Debate forTsunade Vs jiraiya?? with an official debate (judges non-biase)

TheTailedSage

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Ill be repping jiraiya but i want someone with sense to go up aganst me so we can all come to an agreement. judges are to be non-biased and decide winner from the points they give not because they like a character between the two.

Anyone willing to go against me with tsuande and judge?
 

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Is it base or sm jiraiya
 

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... O_O wait your not saying tsunade wins!? if ive ever called you a arrogant fangirl i take it back. but still there are still people out there that think tsuande wins

Thx, I guess xd

But seriously now, who thinks she can win? I'm curious.

Jiraiya is faster and more versatile then her. The Hokage can't keep up with him. I don't see her winning.
 

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hey bro... dont ya think its obvious ... jiraiya wins

BTW wat abt intel and restrictions ??
 

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Everyone knows jiraiya wins just not at 'low' or 'low/mid' diff like morons believe. One punch from tsunade breaks his bones, so he has to be very cautious. Then, he has to go to sm to out taijutsu her and have a better chance at dodging and have juts that could actually kill her. Fight bumped to high diff right there. Then, there's few ways he can kill tsunade since fire jutsu and any size rasengan won't work.
We all know he'd win...the point is, its not an easy fight ffs.

Sannin princess tsunade or w.e her name is from the thread I know you're making this in response to is an obvious troll.
 

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Byakugou Tsunade owns Base Jiraiya
SM Jiraiya wins mid to high diff against >> byakugou Tsunade
 

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Everyone knows jiraiya wins just not at 'low' or 'low/mid' diff like morons believe. One punch from tsunade breaks his bones, so he has to be very cautious. Then, he has to go to sm to out taijutsu her and have a better chance at dodging and have juts that could actually kill her. Fight bumped to high diff right there. Then, there's few ways he can kill tsunade since fire jutsu and any size rasengan won't work.
We all know he'd win...the point is, its not an easy fight ffs.

Sannin princess tsunade or w.e her name is from the thread I know you're making this in response to is an obvious troll.

Don't get me wrong, I know Jiraiya can't win easily. Without the SM genjutsu he can't defeat her. Tsunade can tank every attack in his arsenal and she has a lot of chakra, so she can upkeep her regeneration technique for a long time.
 

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Thx, I guess xd

But seriously now, who thinks she can win? I'm curious.

Jiraiya is faster and more versatile then her. The Hokage can't keep up with him. I don't see her winning.

look on that tsunade vs jiraiya thread. people were actually debating wheather she beats him in SM

hey bro... dont ya think its obvious ... jiraiya wins

BTW wat abt intel and restrictions ??

The original debate was without restrictions so this would be without restriction, same with the knowledge the only difference would be the location. there are few that think tsuande can beat SM jiraiya

Everyone knows jiraiya wins just not at 'low' or 'low/mid' diff like morons believe. One punch from tsunade breaks his bones, so he has to be very cautious. Then, he has to go to sm to out taijutsu her and have a better chance at dodging and have juts that could actually kill her. Fight bumped to high diff right there. Then, there's few ways he can kill tsunade since fire jutsu and any size rasengan won't work.
We all know he'd win...the point is, its not an easy fight ffs.

Sannin princess tsunade or w.e her name is from the thread I know you're making this in response to is an obvious troll.

this isnt common sense to certain people they were actually debating it as you ssaw
 

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I actually beleive she can beat him without frog song in sm.
 

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I actually beleive she can beat him without frog song in sm.

He still has things in his arsenal to beat her in SM frog song isnt the only jutsu he has that can beat her
 

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He still has things in his arsenal to beat her in SM frog song isnt the only jutsu he has that can beat her

like what?:rasengan wont do much,his hair needles wont either,fire balls wont cut it. What can he use to beat her with?
 

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like what?:rasengan wont do much,his hair needles wont either,fire balls wont cut it. What can he use to beat her with?

Your telling me ultra big ball rasengan wont at least knock her unconscious, along with gamabata, gamahiro ect.

toad flatness while the boss toad take care of her.

swamp underworld while she is caught in toads throat

tactics and techs can defeat tsunade its not just frog song.
 

