Hi. Thanks for the debate and I guess it's time for me to win like always. I post this to let you know that I am working on my first reply. Good luck, Absolute Zero.
Advantages of Kimimaro over Hidan: Advantages:
-Shikotsumyaku Kekkei Genkai: Kimimaro can manipulate his bones handily. Without this Kekkei Genkai, he'd more than likely be a reasonably powerful ninja because (explained in the next dash).
-Orochimaru's training: He did receive Orochimaru's training which more than likely made him around as skilled as Sasuke (pre-Hebi/beginning of Shippuden).
-Calm pace: Kimimaro while fighting his enemies usually keeps a calm pace and does not despair, unlike Hidan who acts like crazy and does idiotic actions that as said by Kakuzu, would get him killed if it were not for him. Unfortunately for Hidan, he's alone here and will act incompetently without hesitation.
-Great chakra reserves: His chakra is incredible regardless of being sick. He fought Lee and then Gaara and after an extremely long while of fighting, he died because he had to compete against Gaara's sand defenses and waste all of his chakra on them. Hidan does not posseess any defensive powers that will tire Kimimaro out and thus make him die from exhaustion. This means that the only way Hidan can kill Kimimaro is by striking him and then using his blood, but how will he be able to do that if he can't even get through Kimimaro's Kekkei Genkai defenses?
-Remarkable skills that are just what is needed against Hidan: GREAT hand-to-hand skills which can be used to easily block Hidan's attacks in case he's low on chakra (which albeit possible is unlikely).
-Speed advantage: He's a lot faster than Hidan and this is not only seen in the databook, but in case you consider it unreliable, in the manga (able to keep up with base Lee), while Hidan was only capable of fighting a tired Kakashi clonewhile still needing a lot of Kakuzu's summonings' help.
Now, all of the above, regardless of how amazing it sounded, are all feats that base Kimimaro accomplished. Now, let's talk about CM2 Kimimaro which improves him a lot:
-Faster speed: Remember how I said in the previous dashes that Kimimaro while in base kept up with base Lee? Well, while transformed when it comes to speed, he can effortlessly keep up with Gaara's sand which at this point is much better than when he fought Lee at the Chunin Exams (and this is obvious because Gaara showed amazing skills that he would never be able to use before such as Shield of Shukaku).
-Greater strength: While in Cursemark 2, not only the power brings the user greater speed, but also greater strength, and this strength was making Kimimaro capable of treating the sand like it was nothing, surviving it because of his amazing strength and endurance.
-(Reiteration to emphasize it): Greater endurance.
Last but not least, and Kimimaro's gate to victory: Clematis Flower/Bone Drill: Gaara, the user with unarguably the best defense in Part 1 Naruto, had to use Shield of Shukaku in order to survive Kimimaro's signature move:
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As seen in this picture, regardless of being Gaara's most powerful shield (and the most powerful shield in part 1), it is still being affected hugely by Clematis Flower, and while such weapon is ultimately destroyed, it posed an obvious threat to Gaara, who believes he would have died had it not been for his ultimate defense. Here, however, we're talking about Gaara, a user with once again, an extremely powerful defense. Hidan is just skin and bone and will be pierced (and then split in half) like a doll, and this is inevitable for him due to the fact that he is slower than base Kimimaro, let alone CM2, so he can't escape nor try to tire him.
1. Hidan's taijutsu, movement speed, reaction speed and attack speed are superior to Kimimaro. Bones fought against 3 kids. Drunken Lee, Genin Naruto and emo Gaara. Gaara was probably stronger than genin and he didn't use his strongest form at the time that was shukaku gaara. lol at people who claim that his taijutsu is strong because he fought against a DRUNKEN boy. Kimimaro is just a bully. A jounin picking on kids one at a time until he met the wrong kid who could **** his shit up (Gaara).
Hidan fought Part II Jounin Kakashi with 3T sharingan. His attack speed is slowest among AKATSUKI members yet Kakashi with pre-cog was backpedaling in his fight against Hidan. Jounin Asuma who has superior speed in the DB was also tagged by Hidan. Hidan kept up with 2 taijutsu masters with good speed and tagged the one who had back up. No doubt, Hidan will tag bones with his scythe. Kimimaro's close range battle ain't shit when you look at the big picture. One was fighting kids one after the other. The other was fighting Copy ninja Jounin and Taijutsu master jounin with shikamaru's back up.
