Debunking claims that Chidori spear>>>>>Rasenshuriken.

[Darth AniCetuS]

That makes no sense since on impact the shurules releases energy which damages on a cellar level so it should have slice right through it doesn't matter if your in the air or not.
Besides Rasen shuriken is no match for spear techniques the example I'd give is 3rd Raikage''s nukite it clearly pierces his armour yet shuriken barely scratches him.
Let's leave fapboyism at the door.

Lol, its clearly evident he got pushed back by the force of the RS as it expanded before getting cut by it.
So yeah leave the fapboyism at the door.

 

[Detonator99]

You misunderstand. Only chakra-based cloaks give you a strong increase in durability. An example of this is Naruto's 1 Tail Form throughout until his 6-Tail Form, as well as his Nine-Tails Chakra Mode. Cloaks that look like physical-clothing, like Six Paths Sage Mode, don't offer that protection.

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And exactly what diference does six path naruto from gaiden has with the ninetails cloak besides the fact that he clearly more durable? He had it covered even his skin its literally no diferent from the others previous cloak.

And the same thing can be said with juubidara that only has a clothing cloak he can also enhance his body as same as the shinobis such as:
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Or even kid naruto

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this happened in the manga am just to lazy to look for the scans.

Yet naruto was capable of enhance himself to the the point were he can tank gaara sand shuriken

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That are stated to be able to easily cut through steel in the databook and shown to able to cut through trees in the manga

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NINJUTSU; Suna Shuriken (Shuriken of Sand) User: Gaara Offensive; Close, Medium ranges; Rank: none Main text A jutsu used by Gaara while in the process of transforming into his perfect form. He shapes the sand composing his arms into countless shuriken, and he swings them both! Taking advantage of that formidable centrifugal force, the fired blades of sand change into biting, dangerous weapons! The caster creates and fires an uninterrupted succession of sand rounds, tearing everything in sight to pieces as they wildly fly about... Before this fierce attack, closing in on the caster is pure foolishness, and even fleeing is equally unfeasible.

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-The sharp blades of sand fly wildly, as an emission that splits apart the air!!
-Those blades Gaara launches are his hatred and killing intent...!! Picture comment
-Strange, dangerous weapons appear on the surface of his arms... His uncannily strong arms gives them furious speed. The solidified sand rounds eclipse even steel with their might!!

He looks cut in half to me.

Too bad he isn't, that was only his stomach that was cut and it dint completely bisect him.
Even worse is the fact that sasuke bisect madara after he absorved the shinju meaning he was more durable.

So all this just points out that madara allowed to get cut by not enhancing himself.

 

[Holy God]

And exactly what diference does six path naruto from gaiden has with the ninetails cloak besides the fact that he clearly more durable? He had it covered even his skin its literally no diferent from the others previous cloak.

The difference is that one is for mere clothing and the other is for protection. 4-Tails Form Naruto can't be pierced by Orochimaru's sword but Six Paths Sage Mode Naruto can.

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Invalid. Sage Mode increases your durability unconsciously. You do not alter it. This is shown in your last image. The chakra rod comparison is also invalid. In one his is pierced and in the other he breaks it.

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His right side, the one with Hashirama's DNA, obviously is stronger.

Or even kid naruto

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this happened in the manga am just to lazy to look for the scans.

Yet naruto was capable of enhance himself to the the point were he can tank gaara sand shuriken

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That are stated to be able to easily cut through steel in the databook and shown to able to cut through trees in the manga

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NINJUTSU; Suna Shuriken (Shuriken of Sand) User: Gaara Offensive; Close, Medium ranges; Rank: none Main text A jutsu used by Gaara while in the process of transforming into his perfect form. He shapes the sand composing his arms into countless shuriken, and he swings them both! Taking advantage of that formidable centrifugal force, the fired blades of sand change into biting, dangerous weapons! The caster creates and fires an uninterrupted succession of sand rounds, tearing everything in sight to pieces as they wildly fly about... Before this fierce attack, closing in on the caster is pure foolishness, and even fleeing is equally unfeasible.

