Debate: EJblack V.S Long Haired Leaf Ninja

[Shura]

if i want to crack a joke, let me crack a joke.

Ok. Crack jokes.

 

[Curse Mark]

Thats the second time youve done that to me bro Lol Im just going to assume you are just being light hearted ...

When was the first? But yeah that was just a joke. If it wasn't a joke it'd probably sound more like "It's so annoying how you offered to judge stuff and then complain about it. What an inconsiderate ass." But i didn't say that. So.

 

[Zexion~]

When was the first? But yeah that was just a joke. If it wasn't a joke it'd probably sound more like "It's so annoying how you offered to judge stuff and then complain about it. What an inconsiderate ass." But i didn't say that. So.

About me being a hyprocrite for grammar sorry bout the neg rep back then ..

 

[Curse Mark]

About me being a hyprocrite for grammar sorry bout the neg rep back then ..

I can't even see the neg rep anymore anyways so it doesn't matter now.

Live and let Live.

 

[Long Haired Leaf Ninja]

I don't want to concede at all
I just didn't wanna hold anyone up.
Ill just do the best I can and post with my phone

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Ask for an extension

 

[Zexion~]

Ask for an extension

Not sure if your asking ..or asking the other guy to ask 0.o .. but anyways extension granted till two Tomorrow night

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Not sure if your asking ..or asking the other guy to ask 0.o .. but anyways extension granted till two Tomorrow night

I should of quote him and reply. I was asking the other guy to ask. Either way doesn't matter to me.

 

[Long Haired Leaf Ninja]

Saying Yamato has no way to kill Danzo is crazy he can shape his arm into any shape to impale Danzo once he is caught.
Originally Posted by Long Haired Leaf Ninja
In my argument I'm going to prove Yamato can counter any attack Danzo has and in the process capture Danzo and win the fight.
I agree on what I underline. We can both be honest and say Yamato has no way of killing/defeating Danzo. He can only attempt to capture. I will explain why I disagree with everything else you claim as a "counter" .
If you agree he can catch Danzo then he can kill him.
So far for your next post I will be expecting the "vast verity" of jutsu you claim can trap his opponent (Danzo). So far you haven't shown any of these "jutsu" he has used in the Manga to capture and defeating his opponent in any battles he has fought. Back up what your saying with Manga Scans.
I listed 3 different ways he could trap Danzo and if any if those work Danzo is dead in the water. All 3 ways I listed in my opening have the ability to catch Danzo and make it to where he can no longer use hand signs. Without hand signs all if Danzo's wind jutsu are negated and Danzo is left with no offense since he is bound and can't use hand signs.
In the fights we have seen Danzo in he uses his izigani to help with his wind attacks. Not being able to unlock his arm takes away from his wind attacks since he can't be reckless and attack straight on like he would if he had the arm unlocked.
Also as a counter to danzo's wind Yamato can use water based jutsu to slow the wind down or even turn it into a different attack all together. Yamato shows this when he works with Naruto to make combination jutus's with narutos wind and his water.
Here is where I disagree (Underline). No where in the manga did Danzo said "it would take time". All Danzo said was "cover me Im gonna release the seal". He also said "watch out for Tobi's mysterious moves."
Just because he can get 1 bolt undone in one panel that doesn't really show how long it takes to do it. One panel is not a way to judge time.
I have already rebuttal this but I would like to make a point is that, that is all Danzo needs to win the battle, he doesn't need Izanagi. Having Izanagi makes this too easy.
Saying Danzo doesn't need izanagi is crazy most of his fight with saskue that's all he used. He used it to set up his wind style he used it to set up all of his attacks. So with what we have seen if Danzo he needs izanagi to attack or he only has his wind style. Yamato knowing that's all Danzo has he can set up his attacks to counter the wind.
Baku makes this an overkill on Danzo behalf. Danzo Wind proficiency itself will make Yamato's Wood Release look like butter. Baku's vacuum will force Yamato to go defensive otherwise he will be eaten, he has to stay stationary to do what he needs to do. Yamato will not have no momentum to do what your counter implies. NOT ONLY THAT, this skill gives Danzo a free shot from the vaccum's distraction. So either way Yamato will be screwed by Baku or Danzo.
Baku would be trapped by four pillar prison and that would take Baku out.
Hell even a paper bomb into Baku's trunk when he uses his vacuum technique would take Baku out.
In closeing I'd like to say that Yamato would have Danzo on his toes the whole fight and it would be just a matter of time before Danzo was caught. Danzo is slower and has way less jutsu and without the only thing that makes him anything other then a one dementional wind style user with average tijutsu he stands no chance against Yamato and his trapping and catching skills.

