like Wayne, Drake, YMCMB, A$AP, and all these other idiots on the radio... Some artists are good such as Eminem, Hopsin, Yelawolf, B.O.B, Tech N9ne, and a few more but overall it kinda sucks now compared to abot 8-10 years ago

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you but there's a lot of new artists bringing it back (i hope) I suppose mainstream rap is garbage I wont lie but Hiphop is soo much more than just mainstream.

 

[Microsword57]

Yes but there's those who aren't any good at it which is MOST

I Definitely Agree.

 

[2nd hokage]

I love this spit fluck everybody. ready to go like eddie money.flows and beats be tugging on me.your mom jumps sticks we think its funny. Everyone stop hatin on styles not there own flows beats hooks its all music rap hip hop rock country blues are related a family tree. Respect to all who put out something even the basic like mine. On music again if you love one you love all as they are the same from one style to the next they all share the same basic begining people putting there feelings or thoughts to a beat.

 

[AaaaNinja]

I can name 10 hip-hop monsters who have made an impact on music and if you read this entire thread then you would know my defense was more than "time and effort". Come correct. By your logic then ALL MUSIC that requires time and effort is sh*t right?=D But what do i care, you're from Oregon. Rap isn't popular in a state where cops raid hiphop concerts because of its influence on teens even though rock has the same influence on them.

It sounds like your only understanding of Oregon is some kind of stereotype that an Oregonian herself is not aware of. If you're talking about the Teen Dance Ordinance, that was a law in Seattle, many hundreds of miles away in a different state entirely. And it ended an entire decade ago.

If what you say about Oregon is really true, then a hip-hop enthusiast and retired artist

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. University of Oregon teaches Hip-Hop history and culture classes. In my lifetime I do not recall a single cop raid on a hip-hop concert and I live in Portland, which would be the hub of such activities. University of Oregon is in Eugene, a much more rural and conservative place. If you weren't such a cynical person who thought people's attitude around here was a reflection of how things really are in the world, you wouldn't be starting a thread like this.

 

[NarutoIndra]

I prefer rap over any other genre. I believe it's the most lyrical and time consuming, thus the hardest work necessary. It also requires lots of intelligence, as creating large quantities of metaphors, rhyme scheme, subliminal meanings, and repetition all take lots of skill and imagination. Furthermore, once all the procrastinating and writing is complete, they still have to find a beat and have a good flow between their lyrics and the beat. I believe rap is superior to the other genres, but that is simply my opinion and point of view, I may be incorrect, but I have not much knowledge on the other genres which I often disregard.

 

[Desanto]

It sounds like your only understanding of Oregon is some kind of stereotype that an Oregonian herself is not aware of. If you're talking about the Teen Dance Ordinance, that was a law in Seattle, many hundreds of miles away in a different state entirely.

If what you say about Oregon is really true, then a hip-hop enthusiast and retired artist

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. University of Oregon teaches Hip-Hop history and culture classes. In my lifetime I do not recall a single cop raid on a hip-hop concert and I live in Portland, which would be the hub of such activities. University of Oregon is in Eugene, a much more rural and conservative place. If you weren't such a cynical person who thought people's attitude around here was a reflection of how things really are in the world, you wouldn't be starting a thread like this.

Ok honestly I really liked your response, liked, but how the hell am I being cynical? I posted this thread as a reply to the hiphop haters in and out of NB NOT a response to Oregon's views on it. you're crazy lol and just so you know, I'm moving to Portland Oregon within the next few months but my understanding of Oregon ( told to me by residents in Oregon) is that the police do everything in their power to shut down hiphop concerts so much so that I worry if my own rap career will even be successful when I do move( not moving based on music or anything) That being said, the way i feel is understandable. So correct me if I'm wrong because I would love to move to Oregon knowing that I can at least listen to rap music publicly without being looked at funny. honestly that would be great.

 

[AaaaNinja]

Ok honestly I really liked your response, liked, but how the hell am I being cynical? I posted this thread as a reply to the hiphop haters in and out of NB NOT a response to Oregon's views on it. you're crazy lol and just so you know, I'm moving to Portland Oregon within the next few months but my understanding of Oregon ( told to me by residents in Oregon) is that the police do everything in their power to shut down hiphop concerts so much so that I worry if my own rap career will even be successful when I do move( not moving based on music or anything) That being said, the way i feel is understandable. So correct me if I'm wrong because I would love to move to Oregon knowing that I can at least listen to rap music publicly without being looked at funny. honestly that would be great.

Okay, that's cool then. I hope you do well, let us know how it goes.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Really though all current music is pretty bad as compared to previous generations.

Across multiple genres you hear stupidity and that stems from the internet and making learning how to play instruments easier, as well as the advancement in technology to help with pitch and creating tracks a lot easier than before. Almost anyone can do it, when that many people have a pencil and sketchbook your going to see a lot of bad drawings. I've played and worked with so many tone deaf artists it's ridiculous.

Music was better in previous generations because:
1. You had to really want to learn because there weren't as many sources of obtaining the basics
2. You had to actually train your ear to recognize the textures of notes to create chords and to play on key
3. Everyone that was popular and making money from music were extremely talented, which killed a lot of peoples dreams
4. People didn't lie to you as much, if you were bad people would tell you. Now people don't want to hurt peoples feelings or seem like a hater, just incase the person does make it because so many sucky people do.

I wouldn't say rap is bad, it's just really bad now which applies to most genres. There are actually gems in the ruff but it takes a lot of digging through crap to find.

 

[warpathixclan]

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