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-The sharp blades of sand fly wildly, as an emission that splits apart the air!!
-Those blades Gaara launches are his hatred and killing intent...!! Picture comment
-Strange, dangerous weapons appear on the surface of his arms... His uncannily strong arms gives them furious speed. The solidified sand rounds eclipse even steel with their might!!

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Too bad he isn't, that was only his stomach that was cut and it dint completely bisect him.
Even worse is the fact that sasuke bisect madara after he absorved the shinju meaning he was more durable.

So all this just points out that madara allowed to get cut by not enhancing himself.

He isn't completely cut through because you say so? You do know Madara can regenerate, right?

 

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Well, RSM Naruto withstood the force of Kaguya's stalagmites crashing in him from every angle.

 

[Detonator99]

The difference is that one is for mere clothing and the other is for protection. 4-Tails Form Naruto can't be pierced by Orochimaru's sword but Six Paths Sage Mode Naruto can.

Like i said its not just clothing Its also in his skin

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why are trying so hard to deny it? :lol

Invalid. Sage Mode increases your durability unconsciously. You do not alter it. This is shown in your last image.

So it can't be because of the fact that sage mode saw the spike so he had to enhance himself?Reason why he was saying "owowowow" before realizing that it doesn't hurt him at all.

The chakra rod comparison is also invalid. In one his is pierced and in the other he breaks it.

It doesn't change the fact that he stoped the blade with his hand.

His right side, the one with Hashirama's DNA, obviously is stronger.

Is that why we can see his hashirama hand falling off?

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Still doesn't change the fact that he tanked it, reason?
He doesn't have holes in his body:sdo:

He isn't completely cut through because you say so? You do know Madara can regenerate, right?

He legs are still attached to him, right? And not across the battlefield like someone who was send across kilometers.

 

[NarutoX28]

I'm certain RSM let alone BM+RSM would yield protection against penetrative attacks anyways given that it's the preeminent stage of Sage Mode and as Detonator presented, SM Naruto was capable of withstanding a rather dense stalagmite unscathed.

I actually believe Gaiden Naruto used BSM, but for simplicity's sake, I'll argue that it was RSM Naruto. RSM Naruto was in all likelihood wounded by Sasuke's sword based on the immense force used to impale Naruto due to Shin's S/T Ninjutsu. I don't think an ambiguous and trifling sequence alone would undermine RSM Naruto's durability feats at all.

Fck, the dude tanked an collage of Kaguya's stalagmites:

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And continued to parry Sasuke's Chidori directly.

Even Base Naruto halted the momentum behind Sasuke's Chidori as well:

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Penetrative forces aren't necessarily RSM Naruto's kryptonite.

 

[Holy God]

Like i said its not just clothing Its also in his skin

Not in Naruto Gaiden or Naruto Shippuden.

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why are trying so hard to deny it? :lol

Why would something so fundamental like being able to increase the density of your skin not be declared anywhere in the manga or Databook?

So it can't be because of the fact that sage mode saw the spike so he had to enhance himself?Reason why he was saying "owowowow" before realizing that it doesn't hurt him at all.

Sure it could, but it doesn't help your cause. The fact you're comparing a chakra-enhanced rod which has penetrated both Jiraiya and Naruto on guard to some points in the ground is baffling.

It doesn't change the fact that he stoped the blade with his hand.

Look at the image. He doesn't stop it. He hits it from both sides simultaneously, splitting it. Being able to break it does not mean you can't be pierced by it, not in the slightest.

Is that why we can see his hashirama hand falling off?

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Is this some kind of joke? That is not from the kunai.

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Still doesn't change the fact that he tanked it, reason?
He doesn't have holes in his body:sdo:

Gaara would make sure it didn't kill Naruto. You can't accredit that to his magic ability to increase durability.

He legs are still attached to him, right? And not across the battlefield like someone who was send across kilometers.

No, but they are still near him. He was blown away in a specific direction after the blast.

 

[To Whatever]

>Nardo vs Sausage threads
>beginning of the year
>2017
>2018 incoming

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This doesn't debunk anything. Chidori spear isn't stronger than Rasenshuriken. The only jutsu that was foreshadowed to be at the same level as Rasenshuriken was Kirin. I don't know why people are being butthurt about this...