Kimimaro 1v1 a drunken kid
1v1 genin naruto
1v1 gaara (lost)
Hidan
1v1 3 T Kakashi (with 1 mask aid). Hidan also went 1v1 toe to toe against taijutsu master with 3T pre-cog with his "slow" attack speed. LOL.
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1v2 against Taijutsu Jounin Asuma + Shikamaru
Taijutsu feats Hidan > Kimimaro.
2. Hidan is only relentless after his cable whip got severed. He is cool, calm and calculated when he fights long range. The cord with the scythe makes Hidan's style unpredictable. It will be like kimi fighting drunken lee from a long range. Being crazy can be an advantage because he pressures his opponent. Kimimaro will fold under pressure and he'll get chopped up.
3. Durability feats. Hidan tanked futons that blow holes thru trees. Hidan's head got severed by Asuma's chakra knives that could blast through trees and rock. Hidan tanked fire blasts from Kakuzu's mask. He tanks all shit thrown by Kimimaro. I don't see anything Kimimaro can throw that harms Hidan. Clemantis flower drill can cut hidan in half? LOL. What kind of logic is that?
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^ That weapon has a CONCENTRATED POINT. Its a STABBING WEAPON. That shit don't work on Hidan. Its also unnecessarily big and clumsy. Good luck catching nimble Hidan with that weapon. IN fact, most of Kimimaro's attacks are linear, stabbing and thrusting. All ineffective against Hidan. No more "gates to victory". You lose. LOL.
4. Before you get any ideas, Kimimaro won't restrain Hidan with his spine whip. Hidan got ambushed by Asuma and reacted. He is known for fast reactions + fast reflexes. Hidan will deflect that shit and counter back. He deflected Kunais and shurikens with the scythe whip. He'll do the same against the spine whiplash. He is too athletic and too nimble to be caught. Kimimaro's finger bullets don't do shit to Hidan either. Hidan can avoid or tank them. Makes no difference. Sure, Kimimaro has bone armor but that shit don't work against Hidan once again. It protects him from blunt attack that crushes his body structure but Hidan has other ways to win such as....
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5. Taking his blood. Kimimaro bleeds a lot.... Hidan's taijutsu feats, nimbleness, athleticism, etc. he will get the blood and he will perform the curse. Kimimaro is not smart either. He is brainwashed by Oro and Oro does the thinking for him. But Oro is not in this fight. Tough luck. Just look at the image above when Kimi fought Gaara. Why didn't he let go of his spine whip and walk around that statue to stab Gaara? Why did he stand there like a fool and smash the shukaku shield when he didn't have to? Its like smashing a locked door open instead of walking around it. LOL. When Kimi fought a drunken kid, he stood and watched what the kid was doing. He wasn't pressuring lee. He was cautious of the unknown. He didn't know what to do. Same thing will happen against Hidan. It only takes a few seconds and the ritual will be complete. Kimimaro will be mesmerized and before you know it, he is dead. And dont tell me that kimi can deduct whats going on. His intel stat is the same as Hidan's. It took a nerd with 200 IQ to solve the curse jutsu riddle. Kimi does not have the brain capacity to solve it. Hell, even with prep and full intel he won't pull of what shika did. Hidan can also play dumb and get stabbed by Kimimaro. Kimi ain't smart enough to notice he is immortal. Hidan catches him off guard with a scythe slashing his face. Hidan backs away and begins the ritual. GG.
6. Hidan has regeneration feats. He got his lungs, heart, internal organs, etc. all crushed but did a back flip and throw knives in the air after. His body showed no signs of fatal wounds after his battle with Asuma. Hidan repeated stabs himself in the chest yet there was no hole in his chest. He abuses it and crushes his chest cavities all the time yet he always has a clean looking body. You cant deny his regen feats.
7. Battle of Attrition. Hidan is immortal. He is relentless. He is durable and resilient. In the worst case scenario, the battle will draw out. Hidan will keep going at a consistent pace and poor sick Kimi will puke blood and die.
