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Let alone this is before Rikudo Hinata

and Rikudo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basic chakra
2018 and people still believe hinata has Rikudou chakra. When did The Last come out again? :lmao: According to Narutopedia it came out in 2014, so for 4 years you've been clutching to a possible fallacy.
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21686940" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21686940">Melanin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> No their not the same, you need excellent or delicate chakra control for gentle fist. You need the highest form of precise chakra control to control brain Byakugou. <br /> <br /> Nothing can exceed the highest’ </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Byakugou still requires better chakra control then gentle fist, if thats whats this thread is about.</div>
 

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I'll just leave this here it looks like a C rank Jutsu and an animal to me, no?;)
an affinity lightning technique not what the twin lion fist is... PURE chakra like the rasengan

I am talking about pure chakra like what Kakashi said about the rasengan which was later the reason for him to give up and just make the chidori
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and even then find me a scan of Sakura doing any affinity thing


but this is about pure chakra and twin lion fist needs the most potent chakra viewing eye to not mess up


you have to be a monster to be able to do similar things or be a Jin or have some Rikudo or KKG
 
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When Sakura soloed a genjutsu that soloed Hinata along with a Perfect Jinchuriki, that's when the line was drawn between her and other sub-par characters. Hinata may have chakra talent with her Hyuuga genes doing all the work for her, but Sakura as an elite shinobi by birth procured even better chakra control by training under a venerable Sannin and mastering Byakugou to the point of being comparable to the Sannin, and Hashirama himself even conceding that she surpassed that level, and had attained the true power of Byakugou, so by that statement alone, Sakura's no longer recognized as a prosaic shinobi, but as a potent ninja capable of emulating Tsunade's feats, and out-performing her as the master-student pattern in Naruto has never faltered, only time that happening when Sasuke not only surpassed Orochimaru but also surpassed his shadow, when he became so fast that his shadow seemed to not keep up with his fleeting speed, a phenomenon that Kishimoto himself vaguely explained as a hereditary Uchiha phenomenon, and that Itachi also had it, which explains away the fact Itachi kept up with KCM Naruto almost effortlessly, and even verbalized as he did so, parrying all his attacks with accurate precision, and this, not having EMS, which would enhance it and make KCM fodder in his eyes. Anyway, Sakura's chakra control reflects throughout her entire performance, and that includes The Last wherein she broke out of a genjutsu that completely subdued Hinata and Naruto, both whom have been touted to have great chakra control respectively, albeit Hinata is a pathetic case when juxtaposed with Neji and other talented members who all accomplished Rotation respectively, proving that Hyuuga's themselves aren't masters of CC and have their own limit, and can be surpassed by ninja like Kabuto, Sakura, Tsunade who are more recognized in the CC dept. than Hyuuga's have ever been. Just the fact Hinata can't heal up a ninja like Sakura clears up all doubts on this topic, the fact Sakura's punches pack destructive power while Hinata doesn't, the fact Sakura could run up trees way before Sasuke did, whose chakra control was compared to Hagoromo's, and even being praised by Naruto innumerable times as the goddess of the one-punch, and also being the only ninja with genjutsu resistance, that's even better than the Hyuuga's (Hinata) despite their knack for chakra control, and the fact her Byakugo hasn't been seen because Kishimoto may be worried that if she released it now after so much chakra accumulated the earth could be destroyed, and Sasuke would have to save it either by using his possibly infinite Izanagi through his Rinnegan tomoes or by some other Rinnegan ability he may be cautiously concealing.
 

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but this is about pure chakra and twin lion fist needs the most potent chakra viewing eye to not mess up


you have to be a monster to be able to do similar things or be a Jin or have some Rikudo or KKG
Why you gotta space your points like that bro? Anyway, Rikudou chakra is meaningless in this case, it does nothing except make Hinata's chakra more potent. Naruto had Kurama chakra in pt.1 which he could use, but it never made his CC better. It was still low grade even when he could tap into it at will, so that argument doesn't really hold. And I'm not seeing scans to further your point on why you say Twin Lion Fist is such a complicated technique, when it's quite obvious it's below S rank, which is the level of CC you would need to use Byakugo. Just mention any technique in Hinata's arsenal that's S rank or concede before it gets bad.
 

