[DEBATE] EMS Sasuke(YounqDebater) vs KM Minato(Benjamin King) Rematch

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Starting Distance: 80m
Location: SA vs Juubito
Intel: Full
Intent: To Kill
Mindset: IC
Restrictions: Perfect Susanoo, BM
Conditions- Both are healthy Sasuke can use Bijuu size standing Susanoo

--YounqDebater will make the first post
--Each poster will get to post 2 times
--We need 3 judges

Judge 1:
Judge 2:
Judge 3:
 
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Is BFR restricted? Jw.

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good luck to both debaters,
EMS Sasuke however wins this one,
 
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Be sure not to disrespect his culture, YoungDebater.
 
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Minato should shit here.​
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Sasuke negs but ill let this debate handle it
 
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I'll judge. Hope this thread doesn't become a spam fest
 

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Intro​



Step 1​

The first thing Minato will do is create 1 Kage Bunshin and it will prepare the marked kunai's around the battlefield. In base alone, Minato could mark a battlefield [
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], mark a far lake [
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] as well as mark even further distances from the battlefield [
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]. All of those instances happened under 1 chapter and by Base Minato's foot-speed. This Minato is significantly boosted with Kurama's Chakra, which we have seen the difference in speed between Base/SM Naruto to KCM Naruto. Minato's Bunshin will have few seconds to mark the battlefield with kunai's in order to proficiently counter every attack of Sasuke. And To be honest with you, Minato doesn't need any marked kunai's, because firstly Sasuke has no massive AOE technique. And secondly nothing which Minato is unable to react to and dodge without Hiraishin.

1). He can react to the likes of full-speed Ay. [
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2). He can react to Kamui's distortion while caught off-guard. [
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3). He reacted twice to full-speed Gududama while 8th Gate Gai was at move. [
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All of EMS Sasuke's attacks have no chance of hitting Minato, when the latter has the reaction and reflexes to counter them without any teleportation now he has KCM instead. But whatever, I'll keep the marked kunai for insurance.



Step 2​

Now he has prepared everything in his need, I'll move to show how he counters Sasuke's attacks and defences. To deal by most dangerous attacks Sasuke can throw at Minato:

  • Amatersu/Enton - There is literally no relevancy this Jutsu can put against Minato. First, Bijuu cloak countered it [
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    ]. Second, Ay at V2 is both inferior to Minato in reflexes and speed; and with KCM at his hands, he can dodge it by pure foot-speed.

  • Genjutsu - Sasuke's Genjutsu has no raw power against Perfect Jinchuuriki, as proven against Killer Bee. And Yin Kurama is not in bad relationship with Minato, so he'll be there to break the flow of Minato's Chakra if he's ever trapped in Genjutsu. Not to mention Minato develops strategies to fight against a Sharingan user, seeing as how countless Shinobi done the same.

  • Susanoo - Susanoo is useless to Hiraishin, and here is why: we all know Susanoo is directly linked to the user's Chakra, and this is why Sasuke will be in a very bad situation when facing Minato. We entirely know anything linked to Minato's Chakra is teleported. [
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    ] We also know anything close in radius to his kunai is also teleported. [
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    ] Sasuke would have his Susanoo teleported from him if he ever comes close in Chakra contact with Minato, or if he's in radius with the marked kunai. And Minato has many ways to do that:
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    or
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    . The result is Susanoo teleported out of Sasuke to the kunai's marked, and it becomes CQC.



Step 3​

Once it becomes CQC, Minato blitzes Sasuke by either KCM Shunshin or FTG Level 2 with a Rasengan prepared. It should end something like this:

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I'll judge if you'd like. At first glance, I'm like "Minato's got this" Then I see the conditions. It's a debatable outcome.
 
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Countering Step One... ​
Benjamin King said:
The first thing Minato will do is create 1 Kage Bunshin and it will prepare the marked kunai's around the battlefield. In base alone, Minato could mark a battlefield [
You must be registered for see links
], mark a far lake [
You must be registered for see links
] as well as mark even further distances from the battlefield [
You must be registered for see links
]. All of those instances happened under 1 chapter and by Base Minato's foot-speed. This Minato is significantly boosted with Kurama's Chakra, which we have seen the difference in speed between Base/SM Naruto to KCM Naruto. Minato's Bunshin will have few seconds to mark the battlefield with kunai's in order to proficiently counter every attack of Sasuke. And To be honest with you, Minato doesn't need any marked kunai's, because firstly Sasuke has no massive AOE technique. And secondly nothing which Minato is unable to react to and dodge without Hiraishin.

