[DEBATE] DSM Kabuto(YounqDebater) vs Nagato(NSUNSR) Rematch

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[DEBATE] DSM Kabuto(YounqDebater) vs Nagato(NSUNSR) Rematch

Starting Distance: 50m
Location: SA vs Juubito
Intel: Full
Intent: To Kill
Mindset: IC
Restrictions: Edo Tensei.
Conditions-Nagato is healthy and mobile.

--YounqDebater will make the first post
--Each poster will get to post 2 times
--We need 3 judges

Judge 1: TheAncientCenturion
Judge 2: BeansandCornbread2
Judge 3: Almighty Unorthodox

Pro-tip We did not debate with these guys last time. It was SM Naruto vs Pain.
 
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Rematch? Who won it the first time? You?
 
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I'll be watching this if you want me to debate I won't mind but ill be watching this debate I personally think nagato is better then Kabuto
 
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You cannot simply state Nagato is healthy and restrict Kabuto's Edo Tensei , it should obvious Nagato takes this really easily . The location is disadvantaging Kabuto even more
 
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Good luck to both debaters
 
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This'll be intriguing, don't see how dsm with no et beats nagato
 
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All we need is one more judge then the debate can start.
 
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You should at least change the location to a cave. I consider DSM Kabuto vs Prime Nagato are more or less equal match in a cave.​
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Kagustuchi said:
You should at least change the location to a cave. I consider DSM Kabuto vs Prime Nagato are more or less equal match in a cave.​
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Na Kabuto location advantage> Nagato

Kabuto outside = Nagato
 
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EjBlack said:
Na Kabuto location advantage> Nagato
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If he starts in SM then yes, but he doesn't here.​
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Kabuto outside = Nagato
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Outside Kabuto loses imo. This is one of those rare match ups where its completely ability and strategy based.​
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Kagustuchi said:
If he starts in SM then yes, but he doesn't here.​
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It wouldn't matter, In character, as Kabuto has many ways to built time in battle. But still Nagato could gain an advantage.

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Outside Kabuto loses imo. This is one of those rare match ups where its completely ability and strategy based.​
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Which is why it can go either way.
 
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EjBlack said:
It wouldn't matter, In character, as Kabuto has many ways to built time in battle. But still Nagato could gain an advantage.
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Which is the point xD in a Cave when he starts in SM he could essentially 2-3 shot Nagato. Having to build SM puts them on equal grounds and lets Nagato get accustomed to his fighting style.​
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This debate turned into Kagatsuchi vs EjBlack. It would be good if you continue your arguments somewhere else.
 
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Kabuto really does not stand a chance here[, I don't see how whoever is debating for him could loose here.
 
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Countering Animal path/summonings.

Animal path will be the deadliest thing besides his Deva abilities. Cerberus is put down via sound genjutsu similar to how Ma and Pa did.(
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). The sticky and elastic threads are so strong that even an elephant pulling each end would not break them. The enemy is unable to budge a muscle, let alone fight back. Once captured, their fate is in the hands of Kidōmaru. Also, according to Kidōmaru, it can hold more than five tons. However, since the webbing is crafted from chakra.(
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). Also yes the web can get pretty big.(
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). Once Cerberus is down Kabuto proceeds to use bone forest to stab and shred the ox and rhino until they poof same goes for the crab. If the Centipede tries to go underground Kimmimaru bones ends it. Chameleon camo is completely useless seeing as Kabuto has Karin sensing abilities plus SM sensing. As for the flying bird White rage should do throw it of course seeing as it's a blinding light which would cause the bird to fall down into bone forest. ​


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Countering Deva abilities.

Shira tensei- Shira tensei won't be a problem tanking. Kabuto not only has a liquid body which is very durable seeing as Suigetsu got hit point blank range with a tbb and still lived so tanking ST which is blunt for like a blast tbb is done effortlessly. Basho tenin- Nagato will most likly go for the Basho tenin rod combo which isn't much seeing as Kabuto can use his liquid body and have the rod go right through him or he could just make one of the sound 4 appear out of his stomatch and grab the rod with there hands.(
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). Oral rebirth is always an option as well seeing as you can get out from more than one place out of the body.(
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). Far to many ways to counter that combo. Chibaku tensei- Nagato is going to go for Ct when he realize how out-matched he is here. One Ct comes out Kabuto has to act very quickly. Kabuto uses Mand II to burry it's self underground this will be easy task seeing as Kabuto has earth release. Manda will most likly still be caught once Manda II is caught Kabuto waits inside it's belly. Manda II will survive for quite some time getting smashed by rocks since regular who is weaker was hit by Deidara c0 and still had it's body intact.(
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). Once Manda II is crushed and forced to poof Kabuto uses his liquid body to tank any incoming rocks. By this time the Ct will have already ended. Once that happens that the tunnel hole that Manda II body took will leave Kabuto enough room for freedom seeing as CT still had holes in it after Kurama poofed.(
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). Once the orb collects these little rocks Muki tensei put holes in it. Don't say the orb can tank it because it tanked tons of rocks being smashed on it. Piercing force>Blunt force this has been proven many times. ​


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Countering Nagato cqc.

Nagato cqc consist of Preta,Human,Ashura,Deva abilities. I've already countered Deva abilities. Kabuto summons Manda and gets on top of it's head Nagato will probably try to BT him down Kabuto simply uses giant orochimaru face.(
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). to blind and immobilize Nagato. Mind you Nagato cannot get rid of WR seeing as his deva abilities will be on there interval. Once he's immobilized and blind he'll have to reply on his sensing abilities he'll most likly use Ashura head blast.(
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). which both are easily tanked by Manda since he was hit by c0 and still lived. Once that is tanked Manda proceeds to swallow Nagato and Kabuto summons Manda back to Ryuchidou. Nagato will go along with Manda and be gone foor good. ​

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Countering Gedo Mazo.

Countering Gedo Mazo. This will be a very easy task for Kabuto seeing as Nagato Gedo Mazo immobilizes him and drains him awfully. Also Phantom dragon is easily dodged seeing as Kabuto has enough speed to evade Sasuke Susanoo arrows. Not to mention phantom dragon is a solid.(x). Kabuto uses Muki tensei to dagger into Nagato stomach and legs to kill him since he's immbolized. ​
 
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