Thx for the chance to debate you and thx to all the judges.
Next time I will make sure I can use the computer so I can place pics and manga scans.
Yamato rests.

 

[Zexion~]

Saying Yamato has no way to kill Danzo is crazy he can shape his arm into any shape to impale Danzo once he is caught.
Originally Posted by Long Haired Leaf Ninja
In my argument I'm going to prove Yamato can counter any attack Danzo has and in the process capture Danzo and win the fight.

I agree on what I underline. We can both be honest and say Yamato has no way of killing/defeating Danzo. He can only attempt to capture. I will explain why I disagree with everything else you claim as a "counter" .
If you agree he can catch Danzo then he can kill him.
So far for your next post I will be expecting the "vast verity" of jutsu you claim can trap his opponent (Danzo). So far you haven't shown any of these "jutsu" he has used in the Manga to capture and defeating his opponent in any battles he has fought. Back up what your saying with Manga Scans.

I listed 3 different ways he could trap Danzo and if any if those work Danzo is dead in the water. All 3 ways I listed in my opening have the ability to catch Danzo and make it to where he can no longer use hand signs. Without hand signs all if Danzo's wind jutsu are negated and Danzo is left with no offense since he is bound and can't use hand signs.
In the fights we have seen Danzo in he uses his izigani to help with his wind attacks. Not being able to unlock his arm takes away from his wind attacks since he can't be reckless and attack straight on like he would if he had the arm unlocked.
Also as a counter to danzo's wind Yamato can use water based jutsu to slow the wind down or even turn it into a different attack all together. Yamato shows this when he works with Naruto to make combination jutus's with narutos wind and his water.

Here is where I disagree (Underline). No where in the manga did Danzo said "it would take time". All Danzo said was "cover me Im gonna release the seal". He also said "watch out for Tobi's mysterious moves."
Just because he can get 1 bolt undone in one panel that doesn't really show how long it takes to do it. One panel is not a way to judge time.
I have already rebuttal this but I would like to make a point is that, that is all Danzo needs to win the battle, he doesn't need Izanagi. Having Izanagi makes this too easy.

Saying Danzo doesn't need izanagi is crazy most of his fight with saskue that's all he used. He used it to set up his wind style he used it to set up all of his attacks. So with what we have seen if Danzo he needs izanagi to attack or he only has his wind style. Yamato knowing that's all Danzo has he can set up his attacks to counter the wind.

Baku makes this an overkill on Danzo behalf. Danzo Wind proficiency itself will make Yamato's Wood Release look like butter. Baku's vacuum will force Yamato to go defensive otherwise he will be eaten, he has to stay stationary to do what he needs to do. Yamato will not have no momentum to do what your counter implies. NOT ONLY THAT, this skill gives Danzo a free shot from the vaccum's distraction. So either way Yamato will be screwed by Baku or Danzo.

Baku would be trapped by four pillar prison and that would take Baku out.
Hell even a paper bomb into Baku's trunk when he uses his vacuum technique would take Baku out.
In closeing I'd like to say that Yamato would have Danzo on his toes the whole fight and it would be just a matter of time before Danzo was caught. Danzo is slower and has way less jutsu and without the only thing that makes him anything other then a one dementional wind style user with average tijutsu he stands no chance against Yamato and his trapping and catching skills.

Thx for the chance to debate you and thx to all the judges.
Next time I will make sure I can use the computer so I can place pics and manga scans.
Yamato rests.

