Debate - Kimimaro (Akasuna) Vs Tsunade (Adobo)

[Dãrth1]

Fodderkage gets fodderized

 

[TRE MERCER]

Who won??????

 

[Akasuna]

We've decided that the debate shall conclude here. Judges, please post your verdict.

 

[MadaraReturns]

itachis susanoo sword destroyed kimi's bones. i bet tsunade can pull it off too. Tsunade can heal, kimi cannot.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Why is this up for debate?
If part 1. Orochimaru had him as a slave, Tsunade is his worst nightmare,

 

[Oblivionx]

i'll put my money on Tsunade for once....

 

[makosheva7]

Convinced Tsunade is the winner, maybe even without Katsuyu. Damn she is underrated.

 

[TheEvilOne]

This was a nice debate, tho sometimes I got a feeling that Akasuna was debating with himself.

 

[Rιver]

''Thinking of stupidity as gravity, the more stupid one is, the stronger the gravity gets. While a one is facing the other, the other will drag you down to their level and beat you there with experience.'' - Quote number; 1243564: Anonymous

You ever heard of this Bakasuna?​

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Wait up Adumb; I will begin the process of judging.

 

[Beans2]

May or may not have my judgement up tonight depending on how long schoolwork takes.

 

[Akasuna]

Still waiting for verdicts.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Still awaiting your opener to our debate

 

[Akasuna]

Still waiting for you to admit that Budo is suck

 

[Eternal Sage]

This debate tho

 

[naruto7861]

My first time actually reading through a debate never really did it before don't know if it were the debaters but this debate was entertaining I liked it do more and who won btw

 

[Beans2]

Okaaaaaaaaaaaaay folks!

Akasuna (Kimimaro)

Spoiler

Pros:

-Excellent intro, loved how you explained Kimimaro's healing abilities and proved his ability to at least tank one punch from Tsunade, convincing both Adobo and myself
-It was worthwhile mentioning Kimimaro's speed/reflexes and explain how they are superior to Tsunade's
-Good point countering to "smashing the ground" and explaining how Kimimaro was doing fine when Gaara changed the enviroment to sand and so a punch shouldn't either
-Sawarabi no Mae + Tessenka no Mae combo is a good strategy which you brought up and defended

Cons:

-It probably wasn't a good idea to bring up chakra limits and how Kimimaro's takes less chakra than Kabuto's, when Tsunade has huge reserves and amount of chakra needed for healing isn't an issue (as pointed out and explained by Adobo)
-Sort of a weak counter to the grappling argument since you based it off a counterattack that deals damage from which Tsunade can simply heal
-You didn't show very good strength feats from Kimimaro; reducing the impact from Rock Lee's kick and Kimimaro's attack didn't even pierce through Gaara's sand armour, even if it did crack it

Adobo (Tsunade)

Spoiler

Pros:

-Lovely job explaining Tsunade's chakra pool
-I like the "grappling on to Kimimaro" argument since it seems like that's a very high possibility
-You did a great job defending Tsunade's strength and made clear that multiple kicks/punches should shatter his bone armour and deal enough damage to kill him
-I like the strategy of getting Kimimaro into the air by forcing him to jump (so he can't dodge in midair), whereupon he gets finished off by Tsunade
-You made a good point by explaining how she could use BPD to immobilize him and then Tsunade can finish him with a series of punches/kicks
-Good counter to Sawarabi no Mae, and how it won't affect Tsunade or Katsuyu


Cons:

-You didn't do a great job defending Tsunade's healing in terms of chakra use: Akasuna pointed out how regenerating comes at a hefty price and you only said Tsunade's chakra pool is monstrous enough to the point where she can regenerate tons of damage easily
-You didn't include enough Tsunade taijutsu feats or speed/reflexes to comfortably make me believe she can continually avoid getting headshotted by a bone if Kimimaro keeps at it


All in all, I believe both of you were focused too much on offense and not supporting defense much other than tanking/healing from attacks. Both of you were excellent in supporting your character's strengths and weaknesses (Akasuna noted Kimimaro's speed/agility/reflexes and didn't focus much on his attacking power which is much weaker and Adobo concentrated on Tsunade's chakra reserves and strength and was wary of her weaknesses.)

