Debate: Philosophies towards the Way of peace

Which philosophy?


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mikeeozua

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As we know there can never be 'true peace' but out of all the ways and philosophies in the series, who's do you agree with the most?

Do you agree with:
Nagato/Yahiko/Konan's?
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That for there to be peace, people must understand one another's pain?

Or Madara/Obito's?
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That true peace can be obtained through love and understanding?

Or lastly do you agree with
Sasuke/Elder son's?
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That peace can only be obtained through power?
 
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Microsword57

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Well, Sasuke's Philosophy for Peace is actually the same as the Hokages. It is implied there the reason behind his Ideal of Erasing the Ninja system to establish peace.
 

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well naruto's can never happen , yeah it sounds great but he could never pull it off
madara just wants some peace and quiet so he can fap to hashirama
nagato's is evil and a tad crazy and would result in fear and misery
ill just spend my days peeping like jirayia .... peace is to complicated
 

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I don't think any would work tbh. Human nature makes both Naruto's and Sasuke's imposssible, any peace caused by Nagato's way will be too fleeting and Madara's and Obito's is just fake.
 

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first don't include yahiko with nagato,yahiko's way was the same as jiraya's,he wanted to bring a peace treaty and stop the war in a peaceful way,nagato is the one who changed that after his death.
now some say people may fear pain,but we've seen that humans once hurt they'll try to get back at the one who hurt them,even if it costs them their lives,so the ones in control of the wepon of massive destruction will be wanted by the payback,and the world will enter in a never ending cycle of revenge.nagato was dumb to think such a way will work.
love and understanding,and using peaeful means to end conflicts is great and only effective if it's backed up with enough power and respect to listen to that person.not to mention there's some individuals that it's useless to try to convince ,we've seen when yahiko wasn't strong enough he got killed and nobody listened to him from the big nations.
sasuke's way is not effective,even if you eliminate the sources of power humans will still fight,if you try to force them they'll fight back.
obito's way is plain slavery and completely irrational,i mean how can obito know what's inside every person's brain and let them see their perfect world?having the juubi might give him chakra,new abilities,but not enough braincells to control every person's illusion into their desires,unless the genjutsu will automatically make them see their dream world throuht another PNJ induced uchiha power-up.nd if he casts an illusion that everybody will live in it together it will be his own perfect world only,every person has his own vision of the perfect world,his dream world might be a nightmare to others.
not to mention this guy controlled one person(yagura)and look what happened in the mist: bloodline purges,civil war...
 

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Love is all and all is one
 

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Naruto's is the most charming; but Pain's is the most realistic.
I'll explain more later, but in this world the resolution to peace is a lot more complex than Naruto's world.
 

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Naruto's way is the only way to achieve true peace. Unfortunately that's impossible because humans selfish, greedy, blood thirsty bastards.
 

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Naruto's way is greater , but Obito's is easier .
 

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Naruto's method would seem good to the makers of Disney.But we all know Fairy Tails will always remain fairy tails.
 

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None of them are possible, but I wish that Naruto's was, he has the best ideals even if they are unrealistic.
 

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A mix of Elder and Younger son's is the most realistic, fair and probable ..... Use force when necessary but otherwise use the peaceful methods.

Obito/Madara's, Pain's, Older son's methods, is as unrealistic as Naruto's ... cos where ever there is oppression there always will be revolution. Plus Obito's campaign is woefully short sighted.
 

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The best way is the middle way between Naruto's and Sasuke's. They are yang and yin respectively. Yang cannot exist with yin. Yang needs to complimented by yin in order for balanced decisions to be made. Both Naruto and Sasuke's ways are far to extreme. They need to put their two heads together and compromise by doing that they will come to the best possible solution. This is why I want Hokage Naruto with Sasuke as an adviser at the end of the story.
 

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"Why win hearts and minds or spout some shining ideologies? Why not bring peace to the world with a system and a power?"
-Schneizel el Britannia
 

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I'd agree most with Nagato's. It's not as ideal as Naruto's, but it's far more realistic.
 
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