Fixed it for you Bro ...

 

[Long Haired Leaf Ninja]

Thx man you r awesome
I tried next time ill make sure I can do it all
Thx

 

[Obito3631]

Let's see...


Sasuke during the very beginning of part 2 >>>>>>>> Yamato

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Danzo >>>>>>>>> MS Sasuke


Please... Danzo shits on Yamato, Izanagi isn't even needed.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Fixed it for you Bro ...

Yea... It's hard to rebuttal this type of post so Imma do it the old fashion..

"I listed 3 different ways he could trap Danzo and if any if those work Danzo is dead in the water. All 3 ways I listed in my opening have the ability to catch Danzo and make it to where he can no longer use hand signs. Without hand signs all if Danzo's wind jutsu are negated and Danzo is left with no offense since he is bound and can't use hand signs."

You didn't post anything that shows how he traps Danzo. Show me the "3 ways"(Scans) you claim will be successful. You didn't even name the attacks.

So far I have post evidence that shows that Yamato's attacks are easily broken by chakra enhance attacks. Attacks like Lightening Release (Sasuke) and Chakra Scalpel (Kabuto). And you even further helped me prove that Sheer force (Kisame) Was able to break it. Whatever your claims of "trapping" will be useless. Evidence shows that Danzo Wind proficiency will easily cut down anything Yamato throws at him since his Wind-style was able to BREAK one of the STRONGEST DEFENSE (Capitalized for importance). I also added that Danzo can read movements easier thanks having the Sharigan on his left(or right not sure but Shishui's eye). I even post a scan of him doing it so I will post it AGAIN:

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Look carefully and if you don't understand still this is what I was explaining about Sharingan:

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I hope you are clicking the Spoilers it has all the scans to back up my claims

"In the fights we have seen Danzo in he uses his izigani to help with his wind attacks. Not being able to unlock his arm takes away from his wind attacks since he can't be reckless and attack straight on like he would if he had the arm unlocked."

Completely wrong. I thought we both were on the same page when you explain what Izanagi does. Izanagi help him be in God-mode for 60 secs in each eye (incomplete version). Evidence already shows that Danzo DOES NOT need help with his wind attacks. Izanagi does not benefit his wind-style it only helps provide any a new place to respawn to attack. Here is evidence for the third time:

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Danzo was never a RECKLESS fighter as I already explained during his Fight with Sasuke. He was testing the power of Sussano so he was prepared to counter.



"Also as a counter to danzo's wind Yamato can use water based jutsu to slow the wind down or even turn it into a different attack all together. Yamato shows this when he works with Naruto to make combination jutus's with narutos wind and his water."

You have lost me when you said "turn it into a different attack", I don't know how to even reply from that. As for the water jutsu you have mention (finally you brought up an attack I am familiar with even without seeing scans). That is an interesting counter but the fact that Danzo has shown he can increase it's power suction the water will eventually will not be enough to slow it down.

"Saying Danzo doesn't need izanagi is crazy most of his fight with saskue that's all he used. He used it to set up his wind style he used it to set up all of his attacks. So with what we have seen if Danzo he needs izanagi to attack or he only has his wind style. Yamato knowing that's all Danzo has he can set up his attacks to counter the wind."

You are using ABC logic. "Because Danzo use it on Sasuke therefore he needs to use it for so and so..."Sasuke is on another level anyway. But I want to even clear up your misconception. Danzo never attended to fight Sasuke remember? He wanted to fight Tobi and thats why he pulled the seal. Then he was surprise to see Sasuke on the field:

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Then he says "this is perfect now I can take both Tobi's and Sasuke Sharingans (Paraphrasing and read spoiler below)":

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You keep saying Yamato knows about Danzo when by Manga knowledge he doesn't. Danzo always works underground. Yamato doesn't even know much about Sai, his subordinate. The only counters you claim was slowing it down with water. Everything else gets destroys.