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You just had to chime in didn't cha. Let them argue.

 

[Detonator99]

Not in Naruto Gaiden or Naruto Shippuden.

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Do you have colored version of gaiden? Because then i guess that here naruto also doesn't have chakra on his skin.

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In gaiden he is using bm+rsm with it he is not using the nine bijus chakra witch is the reason why he doesn't have chakra on his skin.

Why would something so fundamental like being able to increase the density of your skin not be declared anywhere in the manga or Databook?

kishimoto already explained how chakra works witch explained how you can cast ninjutsu, genjutsu and taijutsu witch has to to do with your streng speed and durability. if want to learn better then go to chap 90.

Sure it could, but it doesn't help your cause. The fact you're comparing a chakra-enhanced rod which has penetrated both Jiraiya and Naruto on guard to some points in the ground is baffling.

Its amazing how you are comparing sage naruto to base as with the same durability or even sage jiraya who was already stated to have been surpassed by sage naruto at the beggining of the fight.

Is this some kind of joke? That is not from the kunai.

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Lol thats not the point i was trying to make why would his hashirama hand fall off when its supposed to be more durable.

Also :lol you are saying that one side is stronger yet you are forgetting that obito at first had hashirama cells only on the right side of his body yet when he was with minato showed that he also had hashirama cells on the left side.Meaning he had his cells on the hole body as showed on the kaguya fight were he was shirtless, so this hole thing about one side being more durable its an absolute lie :lol

Gaara would make sure it didn't kill Naruto. You can't accredit that to his magic ability to increase durability.

you do realize that the moment where gaara said that he wouldn't kill naruto was way latter down the road right?

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gaara had attempted to kill him with an attack that can pierce through trees, how is that not better then a kunai?

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Only latter down he decides that he wont kill him so continues to launch the same attack because he knows that naruto is durable enough to tank it

No, but they are still near him. He was blown away in a specific direction after the blast.

They are near him because it dint cut him in half, pretty simple. unless you show scan were it shows that he was cut in half then there is no more reason for this debate.

 

[Holy God]

Do you have colored version of gaiden? Because then i guess that here naruto also doesn't have chakra on his skin.

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In gaiden he is using bm+rsm with it he is not using the nine bijus chakra witch is the reason why he doesn't have chakra on his skin.

His hair is not doused in chakra and is clearly separated from his head, showing that there is no chakra there.

kishimoto already explained how chakra works witch explained how you can cast ninjutsu, genjutsu and taijutsu witch has to to do with your streng speed and durability. if want to learn better then go to chap 90.

Sorry, but the word "durability" doesn't even come up in that chapter. Such a fundamental ability you claim to exist is never mentioned in the series' works.

Its amazing how you are comparing sage naruto to base as with the same durability or even sage jiraya who was already stated to have been surpassed by sage naruto at the beggining of the fight.

This point is void. Sage Mode Jiraiya has gotten pierced by chakra rods. Pain has made attempts to hit Naruto with them and Naruto has to dodge and break them in order to avoid them. You can't compare rock to a chakra-enhanced weapon.

Lol thats not the point i was trying to make why would his hashirama hand fall off when its supposed to be more durable.

Also :lol you are saying that one side is stronger yet you are forgetting that obito at first had hashirama cells only on the right side of his body yet when he was with minato showed that he also had hashirama cells on the left side.Meaning he had his cells on the hole body as showed on the kaguya fight were he was shirtless, so this hole thing about one side being more durable its an absolute lie :lol

This point is also void. Obito only has increased durability on the right side. This is obviously shown when he becomes a host and only his right side is scaly. You say Obito's entire body is the same and yet in the fight against Kaguya the anime makes it so that only his right side is discolored. You clearly didn't look hard enough. Even the manga shows this.

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you do realize that the moment where gaara said that he wouldn't kill naruto was way latter down the road right?

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gaara had attempted to kill him with an attack that can pierce through trees, how is that not better then a kunai?