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I appreciate the response but I’m going to fact check you.

Because it will fail at even the slightest mistake in chakra control, it is extremely difficult to learn this ability, which is a feat that requires the Byakugan.”
Just because the chakra control required for Twin Lion Fist requires you not make the slightest mistake doesn’t make it the highest form of chakra control. Yes it Twin Lion Fist requires precise chakra control by definition but it factually is not the highest form of precise chakra control Byakugou is. Precision needed Byakugou>precision needed for Twin Lion fist simply becuase again, Byakugou requires higher precision.

Actually having the NEED to use the byakugan (the eye with the best chakra sight) so you don't fail due to how complex it is.
Yes you need the need the byakugan to ensure that you don’t make the “the slightest mistake” in chakra control but again your need the highest form of precisionary chakra control to obtain Byakugou. Unlike twin lion fist there’s isn’t a short cut or anything to make up for shortcomings in the chakra control needed to manifest Byakugou. The only way Twin Lion Fist could trump the level of chakra control needed for byakugou would be if Hinata could actually maintain Twin Lion Fist for 3 straight years without stopping for one second.

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Sakura already mastered or had a mastery of chakra manipulation from the beginning (part 1).

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Later in the manga she is seen controlling her chakra on s cellular level, something I’ve yet to see a Hyūga do. Sakura is also “changing” the solutions “form”.

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Why you gotta space your points like that bro? Anyway, Rikudou chakra is meaningless in this case, it does nothing except make Hinata's chakra more potent. Naruto had Kurama chakra in pt.1 which he could use, but it never made his CC better. It was still low grade even when he could tap into it at will, so that argument doesn't really hold. And I'm not seeing scans to further your point on why you say Twin Lion Fist is such a complicated technique, when it's quite obvious it's below S rank, which is the level of CC you would need to use Byakugo. Just mention any technique in Hinata's arsenal that's S rank or concede before it gets bad.
mastering it makes it skilled

Naruto Mastering Kyuubi chakra compared to his Part 1 self that just let it consume him makes him a better chakra master then a ton of people

Hamura's rikudo chakra was able to revive Naruto's chakra after being depleted by Toneri in seconds when it took Sakura to do the same thing with 3 consecutive days with no rest


Hinata hasn't mastered it as far as I know

I appreciate the response but I’m going to fact check you.



Just because the chakra control required for Twin Lion Fist requires you not make the slightest mistake doesn’t make it the highest form of chakra control. Yes it Twin Lion Fist requires precise chakra control by definition but it factually is not the highest form of precise chakra control Byakugou is. Precision needed Byakugou>precision needed for Twin Lion fist simply becuase again, Byakugou requires higher precision.



Yes you need the need the byakugan to ensure that you don’t make the “the slightest mistake” in chakra control but again your need the highest form of precisionary chakra control to obtain Byakugou. Unlike twin lion fist there’s isn’t a short cut or anything to make up for shortcomings in the chakra control needed to manifest Byakugou. The only way Twin Lion Fist could trump the level of chakra control needed for byakugou would be if Hinata could actually maintain Twin Lion Fist for 3 straight years without stopping for one second.



Sakura already mastered or had a mastery of chakra manipulation from the beginning (part 1).

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Later in the manga she is seen controlling her chakra on s cellular level, something I’ve yet to see a Hyūga do. Sakura is also “changing” the solutions “form”.

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again the slightest mistake makes it a failure

to the point that you NEED the byakugan the best chakra seeing eye

the one's that out do it are Naruto's rasen shuriken that had him melding his other potent chakra

the rikduo sasuke feats

the Jin feats

and other KKG or more powerful chakra things that need more control and or effort


Sakura deals with regular chakra and so her thing isn't so precise that it needs a magnifying glass to accomplish


instead it is a chakra feat by the storing aspect and how long she has to continually store it while going about other tasks



basically do different scenarios of chakra control
 
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These Hyuga faps XD

Q: Who is challenging the Viz translation?

A: nobody!

Q: in simple terms, describe the highest or most successful point of something?

A: Webster says pinnacle is the the highest point of development or achievement:


Q: who’s saying that Byakugou requires the height most precise chakra control?

A: the facts!