My point goes to...

Spoiler

Adobo. His points seemed more well-thought out, better supported, and I liked his strategies better. He efficiently countered Akasuna's points and showed a clear way that his character would win.

Giving both debaters a rep.

If you have an issues or questions with my judgement, I'm happy to answer questions.

 

[Adobo]

Okaaaaaaaaaaaaay folks!

Akasuna (Kimimaro)

Spoiler

Pros:

-Excellent intro, loved how you explained Kimimaro's healing abilities and proved his ability to at least tank one punch from Tsunade, convincing both Adobo and myself
-It was worthwhile mentioning Kimimaro's speed/reflexes and explain how they are superior to Tsunade's
-Good point countering to "smashing the ground" and explaining how Kimimaro was doing fine when Gaara changed the enviroment to sand and so a punch shouldn't either
-Sawarabi no Mae + Tessenka no Mae combo is a good strategy which you brought up and defended

Cons:

-It probably wasn't a good idea to bring up chakra limits and how Kimimaro's takes less chakra than Kabuto's, when Tsunade has huge reserves and amount of chakra needed for healing isn't an issue (as pointed out and explained by Adobo)
-Sort of a weak counter to the grappling argument since you based it off a counterattack that deals damage from which Tsunade can simply heal
-You didn't show very good strength feats from Kimimaro; reducing the impact from Rock Lee's kick and Kimimaro's attack didn't even pierce through Gaara's sand armour, even if it did crack it

Adobo (Tsunade)

Spoiler

Pros:

-Lovely job explaining Tsunade's chakra pool
-I like the "grappling on to Kimimaro" argument since it seems like that's a very high possibility
-You did a great job defending Tsunade's strength and made clear that multiple kicks/punches should shatter his bone armour and deal enough damage to kill him
-I like the strategy of getting Kimimaro into the air by forcing him to jump (so he can't dodge in midair), whereupon he gets finished off by Tsunade
-You made a good point by explaining how she could use BPD to immobilize him and then Tsunade can finish him with a series of punches/kicks
-Good counter to Sawarabi no Mae, and how it won't affect Tsunade or Katsuyu


Cons:

-You didn't do a great job defending Tsunade's healing in terms of chakra use: Akasuna pointed out how regenerating comes at a hefty price and you only said Tsunade's chakra pool is monstrous enough to the point where she can regenerate tons of damage easily
-You didn't include enough Tsunade taijutsu feats or speed/reflexes to comfortably make me believe she can continually avoid getting headshotted by a bone if Kimimaro keeps at it


All in all, I believe both of you were focused too much on offense and not supporting defense much other than tanking/healing from attacks. Both of you were excellent in supporting your character's strengths and weaknesses (Akasuna noted Kimimaro's speed/agility/reflexes and didn't focus much on his attacking power which is much weaker and Adobo concentrated on Tsunade's chakra reserves and strength and was wary of her weaknesses.)

My point goes to...

Spoiler

Adobo. His points seemed more well-thought out, better supported, and I liked his strategies better. He efficiently countered Akasuna's points and showed a clear way that his character would win.

Giving both debaters a rep.

If you have an issues or questions with my judgement, I'm happy to answer questions.

Thank you, cornbread. Still awaiting judgement from TAC and Faded/Joker.

 

[TheEvilOne]

I know I'm not a judge, but think this should be a tie. Both debaters did a great job, especially Akasuna. I used to think Tsunade defeats Kimimaro easily, but now I can see him pushing her to mid-high difficulty. At any rate + rep for you guys.

 

[Beans2]

So I guess I'm the only judge who actually posted a verdict. Much unlike that fodder TAC.