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Only latter down he decides that he wont kill him so continues to launch the same attack because he knows that naruto is durable enough to tank it

Just because Gaara declared it later on doesn't mean he didn't have the same intention before. He knew it wouldn't kill him. You also need to account for the different types of forces. Madara, for example, was pierced by Sasuke's sword but when the same version was beat around by the Tailed Beasts who produce a much stronger force didn't get as wounded. A kunai and the attack Gaara used are different types.

They are near him because it dint cut him in half, pretty simple. unless you show scan were it shows that he was cut in half then there is no more reason for this debate.

Interesting. So I need a scan saying my statement is true but you don't need one saying yours is? The only way Madara didn't get fully cut in half is if he was blown away by the Rasenshuriken's expansive force rather than the cutting one, which is likely considering the direction he went in. That however means what he survived is not the same force cutting the tree.

 

[Detonator99]

His hair is not doused in chakra and is clearly separated from his head, showing that there is no chakra there.

LMAO at this point you are just grasping at straws how can you tell that its not dived in chakra? Not forgetting that in the anime or official colered covers naruto in his six paths form also has chakra on his head.

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The chakra gets on his hair regardeless so you just made that up for no reason at all.

This point is also void. Obito only has increased durability on the right side. This is obviously shown when he becomes a host and only his right side is scaly. You say Obito's entire body is the same and yet in the fight against Kaguya the anime makes it so that only his right side is discolored. You clearly didn't look hard enough. Even the manga shows this.

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So egnoring the fact that he also has on his left side huh?
How about you just read the officiall colered version or even the anime :lol

Just because Gaara declared it later on doesn't mean he didn't have the same intention before. He knew it wouldn't kill him. You also need to account for the different types of forces. Madara, for example, was pierced by Sasuke's sword but when the same version was beat around by the Tailed Beasts who produce a much stronger force didn't get as wounded. A kunai and the attack Gaara used are different types.

Still doesn't change the fact that he tanked the attack regardeless.Like i said grasping at straws.

Interesting. So I need a scan saying my statement is true but you don't need one saying yours is? The only way Madara didn't get fully cut in half is if he was blown away by the Rasenshuriken's expansive force rather than the cutting one, which is likely considering the direction he went in. That however means what he survived is not the same force cutting the tree.

Yes reason? because you are literally the only one here that is making this statement so care to prove us all wrong?
Because if not then please don't expect me to reply again i don't want to keep asking the same thing over and over again.

 

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LMAO at this point you are just grasping at straws how can you tell that its not dived in chakra? Not forgetting that in the anime or official colered covers naruto in his six paths form also has chakra on his head.

The chakra gets on his hair regardeless so you just made that up for no reason at all.

Probably because Naruto doesn't usually have horns and chakra is emitting from his hair constantly.

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So egnoring the fact that he also has on his left side huh?
How about you just read the officiall colered version or even the anime :lol

I must be blind.

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Still doesn't change the fact that he tanked the attack regardeless.Like i said grasping at straws.

Him not being penetrated by a blowing force that was deliberately not intended to kill means nothing. Perhaps you are the one grasping at straws.

Yes reason? because you are literally the only one here that is making this statement so care to prove us all wrong?
Because if not then please don't expect me to reply again i don't want to keep asking the same thing over and over again.

Don't they say burden of proof falls on the one who makes the statement? You're the one that brought that attack up in the first place.

 

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Probably because Naruto doesn't usually have horns and chakra is emitting from his hair constantly.

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I must be blind.

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Him not being penetrated by a blowing force that was deliberately not intended to kill means nothing. Perhaps you are the one grasping at straws.



Don't they say burden of proof falls on the one who makes the statement? You're the one that brought that attack up in the first place.

Just curious cause I don't want to read 6 pages, and this seems to be a hot topic.

What is the current argument here?

 

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Just curious cause I don't want to read 6 pages, and this seems to be a hot topic.

What is the current argument here?

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[Detonator99]

Probably because Naruto doesn't usually have horns and chakra is emitting from his hair constantly.

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LMAO HIS HAIRSTYLE IS DIFERENT explain naruto BSM from the last or boruto then.

I must be blind.