X factor: According to Master Kishi, the scythe can split up and it has various other functions that were never shown. This means the scythe has other functions that Hidan did not reveal. For this fight, he will. One thing is certain, the scythe can split up into 3. This means Hidan can shoot the scythe blades out and reclaim them after. He can extend the snath to increase the range of the scythe blades and each blade can spin 360 like a propeller. Don't give me that "fanfic" bullshit because Kishi said he didnt have time to show the scythe functions but we got time now for this battle.
First of all, I realized that you said that Kimimaro's intelligence stat in the databook is the same as Hidan's, and since you're using the databook as a way to try to refute my arguments, and that's completely acceptable, so will I.
I will respond to each one of your points.
To your point #1:
1. By feats, the databook, and the wiki, it is easy to conclude that Kimimaro, as I said before yet I'll reiterate, is faster than Hidan in every way, and if you really want to overestimate your character, then let me refute it for you: Hidan didn't keep up with "3T Kakashi," he barely kept up with a fatigued clone while getting a lot of help from Kakuzu.
2. Ranks in Naruto, as seen many times by even Naruto himself, do not matter, and Gaara at this point regardless of being Genin is Jounin level or above. Please, we're talking about a kid who very shortly after became Kazekage - it's not like we're talking about your typical fodder.
3. " lol at people who claim that his taijutsu is strong because he fought against a DRUNKEN boy" I like how you say Lee was drunk as if that was a disadvantage. Lee, drown in desperation because his regular Taijutsu was not working at Kimimaro (regardless of being the best at it and unarguably a hell lot better than Hidan), resorted to using the Secret Arts of The Debauched. This means that his skills improved significantly, and the only reason he was able to achieve this form is because Kimimaro let him because he realized he was a boy of good fighting spirit who was "trying to drink his medicine." Against Hidan however, a maniac who would be insulting him every two seconds and obviously looks like a homicidal maniac, this would not be the case and he'd not give him the chance to perform his ritual, especially because he's not a little kid.
4. Asuma didn't know anything about Hidan's abilities, that's why he was not cautious, therefore, this argument is invalid, hence why I will not respond to it with a paragraph full of calculations, feats, and manga pages but with a simple fact, although I will say this: Hidan struggled a lot against him regardless of Asuma not knowing anything about his powers and also couldn't get through his simple Taijutsu defenses despite being one of the worst Jounin ninjas when it comes to Taijutsu and not being particularly fast, and this was seen in part 1 when he was barely keeping up with the simplest form of a toying Samehada Kisame.
Point 2: "Hidan being incompetent and acting foolishly an advantage because he pressures his opponents." This is horribly wrong - acting mindlessly was LITERALLY his downfall's reason. He was being cocky and underestimating Shikamaru being careless about what his next move was going to be - and this was when he had Kakuzu telling him to control himself and to watch out every time a Jutsu was about to hit him. Imagine, Hidan, with Kakuzu who told him what was coming to him and what not to do, was still acting like an idiot and fell prey to MANY Jutsus he could have avoided by being cautious, one of them eventually leading him to his demise. Alone as if this wasn't ridiculous enough already, he'd be ten times worse because as I said before, nobody would be telling him what was behind his back and he'd end up in the same situation that got him killed, just A LOT faster.
Point 3:
"That is a drill, a stabbing weapon, it wouldn't kill Hidan."
You're confused here. Yes, it is a drill... but not solely "a stabbing weapon" - a drill that would cut Hidan in half. Look, you're confusing this drill with a knife - a knife makes small holes in people leading them to bleed out. Kimimaro's Clematis Flower, however, causes huge holes when it fully penetrates something - huge holes that are much bigger than a person's torso.
Some real life examples:
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Yes, this knife is a stabbing weapon and would not split anybody in half,
but this?
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This would quickly proceed to become a reasonably big hole to an extremely big hole that would tear your legs and your head apart from your torso. It would split you in half regardless of being a weapon with a concentrated point.
This is the case with Hidan, who while can survive being stabbed, would not survive being split in half because just like in the manga, the inability to move is his demise.
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Remember, Clematis Flower gave a defense that is hundreds of times more resistant than a human body an extremely huge hole - one that would split a regular man in half. What would happen to Hidan? Sure, he might have great endurance, but it is nowhere near close to that of one of the best defenses in the manga, and also, as shown in such, he can easily be separated into parts, which once again, lead him to his demise.
