Debate: EJblack V.S Long Haired Leaf Ninja

[Zexion~]

Danzo ShimuraV.S Yamato

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Location:4 tails naruto vs Orochimaru
Knowledge: Manga Knowledge
Restrictions:KA, Danzo only has 4 Izanagi

Leangth:2 days Or untill both contestants agree Its over
Judges: Zexion333
AkatsukiChurch
-6 Paths-

 

[Curse Mark]

Good luck to the both of you.
Although the 4 izanagi probably evens it out somewhat, extra good luck to EJ. But from what I've seen, he does know what he's talking about so both contestants should do well considering the circumstances.

 

[Long Haired Leaf Ninja]

I guess ill go first. I just wanna say this is my first debate and I thank everyone who's has helped get this started and who's helped judge.

 

[Zexion~]

lol NP and good luck try to use links and manga scans in your debates... And Organize it so it is presented nicely and you will be fine ..Win or lose

 

[Long Haired Leaf Ninja]

Quick question: does Danzo already have his right arm unlocked or does he have to find away to do it during the fight?

 

[Zexion~]

Quick question: does Danzo already have his right arm unlocked or does he have to find away to do it during the fight?

He does not have it unlocked ...

 

[Long Haired Leaf Ninja]

Thx that's gunna help

 

[Long Haired Leaf Ninja]

In my argument I'm going to prove Yamato can counter any attack Danzo has and in the process capture Danzo and win the fight.
Yamato has a vast verity of defensive and trapping ninjutsu some earth based some wood based. Also a few water bases jutsu.
I will prove that Yamato can elude danzo's attacks while tricking Danzo and catching him. Due to izigani I will have to show you different ways he can do this and I will also show you ways he can catch and disable izigani.
I will also show that yamatos superior skill with the wood style is more then enough to over power Danzo and any attack he can throw at Yamato.
Danzo has the izigani which can allow him to escape death or a bad situation. That being said he still has to unlock that ability by unlocking 3 seals on his arm that have bolts that he will have to unlock.
Chapter 454 shows his arm sealed and all 3 of seals.
Doing this takes some time ( danzo stated this himself and thats why he sent Fu and Torune to attack so he could have the time to unlock the seals )and without a decoy to stop Yamato from attacking I will prove that Danzo won't even have a chance to do that.
Taking away his izigani and also any wood style ninjutsu makes Danzo a one dementional fighter only have his wind style and Baku. Both of which can be blocked.
Yamato is a elite anbu ninja which means he is very skilled in catching and trapping. With yamatos wood style he will be able to catch Danzo and trap him and not allow him the chance to unlock that arm.
The keys to victory are to place pressure on Danzo not allowing him to unlock his right arm and forcing him into a trap and catching him in a verity of different jutus's.
Examples of those being wood release stocks that he used to help hold Kisame down. ( see chapter 507 ) Or wood release smothering binding technique. ( chapter 494 for a example ) Another being wood release wood spikes ring ( chapter 514 )
Countering Baku is going to go the same way. Yamato has the ability to make any of the above mention attacks large or small. Also the wood release four pillar prison can catch and hold things of all sizes.
This is my opening statement I would like a chance to counter.

Sry for no pics not sure how to do that yet I tried to give chapter references. This is my first debate.

 

[Curse Mark]

