Debunking Naruto Claims

[To Whatever]

doesnt matter who woke up first if no one can even move...they were both knocked down and couldnt fight anymore...draw

Lets be real. Out of those two. Which one has a stronger life force and would have bled out and died much later?

I'm putting my money on the Jinchuriki with an Uzumaki Lineage.

I don't get why people are trying to make Sasuke's Loss in ideals only. He lost much more than that in that fight.

 

[3MESSIAH]

Lets be real. Out of those two. Which one has a stronger life force and would have bled out and died much later?

I'm putting my money on the Jinchuriki with an Uzumaki Lineage.

even if naruto lasted a bit longer he would still die

my point is the fight ended when they were unable to move....

 

[To Whatever]

even if naruto lasted a bit longer he would still die

my point is the fight ended when they were unable to move....

Probably. But given the circumstances he would probably be fine if Sasuke died first. The CT would be released and Kurama would probably be awake around that time.

Pretty sure that was a deathmatch given Sasuke's intent to kill. Sasuke conceded after he lost that arm though.

 

[Berserker]

Probably. But given the circumstances he would probably be fine if Sasuke died first. The CT would be released and Kurama would probably be awake around that time.

Pretty sure that was a deathmatch given Sasuke's intent to kill. Sasuke conceded after he lost that arm though.

Yeah sure Sasuke would died first. Life force obviously means you have magical power to stop your body from bleeding out LOL

 

[To Whatever]

Yeah sure Sasuke would died first. Life force obviously means you have magical power to stop your body from bleeding out LOL

Apparently.

Kushina went through child birth and had a monster torn out of her. Then got impaled by a massive claw. That destroyed her spine and tore her insides to pieces. All while stopping the claw from reaching her son.

To make it worse, she started talking

I mean if that shit isn't lifeforce then what is?

I mean Asuma got stabbed in the heart and lasted longer than Sasuke when Madara negged him.

 

[Berserker]

Apparently.

Kushina went through child birth and had a monster torn out of her. Then got impaled by a massive claw.

I mean if that shit isn't lifeforce then what is?

Bleeding out equates to dieing, life force doesn't prevent that from happening. They're still human after all. Life force helps you live a longer life as you age and maybe a tolerance for pain.

 

[3MESSIAH]

Probably. But given the circumstances he would probably be fine if Sasuke died first. The CT would be released and Kurama would probably be awake around that time.

Pretty sure that was a deathmatch given Sasuke's intent to kill. Sasuke conceded after he lost that arm though.

i do agree naruto would last longer however i dont believe kurama would be able to do anything to help especially outside naruto`s body

 

[To Whatever]

Bleeding out equates to dieing, life force doesn't prevent that from happening. Life force helps you live a longer life as you age and maybe a tolerance for pain.

What does being impaled equate to dying in terms of life force then?

Or when Asuma had his heart stabbed through?

What is that then if it isn't life force?

i do agree naruto would last longer however i dont believe kurama would be able to do anything to help especially outside naruto`s body

I don't know about that. They could have done something the moment CT was released.

 

[Berserker]

What does being impaled equate to dying in terms of life force then?

Or when Asuma had his heart stabbed through?

What is that then?

What does this have to do with bleeding out. Your body needs blood to function. Without blood you die. Minato, Kushina and Asuna were impaled and were dieing slowly. They didn't lose enough blood at the time just yet to die instantly.

 

[To Whatever]

What does this have to do with bleeding out. Your body needs blood to function. Without blood you die. Minato, Kushina and Asuna were impaled and were dieing slowly. They didn't lose enough blood at the time just yet to die instantly.

There's a Massive hole where your torso used to be. How much blood do you think she lost?

Also, Asuma was bleeding on the inside.

 

[3MESSIAH]

What does being impaled equate to dying in terms of life force then?

Or when Asuma had his heart stabbed through?

What is that then if it isn't life force?




I don't know about that. They could have done something the moment CT was released.

i have a feeling it might be too late,who knows

 

[Narutrol]

What does being impaled equate to dying in terms of life force then?

Or when Asuma had his heart stabbed through?

What is that then if it isn't life force?




I don't know about that. They could have done something the moment CT was released.

Why are you assuming ct would release? Sasuke was out of chakra and passed out, yet they were still trapped like rats. Just like those in IT are being trapped despite kaguya had been sealed away an madara ing dead and off jubi chakra

 

[Berserker]

There's a Massive hole where your torso used to be. How much blood do you think she lost?