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Don't get me wrong, I know Jiraiya can't win easily. Without the SM genjutsu he can't defeat her. Tsunade can tank every attack in his arsenal and she has a lot of chakra, so she can upkeep her regeneration technique for a long time.

Yup. I've explained this in that other jiraiya V tsunade thread. Tsunade can win this fight by making jiraiya run low on stamina or by actually hitting him, but the odds of those happening are really low so it's much easier for jiraiya to win. To say tsunade has zero chance is crazy. She just has a very low chance, which is much higher if he's not in SM yet. But, In SM it's almost negligible since he can actually kill her in a few ways... Really few ways though.

this isnt common sense to certain people they were actually debating it as you ssaw
People were debating against me even though from my first post i said jiraiya would win... You'd think I said in any of my posts that tsunade wins no diff. Granted i did say she'd win low diff if he ran out of chakra, but it's obvious that if anyone still has stamina and their opponent doesn't they'd be the clear winner. But that's if she can even last that long to have jiraiya run out of chakra.

Even Sakura could beat hashirama if by some stroke of mystical magic she was able to fight him when he didn't even have enough chakra to do jutsu anymore.

like what?:rasengan wont do much,his hair needles wont either,fire balls wont cut it. What can he use to beat her with?
That's very true which is something i brought up for why she could win in sm. But then Someone pointed out Gaemon (i overlooked that tbh). It's really the only thing he has that can kill her if she isn't able to dodge it/get out of it before it does severe damage.
But, Really though. Between Toads, Heightened reflexes, speed and senses, she has a low probability of killing him.(you know, since it'd be harder for her to hit him) :/
 

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Your telling me ultra big ball rasengan wont at least knock her unconscious, along with gamabata, gamahiro ect.

toad flatness while the boss toad take care of her.

swamp underworld while she is caught in toads throat

tactics and techs can defeat tsunade its not just frog song.

knock her unconcious?,a magatama from madara didnt slow her down,her SOH makes her immortal. And she can just dodge it,it's too big for j-man to simply change it's trajectory very quickly. Also what would happen when a chakra punch hits that rasengan,it would explode affecting them both,who do you thnk will be affected the most?

When hs j-man summoned all of them at once anyway?,he didnt against pain,each of those boss toads take a huge amount of chakra to sustain,his sm requires him to have ample chakra so as to properly balance the senjutsu chakra with his own,he cudnt even fully do it,against the rinnegan he didnt summon all 3 at once,why would he do so against tsunade?

Also,if he summons a toad,you realize one punch would kill it right?

Trapping tsunade in a toad's mouth?,she can emit chakra from her body in form of lightening to mess up it's nervous system.

A toad flattening her is very nlikely,she broke madara's susanoo with a punch,a toad's body is not stronger than that is it?,she snapped his susanoo sword in half,is bunta's sword stronger than that?.

I am pretty sure tsunade can break out of swamp with her strength:|,assuming a toad manages to actually eat her.

Also,she has katsuya who is impervious to almost any damage you can think of,she took a CT as a mini clone.

She can help by spraying acid at the toad,

summoning several toads,or boss summons at once has been seen only by pain's animal path,i am sure every shinobi seen has summoned only one boss summon per fight.

Infact,when j-man wanted to go sm,he couldnt even summon bunta,IIRC he summoned another weaker boss summon toad

why would he summon 3 toads at once,also remeber that in an actual fight,he starts in base,and needs to go sm,which means he summons 1 boss toad to hold tsunade which is a very bad idea,especially as it isnt gonna be bunta.

By the time he goes sm,he will only have 1 toad,if it survives,that would be weakened,and when tsunade goes SOH and becomes mrs immortal,i beleive she would win.
 

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Then, he has to go to sm to out taijutsu her and have a better chance at dodging and have juts that could actually kill her.

Implying Katsuya doesn't get drowned in the swamp and Tsunade doesn't die from Toad Flame Oil Bullet.
 
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