Point #5:
1. You based part of this point on your point #1, which I already refuted (Hidan's Taijutsu and Speed being better than Kimimaro's). He wouldn't be able to get Kimimaro's blood by fight unless he manages to tire him out, which would take him a long time and is simply almost impossible because he is slower than him and could not survive Clematis Floor. Now, you said Kimimaro bleeds a lot - this is not the case in the actual manga NOR the anime (you put a cover picture which in reality never happened in the story) and here's my proof:
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2. You said Kimimaro, even with full intel and prep wouldn't be able to stop Hidan's ritual. Considering Kimimaro is much faster and more skilled in Taijutsu by feats (which I once again, quoted in point #1) and the databook (which you quoted before as a weapon against me), he'd be able to casually keep him from doing so, and if he decides to start in CM2 when the battle starts (where his stats are just improved), he'd just end the battle with Clematis Flower.
Point #6:
1. Sure, you can't deny his regeneration feats, but the reason he was defeated was because he couldn't recover parts of his body that made him incapable of moving. By being split in half, this would be the case, and Kimimaro would still have the Clematis Flower Drill in a near perfect condition and he'd just continue to separate Hidan's body parts using this (although it wouldn't be necessary because Hidan would be unable to move at this point).
Point #7:
1. "Hidan is immortal," not exactly - being incapable of moving would make him lose.
2. "He's relentless," and once again, this was the reason of his downfall in the manga because he acted cocky the entire time and didn't care about what was going to happen to him.
Point #8 (your "x-factor):
I don't see how this would help Hidan, but it still is not happening in the battle simply because it's not in the manga and as beansandcornbread2 himself stated, this is manga Hidan.
Counters: Refute speed claim: You make baseless subjective claims. Hidan said "I am the slowest AKATSUKI ATTACKER". He has shown movement speed feats by going toe to toe with Kakashi (Refer to the scan of my OP). He has shown quick reflex speed and nimbleness. He was ambushed by Asuma and countered. He was surprised by Shika's shadow knife synergy jutsu but avoided it.
Hidan's scythe: I forgot to put this in my OP but I will put it here. Hidan's attack speed is inhibited by the design and size of the scythe but he compensates for it with 3 things. 1)the area of effect and the number of blades 2)Unpredictability 3)X factor provides versatility: Scythe splitting into 3 will increase Hidan's attack speed because he can use 1 blade instead of 3 (refer to OP X factor).
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^ Take the Abomination's hook as an example. Which hook is likely to hit its target? The one that looks bigger. This is same idea with Hidan's scythe. He will tag Kimi. Hidan's scythe is also UNPREDICTABLE. A drunken boy gave Kimi trouble because he was unpredictable. Hidan has the edge here.
Subjective claims: You use words like "barely kept up", "fatigue", "a clone" and "a lot of help...". How the **** do you know Kakashi was fatigue? Because he lost his Konoha vest? He wasn't fatigue. Kakuzu's elemental justu blasted that shit away. Fatigue means that Kakashi was fighting for a long period of time and then Hidan came a long and took him on. However, that wasn't the case. In fact, HIDAN WAS THE ONE FATIGUE my man! He just performed a 3 day sealing jutsu with Pein and went straight into battle. It just proves he has immortal stamina. A clone is "The user's chakra is evenly distributed among every clone, giving each clone an equal fraction of the user's overall power." So why are u emphasizing on Hidan fighting clone? lol. Its the same shit fool ya fool! Kakuzu only helped Hidan with 1 heart at a time. Hidan was the main offence. He was vanguard of the duo.
Rank does matter: Yes, I already accepted that Gaara is above genin and Kimimaro got wrecked. Ranks do matter. If not, why did Kishi include them fool ya fool? For aesthetics? If rank didn't matter, Sasuke wouldn't be taking orders from kakashi right from the beginning.
Son of Prime Hiruzen: Asuma is one of the worst? lol. Look at the DB stats on taijutsu and speed and come back to me fool ya fool. And hidan is slower than Asuma. His taijutsu is also not as good as asuma yet he beat him with back up from Shikamaru. Why? Read Hidan's Scythe section. IT IS BECAUSE HIDAN IS UNPREDICTABLE. The scythe gives him the element of surprise. This was why a nerd with 200 IQ prepped to disarm Hidan. He knew that scythe was going to catch top tier taijutsu masters off guard.