1). He can react to the likes of full-speed Ay. [
You must be registered for see links
]
2). He can react to Kamui's distortion while caught off-guard. [
You must be registered for see links
]
3). He reacted twice to full-speed Gududama while 8th Gate Gai was at move. [
You must be registered for see links
]

All of EMS Sasuke's attacks have no chance of hitting Minato, when the latter has the reaction and reflexes to counter them without any teleportation now he has KCM instead. But whatever, I'll keep the marked kunai for insurance.
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Who's to say that they weren't in the path way of him leaving the leaf and joining the BF? Also they were only 3 Kunai set and they weren't very far from each other considering that's how they made the Barrier... Sasuke ultimately will have to sit back and let the markings happen seeing as it would be a waste of time trying to stop him since he can use KB... Minato needs Ftg to dodge Sasuke his foot speed hasn't been very impressive... L0l he used ftg to dodge/get away from all those attacks so those were terrible examples. Also he reacted to 8th gate Gai? Lol no he only teleported if anything Rock lee reacted seeing as he threw the Kunai... Also that feat isn't impressive sense Gaara managed to move a sand cloud and have Kakashi warp a hole in the TSB sphere all before Gai got to punch... L0l KM Minato got kicked back by mindless v1 Juubito when his head wasn't even focused on the backside of his body.(
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). Sasuke could track v2 Juubito who is superior to v1 Juubito.(
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). With that being said Minato speed is easily seen and countered...


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Countering Step 2... ​
Benjamin King said:
Now he has prepared everything in his need, I'll move to show how he counters Sasuke's attacks and defences. To deal by most dangerous attacks Sasuke can throw at Minato:

  • Amatersu/Enton - There is literally no relevancy this Jutsu can put against Minato. First, Bijuu cloak countered it [
    You must be registered for see links
    ]. Second, Ay at V2 is both inferior to Minato in reflexes and speed; and with KCM at his hands, he can dodge it by pure foot-speed.
  • Genjutsu - Sasuke's Genjutsu has no raw power against Perfect Jinchuuriki, as proven against Killer Bee. And Yin Kurama is not in bad relationship with Minato, so he'll be there to break the flow of Minato's Chakra if he's ever trapped in Genjutsu. Not to mention Minato develops strategies to fight against a Sharingan user, seeing as how countless Shinobi done the same.
  • Susanoo - Susanoo is useless to Hiraishin, and here is why: we all know Susanoo is directly linked to the user's Chakra, and this is why Sasuke will be in a very bad situation when facing Minato. We entirely know anything linked to Minato's Chakra is teleported. [
    You must be registered for see links
    ] We also know anything close in radius to his kunai is also teleported. [
    You must be registered for see links
    ] Sasuke would have his Susanoo teleported from him if he ever comes close in Chakra contact with Minato, or if he's in radius with the marked kunai. And Minato has many ways to do that:
    You must be registered for see links
    or
    You must be registered for see links
    or
    You must be registered for see links
    . The result is Susanoo teleported out of Sasuke to the kunai's marked, and it becomes CQC.
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Amatersu being used directly at Minato is a non factor yes but Sasuke can use it in multiple ways which will be very use-full in cqc and he can use it to coat his Susanoo... Genjutsu was never really apart of Sasuke's arsenal anyways but it can be use-full(Explained later)... Susanoo will be the deciding factor here so it being useless is funny... One Naruto touched Sasuke here.(
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). Notice he didn't touch his Susanoo yet it went with him there fore it's vice-versa if the Susanoo is touched Sasuke goes with it... So teleporting susanoo away from Sasuke isn't happening... Sasuke goes standing susanoo coats himself with Enton and proceeds to rape Minato...





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Countering Step 3... ​
Benjamin King said:
Once it becomes CQC, Minato blitzes Sasuke by either KCM Shunshin or FTG Level 2 with a Rasengan prepared. It should end something like this:

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Cqc would be Minato's worst nightmare... Minato has no means of bypassing a Rib cage covered in Enton... Plus if Sasuke can track v2 Juubito tracking KM Minato movements are childs play plus his sharingan pre-cog... Once Minato get's close Sasuke quickly engages him with a Enton sword which will most likly be dodge... Once Minato goes for the attack Sasuke manipulates his Enton like this.(
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). Minato will be to close to evade this therefore resulting in his death... ​

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