In my argument I'm going to prove Yamato can counter any attack Danzo has and in the process capture Danzo and win the fight.
Yamato has a vast verity of defensive and trapping ninjutsu some earth based some wood based. Also a few water bases jutsu.
I will prove that Yamato can elude danzo's attacks while tricking Danzo and catching him. Due to izigani I will have to show you different ways he can do this and I will also show you ways he can catch and disable izigani.
I will also show that yamatos superior skill with the wood style is more then enough to over power Danzo and any attack he can throw at Yamato.
Danzo has the izigani which can allow him to escape death or a bad situation. That being said he still has to unlock that ability by unlocking 3 seals on his arm that have bolts that he will have to unlock.
Chapter 454 shows his arm sealed and all 3 of seals.
Doing this takes some time ( danzo stated this himself and thats why he sent Fu and Torune to attack so he could have the time to unlock the seals )and without a decoy to stop Yamato from attacking I will prove that Danzo won't even have a chance to do that.
Taking away his izigani and also any wood style ninjutsu makes Danzo a one dementional fighter only have his wind style and Baku. Both of which can be blocked.
Yamato is a elite anbu ninja which means he is very skilled in catching and trapping. With yamatos wood style he will be able to catch Danzo and trap him and not allow him the chance to unlock that arm.
The keys to victory are to place pressure on Danzo not allowing him to unlock his right arm and forcing him into a trap and catching him in a verity of different jutus's.
Examples of those being wood release stocks that he used to help hold Kisame down. ( see chapter 507 ) Or wood release smothering binding technique. ( chapter 494 for a example ) Another being wood release wood spikes ring ( chapter 514 )
Countering Baku is going to go the same way. Yamato has the ability to make any of the above mention attacks large or small. Also the wood release four pillar prison can catch and hold things of all sizes.
This is my opening statement I would like a chance to counter.

Sry for no pics not sure how to do that yet I tried to give chapter references. This is my first debate.

Not a bad opening post, but for a large majority (Until like the last section) I wasn't sure who you were arguing for. Try to take a more offensive approach. Other than that, it was okay. But some recommendations I have to offer:
1. Work on spelling and grammar in general.
2. Work on spelling of jutsus and technique names.
3. Work on the forming of posts. Make them flow more. Use paragraphs with spaces in between. Avoid "Walls of Text" as many people call them.
4. Figure out how to use links(for manga) and put in images(specific pages from manga where you want to reference a certain panel or something.
5. Keep practicing, it gets easier.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I am going to go straight into a rebuttal post.

In my argument I'm going to prove Yamato can counter any attack Danzo has and in the process capture Danzo and win the fight.

I agree on what I underline. We can both be honest and say Yamato has no way of killing/defeating Danzo. He can only attempt to capture. I will explain why I disagree with everything else you claim as a "counter" for Danzo.

Yamato has a vast verity of defensive and trapping ninjutsu some earth based some wood based. Also a few water bases jutsu.

So far for your next post I will be expecting the "vast verity" of jutsu you claim can trap his opponent (Danzo). So far you haven't shown any of these "jutsu" he has used in the Manga to capture and defeating his opponent in any battles he has fought. Back up what your saying with Manga Scans.

I will prove that Yamato can elude danzo's attacks while tricking Danzo and catching him. Due to izigani I will have to show you different ways he can do this and I will also show you ways he can catch and disable izigani.

The Opening says "Manga Knowledge". Show me proof otherwise that states Yamato knows about Izanagi.

I will also show that yamatos superior skill with the wood style is more then enough to over power Danzo and any attack he can throw at Yamato.

Being superior skill in wood release is unimportant to Danzo, as he knows everything about Yamato, as the Hidden Leaf's Elder. I will wait for your next rebuttal to explain to/show scan/proof on how Yamato's wood release overpowers Danzo's Wind proficiency. I, on the other hand will provide evidence on why Danzo's Wind release will over power Yamato's wood release:

Yamato wood release was always shown to be vulnerable to enhance chakra-base attacks (As you can see through spoilers):

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(Chakra Blades/Scalpel)

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(Lightening Release destroys it)

Also what you mention earlier about Kisame:

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Sheer Strength/Force destroys it.

NOW, lets think about this logically. Danzo's Wind release was so great that it can even split open The STRONGEST Defense in the Naruto verse. So have to ask our selfs if its even safe to apply Yamato can successfully capture him in the first place where his Wood release are easily crushed by chakra enhancement/sheer force? with Danzo's Wind proficiency. He can easily created Wind weapons to cut Yamato's Wood like butter. He can decide to make them as shuriken or even a blade-like weapons. Either option is good enough to ripe through Yamato's attacks

Danzo has the izigani which can allow him to escape death or a bad situation. That being said he still has to unlock that ability by unlocking 3 seals on his arm that have bolts that he will have to unlock. Chapter 454 shows his arm sealed and all 3 of seals.
Doing this takes some time ( danzo stated this himself and thats why he sent Fu and Torune to attack so he could have the time to unlock the seals )and without a decoy to stop Yamato from attacking I will prove that Danzo won't even have a chance to do that.