Kimi is just as smart as Hidan: I already explained that in my OP. Kimi could have walked around the big block of gaara's strongest defense but he blasted it through shattering his own flower arm jutsu. You expect a fool like him to figure out Hidan's immortality and curse jutsu? So is Kimi the next Shikamaru of the Sound? He has 200 IQ? lol. Please stop. This shit ends here btw. I won't keep repeating the same things over and over again because you can't accept fact. Kimi WILL NOT figure out Hidan's immortality and curse jutsu.
Hidan's personality: You make another baseless claim saying that Hidan is "mindless". Was he mindless when he fought Shikamaru and Asuma? If he was mindless, he would've been caught by Shika's shadow from the get go. Refer to OP again. Hidan is cool, calm and calculated long range. Short range he becomes relentless and violent. Now, you have to be careful of what you say about how Kimi can "outsmart" Hidan. This is not going to happen. Its very disrespectful to 200 IQ Shika. Kimi does not have the brain capacity to comprehend what Hidan has. Hidan also talked shit to Chouji to instigate a fight. Is that mindless? or cunning? Shika knew what Hidan was planning and stopped Chouji in his tracks.
Big Clemantis flower pike is useless against Hidan.Its a big and clumsy weapon. Its a raw power weapon that only has a small area of attack right at the point. Its not very efficient. Funny how people laugh at Hidan's scythe but take this clementis arm shit serious. All the weight is distributed to his forearm and the lethal part of the weapon is at the point. Its very big and heavy. Even the slowest of konoha's ninjas can dodge that shit. Perhaps, this was why Kimi didn't walk around the statue because he knew the weapon was too big and clumsy for him to strike someone as slow as gaara. LOL. Its useless against someone who has great reflex and nimbleness. If Hidan lets Kimi get close, this is what will happen: Hidan will dodge the flower and Kimi will lose balance and fall on his ass swinging that weapon like a caveman. I want to clarify. When i said drill, i didn't mean it functions as a drill. It looks like one but its not. Its basically an inefficient stabbing weapon.
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are you joking? How the **** can you severe limbs with that weapon? It can't even cut a rope fool ya fool. LOL. Look at the point. Its so sharp. Its a stabbing weapon. Even one of KB's fodder swords can do a better job.
Hidan will get Kimi's blood I already pointed out why Hidan will get his blood in OP and in this post. So there is no need to refute it any more. Kimi does bleed. FYI, manga is black and white. You can't tell. Anime is censored so no blood. I already showed u a cover pic with Kimi's blood.
X factor matters Why? because Kishi said so. Whatever Kishi says goes. This is manga Hidan but remember what Kishi said. He did not SHOW other scythe functions that he was suppose to in the manga. There is a difference between DID NOT SHOW and DID NOT HAVE. This means Hidan can do those scythe tricks as mentioned. Its Kishi's manga after all.
Counters: Refute speed claim: You make baseless subjective claims. Hidan said "I am the slowest AKATSUKI ATTACKER". He has shown movement speed feats by going toe to toe with Kakashi (Refer to the scan of my OP). He has shown quick reflex speed and nimbleness. He was ambushed by Asuma and countered. He was surprised by Shika's shadow knife synergy jutsu but avoided it.
Hidan's scythe: I forgot to put this in my OP but I will put it here. Hidan's attack speed is inhibited by the design and size of the scythe but he compensates for it with 3 things. 1)the area of effect and the number of blades 2)Unpredictability 3)X factor provides versatility: Scythe splitting into 3 will increase Hidan's attack speed because he can use 1 blade instead of 3 (refer to OP X factor).
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^ Take the Abomination's hook as an example. Which hook is likely to hit its target? The one that looks bigger. This is same idea with Hidan's scythe. He will tag Kimi. Hidan's scythe is also UNPREDICTABLE. A drunken boy gave Kimi trouble because he was unpredictable. Hidan has the edge here.