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Is still doesn't change the fact that it was his right side that was stabed meanwhile he grabbed the left one.

Don't they say burden of proof falls on the one who makes the statement? You're the one that brought that attack up in the first place.

Have no idea at what you talking about

Him not being penetrated by a blowing force that was deliberately not intended to kill means nothing. Perhaps you are the aone grasping at straws.

Ah so you admit that he wasn't cuted in half now right?

Concession accepted then.

 

[Holy God]

LMAO HIS HAIRSTYLE IS DIFERENT explain naruto BSM from the last or boruto then.

I don't know about Boruto: Naruto the Movie, but in The Last: Naruto the Movie, Naruto is not using Six Paths Sage Mode. We've skewered off topic anyways. My initial argument had nothing to do with skin, but the cloak. Differentiating between clothing-like substance and chakra-like substance was the point. The cloak granted by Six Paths Sage Mode looks real with no chakra emitting from it. Something like 4 Tails Form is obviously chakra and grants a strong durability.

Is still doesn't change the fact that it was his right side that was stabed meanwhile he grabbed the left one.

Huh? Obito grabbed his left arm before he was stabbed by Minato. My point still stands that his right side is unique.

Have no idea at what you talking about

You're the one who brought up Madara surviving the attack, thus you would naturally be the one to prove it.

Ah so you admit that he wasn't cuted in half now right?

Concession accepted then.

This is becoming tedious. Gaara didn't want to cut Naruto in half.

 

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The cutting power of Chidori Eiso is unparalleled.

 

[Icelerate]

The rasenshuriken had expanded to become very large so obviously its penetrative power was much weaker due to its energy being spread out.

 

[Detonator99]

I don't know about Boruto: Naruto the Movie, but in The Last: Naruto the Movie, Naruto is not using Six Paths Sage Mode.

So you are still going to egnore that in the boruto movie and the last naruto doesn't have his hair on shape of horns right? figures.

We've skewered off topic anyways. My initial argument had nothing to do with skin, but the cloak. Differentiating between clothing-like substance and chakra-like substance was the point. The cloak granted by Six Paths Sage Mode looks real with no chakra emitting from it. Something like 4 Tails Form is obviously chakra and grants a strong durability.

We are not going off topic, you are the one who got lost on the middle of your arguments were you can no longer remember what you are claiming.

What we are arguing about its the stuff that happened in the gaiden manga were naruto got statbed by a sword while he was on BSM+six path sage mode that its shown in the boruto movie to be on his skin! Making it no diferent from the others previous cloack.

But of course you are coming here and say that it wasn't on his skin like as if it is the same as when fought madara, witch is an absolute and baseless lie. You can literally ask anyone from the forum o even make a thread about it asking if he was using the same cloathing cloack as when fought madara and not the one when he is on BSM and the answer will be a big NO!

Huh? Obito grabbed his left arm before he was stabbed by Minato. My point still stands that his right side is unique.

No, am saying that the side were minato grabed and placed the seal was his left one while stabed the right one who has the more hashirama cells (the one that you are claiming to be more durable)

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so it all points that its not because its more durable its simply because he couldn't react to it and enhance it.

You're the one who brought up Madara surviving the attack, thus you would naturally be the one to prove it.

LMFAO you are the only one that is saying that madara was actually cut in half everybody says and know he wasn't cut in half so unless you bring the actuall evidence that he was completly cut in half then your claiming here its nothing but utter failure.

This is becoming tedious. Gaara didn't want to cut Naruto in half.

You are becoming a tedious debater thats what it is.
Understand this... gaara's attack are able to cut through a Damn tree, and naruto tanked that attack how is that not better then damned kunai that can only stop on a tree?

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Think for a second and then come back to prove that a normal stupid kunai>>>>>tree.

 

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lol at body enhancing this shit is being taken way more seriously than it should because there's simply no such thing.

The example of Naruto tanking Gaara's attack by "enhancing his body", yet his clothes are unharmed by something that is supposed to penetrate through his body, even Gaara outright said that he wasn't trying to kill him. :lol

I'm pretty much beating a dead horse tbh. U_U