"Baku would be trapped by four pillar prison and that would take Baku out.
Hell even a paper bomb into Baku's trunk when he uses his vacuum technique would take Baku out.
In closeing I'd like to say that Yamato would have Danzo on his toes the whole fight and it would be just a matter of time before Danzo was caught. Danzo is slower and has way less jutsu and without the only thing that makes him anything other then a one dementional wind style user with average tijutsu he stands no chance against Yamato and his trapping and catching skills."

First of all when Baku is summoned he is command to immediately begin the vacuum. Yamato HAS to, again HAS to first worry about himself FIRST, from getting drift away and swallowed. Same goes for Sasuke (who use Sussano to force grip from the floor or else it would be over). And what I underline, It seem you lost being honest at that point to even consider that a counter. Paper Bombs really? If it was that simple Sasuke should of done it instead of wasting chakra on Fire release. Here Imma post a pic of Baku and look carefully on what he was continually eating:

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For a summon to continually eat boulders and trees without effecting his metabolism is truly a nightmare eater. And you honestly believe a paper bomb would do the trick?

Conclusion Yamato has never even shown to be a person to put people on their toes and always fight as a defensive person. There is no way to just catch someone who can easily cut up his wood release, sharingan slowing down his movements (not that his moves are fast anyway), and a summoning that wipes him clean. Danzo can easily remove 3 bolt seals from fighting Yamato as I actually provided evidence and scans. But here is no need for Izanagi in play as there is nothing Yamato can do to kill him.

Done.

 

[Long Haired Leaf Ninja]

Examples of those being wood release stocks that he used to help hold Kisame down. ( see chapter 507 ) Or wood release smothering binding technique. ( chapter 494 for a example ) Another being wood release wood spikes ring ( chapter 514 )
Just wanted to show you I did list 3 different ways and the chapters in which they can be found.
Also he can make his arms branch out like he did to stop naruto from leaving the inn during the Kage summit arc.

 

[Long Haired Leaf Ninja]

This is from my first post. I just wanted to show you that I did list 3 ways and put the chapters you can find them in.


Examples of those being wood release stocks that he used to help hold Kisame down. ( see chapter 507 ) Or wood release smothering binding technique. ( chapter 494 for a example ) Another being wood release wood spikes ring ( chapter 514 )

This is what I said in my first post you can go back n check if you don't believe me.

 

[Long Haired Leaf Ninja]

Let's see...


Sasuke during the very beginning of part 2 >>>>>>>> Yamato

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Danzo >>>>>>>>> MS Sasuke


Please... Danzo shits on Yamato, Izanagi isn't even needed.

Thx for you opion not needed but thx.
Also it's not Danzo vs saskue or saskue vs Danzo
My arguement for Yamato is a totally different way then saskue fought Danzo and vise versa.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

This is from my first post. I just wanted to show you that I did list 3 ways and put the chapters you can find them in.


Examples of those being wood release stocks that he used to help hold Kisame down. ( see chapter 507 ) Or wood release smothering binding technique. ( chapter 494 for a example ) Another being wood release wood spikes ring ( chapter 514 )

This is what I said in my first post you can go back n check if you don't believe me.

Sorry Im use to seeing scans but Ill look them up for you:

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Ok so how does this scan support your claims? You have a injured enemy that was already defeated by Guy and Yamato preping it off screen to hold him down? What is Danzo going to do force himself into submission?

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Ok interesting re read I forgot about that move. Unfortunate it still gets cuts up by Danzo's Wind Release with the help of sharingan predict movements by the evidence my proclaim. (btw bee smashed it with a Buijuu punch lol)

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Again enemy was captured and Yamato made a prep trap. Trap was useless anyway. I don't see this is getting Danzo.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I believe the Judging can start now.

 

[Long Haired Leaf Ninja]

Yes the judging can start
Kisame is way stronger then Danzo. I doubt Danzo could break out of that with brut force.
If Yamato wraps up his arms which is the plan so he couldn't unlock his arm to use izigani he couldn't make hand signs so no wind style. The wood style wood release smothering binding technique could wrap his arms up.

 

[Shura]

Hmm. So you finished? Alright, I'll give my judgement later.