Also, Asuma was bleeding on the inside.

Minato was also impaled by that attack and despite being an Uzamaki he still performed the jutsus to seal Kurama. The blood loss would have only been major once Kurama removed his claw from their torsos. It's like stabbing someone with a sword but they'll only die from blood loss once it's removed. Sasuke vs Madara was a good example.

 

[To Whatever]

Why are you assuming ct would release? Sasuke was out of chakra and passed out, yet they were still trapped like rats. Just like those in IT are being trapped despite kaguya had been sealed away an madara ing dead and off jubi chakra

Because CT is consistent until the user either dies or releases it.

No one knows how IT fully works. Not to mention the requirements for it is much greater than CT.

If Sasuke was completely out of chakra he would have died.

Minato was also impaled by that attack and despite being an Uzamaki he still performed the jutsus to seal Kurama. The blood loss would have only been major once Kurama removed his claw from their torsos. It's like stabbing someone with a sword but they'll only die from blood loss once it's removed. Sasuke vs Madara was a good example.

That sword isn't the size of Kurama's claw though.

Everything in their torso was destroyed, ruptured or crushed, including the lungs and heart.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

Naruto was almost out of bijuu and his own chakra no life force would've saved him from bleeding to death.

 

[To Whatever]

Naruto was almost out of bijuu and his own chakra no life force would've saved him from bleeding to death.

No one is saying that...

I'm just stating he would have died much later than Sasuke.

 

[Berserker]

That sword isn't the size of Kurama's claw though.

So are you saying Minato has Uzamaki life force as well because his torso was blown out in that attack too? You don't seem to get how blood loss means you die as long as you're still human. Unless you can prove to me in the manga that life force means you can survive blood loss more than the average human....

Kushina only loss about the same amount as blood as Minato did when Kurama attacked them. Sasuke and Madara are perfect examples because A. Did Sasuke die when he was impaled by his sword no.

B. Did he die from blood loss once Madara removed his sword ofc because he started to bleed out.

C. Same happened with Madara vs Hashirama.
The same would happen for anyone as far as I can tell.

 

[Narutrol]

Because CT is consistent until the user either dies or releases it.

No one knows how IT fully works. Not to mention the requirements for it is much greater than CT.

If Sasuke was completely out of chakra he would have died.




That sword isn't the size of Kurama's claw though.

Sasuke didn't even have chakra to keep three tomes, use chidori nor to stay away. Yet he can maintain his bijuu genjutsu and cts perfectly? Its pretty obviously they are not going anywhere like IT

And when we all seem to figured out how cts works, sasuke made it coreless. And when we seem to figure how genjutsu works, sasuke solo glanced all bijuu without eye contact at all(which is like IT)

So what sasuke does is not clear to us like IT, and like IT that they have been set out individually. There's no hint at all in the chapters that stated how sasuke's techniques are different than IT that it would break when the user is lost. And its plain clear that all bijuus are trapped while sasuke couldn't move and bleeding to death

 

[To Whatever]

So are you saying Minato has Uzamaki life force as well because his torso was blown out in that attack too? You don't seem to get how blood loss means you die as long as you're still human. Unless you can prove to me in the manga that life force means you can survive blood loss more than the average human....

Kushina only loss about the same amount as blood as Minato did when Kurama attacked them. Sasuke and Madara are perfect examples because A. Did Sasuke die when he was impaled by his sword no.

B. Did he die from blood loss once Madara removed his sword ofc because he started to bleed out.

C. Same happened with Madara vs Hashirama.
The same would happen for anyone as far as I can tell.

No. Minato didn't go through what Kushina did prior to being impaled. He didn't:

Maintain the grunt work of the seal during childbirth
Have a Tailed beast torn out of him
Restrain a tailed beast


You seem to be under the impression that I think life force means you can survive bleeding out. I'm stating a strong life force allow you to sustain fatal damage longer than the average person.

Having your organs destroyed>>>>>>>>>Bleeding out.

Karin had her shit exploded through and didn't go into shock or die on the spot.

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That's life force.​

 

[Ambivalence]

The main points you're trying to get across are understandable, but the way you debunk them isn't really what I'd call solid. I'm gonna post what I don't agree with in a minute or two.