Here is where I disagree (Underline). No where in the manga did Danzo said "it would take time". All Danzo said was "cover me Im gonna release the seal". He also said "watch out for Tobi's mysterious moves." Lets look at the scan:

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If you look carefully it literately took one panel time to unlock one. You said it yourself it has 3 bolts. Taking three bolts out will would require only 3 small panels of removal (Manga doesn't show the rest of the removal to leave suspense for the readers.) How would it NOT be possible for someone like Danzo who could use Sharingan predicaments (here:

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) and who can maneuver places using his wind release (Yes he is flying/gliding:

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Taking away his izigani and also any wood style ninjutsu makes Danzo a one dementional fighter only have his wind style and Baku. Both of which can be blocked.

I have already rebuttal this but I would like to make a point is that, that is all Danzo needs to win the battle, he doesn't need Izanagi. Having Izanagi makes this too easy.

Yamato is a elite anbu ninja which means he is very skilled in catching and trapping. With yamatos wood style he will be able to catch Danzo and trap him and not allow him the chance to unlock that arm.

Show me a scan of Yamato doing this. All of his captures so far, that I have seen, was with a supporter on his team that already had the opponent bind.

Examples of those being wood release stocks that he used to help hold Kisame down. ( see chapter 507 ) Or wood release smothering binding technique. ( chapter 494 for a example ) Another being wood release wood spikes ring ( chapter 514 )

As I mention earlier how is this a case where fighting in a 1v1 battle then a situation you applied here. The opponents were already down.

Countering Baku is going to go the same way. Yamato has the ability to make any of the above mention attacks large or small. Also the wood release four pillar prison can catch and hold things of all sizes. This is my opening statement I would like a chance to counter. Sry for no pics not sure how to do that yet I tried to give chapter references. This is my first debate.

Baku makes this an overkill on Danzo behalf. Danzo Wind proficiency itself will make Yamato's Wood Release look like butter. Baku's vacuum will force Yamato to go defensive otherwise he will be eaten, he has to stay stationary to do what he needs to do. Yamato will not have no momentum to do what your counter implies. NOT ONLY THAT, this skill gives Danzo a free shot from the vaccum's distraction. So either way Yamato will be screwed by Baku or Danzo.




All for now.

 

[Zexion~]

@Long haired Ninja .. To add links you simple Go to the manga page you want us too see .. and Copy and paste it's URL .. then Above where you type your answer there will be a globe .. press on it (If you roll your mouse over it it says insert link).. And to add Scans you go to the Manga page you want and right click it and then press copy image url .. Then you press insert image and press paste/Ctrl+v .. However if you want to post more then one in ONE post you will have to Use the spoiler tags which can only be used when you press go advanced ..next to post quick reply

 

[Long Haired Leaf Ninja]

Thx for the that. I'm sure not haveing pics or the scans will hurt my arguement.

 

[Long Haired Leaf Ninja]

Ill need to post tomarrow I can't put pics or scans on with my iPhone
Sry if that's a problem.

 

[Zexion~]

well the debates supposed to end tonight ...

 

[Long Haired Leaf Ninja]

I'm very sry. You can call it now if you want I understand.
I make my post from my phone and I can't do everything u can on a computer.

 

[Zexion~]

AGHHH if i have to judge one more ****ing conceded debate.. someone is going to die :nuts:

 

[Curse Mark]

AGHHH if i have to judge one more ****ing conceded debate.. someone is going to die :nuts:

Offers to judge debates, gets angry when he has to judge debates.
Yay for logic

 

[Shura]

Offers to judge debates, gets angry when he has to judge debates.
Yay for logic

If he wants to be angry then let him be angry. :|

 

[Curse Mark]

If he wants to be angry then let him be angry. :|

if i want to crack a joke, let me crack a joke.

 

[Zexion~]

if i want to crack a joke, let me crack a joke.

Thats the second time youve done that to me bro Lol Im just going to assume your not trying to be mean .