Subjective claims: You use words like "barely kept up", "fatigue", "a clone" and "a lot of help...". How the **** do you know Kakashi was fatigue? Because he lost his Konoha vest? He wasn't fatigue. Kakuzu's elemental justu blasted that shit away. Fatigue means that Kakashi was fighting for a long period of time and then Hidan came a long and took him on. However, that wasn't the case. In fact, HIDAN WAS THE ONE FATIGUE! He just performed a 3 day sealing jutsu with Pein and went straight into battle. It just proves he has immortal stamina. A clone is "The user's chakra is evenly distributed among every clone, giving each clone an equal fraction of the user's overall power." So why are u emphasizing on Hidan fighting clone? lol. Its the same shit. Kakuzu only helped Hidan with 1 heart at a time. Hidan was the main offence. He was vanguard of the duo.
Rank does matter: Yes, I already accepted that Gaara is above genin and Kimimaro got wrecked. Ranks do matter. If not, why did Kishi include them? For aesthetics? If rank didn't matter, Sasuke wouldn't be taking orders from kakashi right from the beginning.
Son of Prime Hiruzen: Asuma is one of the worst? lol. Look at the DB stats on taijutsu and speed and come back to me. And hidan is slower than Asuma. His taijutsu is also not as good as asuma yet he beat him with back up from Shikamaru. Why? Read Hidan's Scythe section. IT IS BECAUSE HIDAN IS UNPREDICTABLE. The scythe gives him the element of surprise. This was why a nerd with 200 IQ prepped to disarm Hidan. He knew that scythe was going to catch top tier taijutsu masters off guard.
Kimi is just as smart as Hidan: I already explained that in my OP. Kimi could have walked around the big block of gaara's strongest defense but he blasted it through shattering his own flower arm jutsu. You expect a guy like him to figure out Hidan's immortality and curse jutsu? So is Kimi the next Shikamaru of the Sound? He has 200 IQ? lol. Please stop. This shit ends here btw. I won't keep repeating the same things over and over again because you can't accept fact. Kimi WILL NOT figure out Hidan's immortality and curse jutsu.
Hidan's personality: You make another baseless claim saying that Hidan is "mindless". Was he mindless when he fought Shikamaru and Asuma? If he was mindless, he would've been caught by Shika's shadow from the get go. Refer to OP again. Hidan is cool, calm and calculated long range. Short range he becomes relentless and violent. Now, you have to be careful of what you say about how Kimi can "outsmart" Hidan. This is not going to happen. Its very disrespectful to 200 IQ Shika. Kimi does not have the brain capacity to comprehend what Hidan has. Hidan also talked shit to Chouji to instigate a fight. Is that mindless? or cunning? Shika knew what Hidan was planning and stopped Chouji in his tracks.
Big Clemantis flower pike is useless against Hidan.Its a big and clumsy weapon. Its a raw power weapon that only has a small area of attack right at the point. Its not very efficient. Funny how people laugh at Hidan's scythe but take this clementis arm shit serious. All the weight is distributed to his forearm and the lethal part of the weapon is at the point. Its very big and heavy. Even the slowest of konoha's ninjas can dodge that shit. Perhaps, this was why Kimi didn't walk around the statue because he knew the weapon was too big and clumsy for him to strike someone as slow as gaara. LOL. Its useless against someone who has great reflex and nimbleness. If Hidan lets Kimi get close, this is what will happen: Hidan will dodge the flower and Kimi will lose balance and fall on his ass swinging that weapon like a caveman. I want to clarify. When i said drill, i didn't mean it functions as a drill. It looks like one but its not. Its basically an inefficient stabbing weapon.
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are you joking? How the **** can you severe limbs with that weapon? It can't even cut a rope. LOL. Look at the point. Its so sharp. Its a stabbing weapon. Even one of KB's fodder swords can do a better job.
Hidan will get Kimi's blood I already pointed out why Hidan will get his blood in OP and in this post. So there is no need to refute it any more. Kimi does bleed. FYI, manga is black and white. You can't tell. Anime is censored so no blood. I already showed u a cover pic with Kimi's blood.
X factor matters Why? because Kishi said so. Whatever Kishi says goes. This is manga Hidan but remember what Kishi said. He did not SHOW other scythe functions that he was suppose to in the manga. There is a difference between DID NOT SHOW and DID NOT HAVE. This means Hidan can do those scythe tricks as mentioned. Its Kishi's manga after all.