What’s the point? Sakuras chakra control>hinata’s or any hyugas chakra control
 

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an affinity lightning technique not what the twin lion fist is... PURE chakra like the rasengan

I am talking about pure chakra like what Kakashi said about the rasengan which was later the reason for him to give up and just make the chidori


and even then find me a scan of Sakura doing any affinity thing


but this is about pure chakra and twin lion fist needs the most potent chakra viewing eye to not mess up


you have to be a monster to be able to do similar things or be a Jin or have some Rikudo or KKG
Your joking right? :lmao: why would elemental recomposition be easier than chakra recomposition? And I hate to break it to you but he put Rasengan at the peak of form manipulation capacity which is A rank. Chidori is A rank and it has a change in elemental and is discharged via change in form. The dog jutsu is change in chakra nature and it's form is recomposed into an animal yet it's C rank. That alone burst your bubble(fanfic) of animals being harder since it has two requirements not just 1.

Anyway I find it funny you want a scan of Sakura doing an animal change in form after I proved it's a C rank thing. As I said before Sakura doesn't need to her style doesn't revolve around it and her chakra control is far beyond(S rank +) this level and neither does it fit with her fighting style.

Now stop posting fanfics the daatbook said chakra control(generic term) was necessary and the slightest mistake could cause it to fail. That's the same as tree climbing the slightest mistake in chakra control and you'd fail by falling off. With the Byakugan to assist you you could measure the level of chakra release mitigating the risks that doesn't point to the difficulty level of it.
 

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Q: Who is challenging the Viz translation?

A: nobody!

Q: in simple terms, describe the highest or most successful point of something?

A: Webster says pinnacle is the the highest point of development or achievement:


Q: who’s saying that Byakugou requires the height most precise chakra control?

A: the facts!

What’s the point? Sakuras chakra control>hinata’s or any hyugas chakra control
okay look

Precise chakra control due to storing for years


compared to chakra control that needs the byakugan to not fail when creating/learning it


Sakura has no Dojutsu

you can't compare her to KKG elite or people with other types of chakra that are better then regular chakra
Your joking right? :lmao: why would elemental recomposition be easier than chakra recomposition? And I hate to break it to you but he put Rasengan at the peak of form manipulation capacity which is A rank. Chidori is A rank and it has a change in elemental and is discharged via change in form. The dog jutsu is change in chakra nature and it's form is recomposed into an animal yet it's C rank. That alone burst your bubble(fanfic) of animals being harder since it has two requirements not just 1.

Anyway I find it funny you want a scan of Sakura doing an animal change in form after I proved it's a C rank thing. As I said before Sakura doesn't need to her style doesn't revolve around it and her chakra control is far beyond(S rank +) this level and neither does it fit with her fighting style.

Now stop posting fanfics the daatbook said chakra control(generic term) was necessary and the slightest mistake could cause it to fail. That's the same as tree climbing the slightest mistake in chakra control and you'd fail by falling off. With the Byakugan to assist you you could measure the level of chakra release mitigating the risks that doesn't point to the difficulty level of it.
Chidori is more powerful

has speed feats

gives the user tunnel vision and is harder to learn and was a substitute to the rasengan

you can have stronger better affinity moves compared to weaker ones

unless you think Buntan's lightning moves in Boruto are as hard as Chidori

this isn't rocket science

a Rasengan is just chakra, kakakashi said manipulating just that is already A rank


unless you have a scan to disprove other wise


The answer is simple. Can Sakura replicate the twin lion fist?
 
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mastering it makes it skilled

Naruto Mastering Kyuubi chakra compared to his Part 1 self that just let it consume him makes him a better chakra master then a ton of people

Hamura's rikudo chakra was able to revive Naruto's chakra after being depleted by Toneri in seconds when it took Sakura to do the same thing with 3 consecutive days with no rest


Hinata hasn't mastered it as far as I know
You don't make any sense. Kurama is technically Rikudou chakra, since it stems from the bigger combination of chakra, but Naruto while having it was still lacking severely in CC. Then when he actually got Rikudou chakra he didn't have to train for it, nor Sasuke, and Hinata being a similar case in that she got the chakra from a deceased god, she also didn't need to train for it. So where's the confusion?
 
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