I'll say this yet again. You yourself use the databook to prove to me that their intelligence is equal - going by this, Kimimaro is much quicker and a much better Taijutsu fighter than Hidan, whom actually is pretty bad at the latter, for he can't kill anyone with it until he hardly gets a drop of blood which always is an extreme obstacle for him. Just ask Asuma, who didn't know anything about Hidan and despite being an average Taijutsu user, gave him a long, hard time. He's also not fast like I said before, so it's not really a feat to keep up with Asuma, especially because they were stationary (remaining in the same location) throughout their entire fight. In response to "avoiding Shikamaru's shadow jutsu" - he was grabbed by it more than he ever escaped it, yet you use this as a feat of Hidan's "great reaction speed."
Look, he can't react to this:
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Nor to this:
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And keep in mind Shikamaru's worst virtues are hand-to-hand combat, which include speed and reaction times, yet he's subduing Hidan in these characteristics,
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About the X-factor: it doesn't matter if Kishimoto said it or not (and you have to provide proof about it by the way - I could say Kimimaro is a god who can kill everyone one because "Kishi said so" and never provide proof), what matters is literally what is in the manga and the story (kinda funny that you're showing me proof of abilities Hidan never showed with pictures of a MOBA game, yeah, it definitely does not count).
"Ranks do matter because you can give orders" Is each fighter getting their own squad? No, so that is irrelevant in this fight.
As for my "subjective claims": Kakashi's stamina has been known to not be his best virtue, especially in The Immortals arc. Here, Kakashi has been fighting for quite a while using the Sharingan the entire time, and by his own words, it takes him a lot of work to keep up his 3T Sharingan while fighting. Not only he used the Sharingan for quite a while, but many Jutsus and he did receive quite a reasonable amount of damage, and the fact that he used Lightning Clone Technique for it to fight Hidan just multiplied this damage for the clone times two (also reducing its stats significantly because a clone is never as good as the original). He was also keeping up with Kakuzu's masked monsters regardless of being hurt, low on chakra, and after using Sharingan, so he definitely wasn't at his best, and the reader can infer that Kakashi had used an extreme amount of chakra, and hereby, was tired at the very least.
Now, as for "Kimi not figuring out Kimimaro's curse and Immortality Jutsu" - actually, Shikamaru did not figure his Jutsu out, buddy, he figured how to put an end to it - it was obvious after a while when Asuma was fighting him that he was not receiving damage from simple attacks. You're implying that Hidan will use his curse since the beginning - going by this logic, Kimimaro can easily start in CM2 and finish Hidan off with his drill.
About his drill: do I seriously have to repeat myself after putting up obvious examples? A drill that is bigger than a big man's torso would not just make a little hole on Hidan - after drilling in for two seconds, it would split him in half. Imagine a little BB gun shooting a man. It'll most likely just hurt him enough to make him bleed through a little hole. Now, imagine a revolver with huge caliber bullets - it will most likely give your chest a reasonably big hole. Now, imagine a shotgun - it will most likely give you an enormous hole. Now, imagine a cannon that fires bullets that are much bigger than a man's torso - it would destroy him completely and separate his body parts without hesitation. What you're doing here is essentially saying that the huge cannon and the BB gun are the same because they fire ammo. This is delusional thinking that does not make sense neither logically nor fictitiously in any way whatsoever.
"Be careful about saying Kimi will outsmart Hidan" That is not necessary at all. You DO realize Shikamaru is a ninja with Jutsu that is weak in destructive power, right? That is why he had to use strategy and intelligence to deal with him rather than raw power. You can't even compare Shikamaru and Kimimaro in this aspect, therefore, it won't be necessary for Kimimaro to use a lot of intelligence (even if he doesn't have it) against an opponent whom you admitted to not be very bright.
" I already showed u a cover pic with Kimi's blood." Thank you, you proved my point. You're right, you showed me a cover picture of Kimimaro's blood, not a manga scan of this happening. Have you ever seen, before you start reading a manga in any website at all pictures such as Konohamaru with the body of the So6P? Just like the Kimimaro picture that you showed me, these covers are made by artists who are fans of the show and picked by the editors of the uploaders to attract people to read the manga on their website. It's the art you'd find in DevianArt. I couldn't simply grab a picture of Super Saiyan Kimimaro on DevianArt and put it here and tell you that it is valid as a fact.