Death Reaper and FTG

[MickNerks]

Just bare with me for a second and let me explain without flaming me.

In re-reading a previous chapter I learned that Hiruzen has always known about the Reaper Death Seal. I though he only knew it as the Fourth Hokage's jutsu but it seems that he knew of the technique before the 4th even used it. As seen here when hiruzen knows minato used the techniques only from the marking on minato's chest.

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Current chapters have allowed us to understand that the RDS is in fact NOT Minato's technique, but the jutsu of the uzumaki clan. So, it can be said that hiruzen is very knowledgeable of the uzumaki's clans techniques, which shouldnt be too suprising because he is said to master every jutsu that exist in the leaf, and there were powerful uzumaki clan members in the leaf (mito and Kushina).

With that being said, could it be possible that Hiruzen also knows how to do the Flying Thunder God technique. Im not saying that he WOULD ever use it, if he needed to use it do you think it is one of the jutsu in his arsenal. As we have already seen that minato is not the only one capable of the technique.

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So if his body guard know it, im sure he probally taught hiruzen to use it as well. What do you think?

 

[Reaper]

If it hasnt been shown then No

 

[Multiply]

Why would he know it, unless you're saying FTG is an Uzumaki technique...:O

OT: It's possible he knew about it because Kushina taught them both RDS if The Kyuubi got out of her.

 

[MickNerks]

If it hasnt been shown then No

But your logic is flawed.

It hasnt been shown that hashirama can heal without handsigns.
Or that 3rd mizukage was a perfect jinchuuriki

but evidence from manga allows us to believe otherwise.

 

[Itachi Minato]

possibly but i doubt it. It took three people to do it so maybe there is a reason why plus is would be kinda lame if hiruzen could do his signature move

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Thr RDS is an uzumaki tech minato copied it off either kushina mito or maybe hashi knows it

 

[Multiply]

But your logic is flawed.

It hasnt been shown that hashirama can heal without handsigns.
Or that 3rd mizukage was a perfect jinchuuriki

but evidence from manga allows us to believe otherwise.

Your logic is flawed as well. If Hiruzen knew FTG, as you said he did, why not use it against Orochimaru. He knew he was going to die, and he clearly had atleast enough chakra to use it once. He would not have been trapped in the barrier and the fight probably would have ended with a dead Orochimaru or a fleeing Orochimaru with an alive Hiruzen.

 

[MickNerks]

Why would he know it, unless you're saying FTG is an Uzumaki technique...:O

OT: It's possible he knew about it because Kushina taught them both RDS if The Kyuubi got out of her.

Hiruzen was said to know every jutsu that exsist in the leaf. Im not saying that he's ever used it. Im just saying is it possible (which it is) that he knows the sealing formula and how to produce the technique if needed.

 

[MickNerks]

Your logic is flawed as well. If Hiruzen knew FTG, as you said he did, why not use it against Orochimaru. He knew he was going to die, and he clearly had atleast enough chakra to use it once. He would not have been trapped in the barrier and the fight probably would have ended with a dead Orochimaru or a fleeing Orochimaru with an alive Hiruzen.

It wouldnt be right for the story and there was no reason for him to use it. You dont know how much chakra it consumes.

Im just asking is it possible that he knew the mechnics behind the techinique. You are looking way to far into this.

Im not saying is he capable of spaming it in battle im just asking could he have known it like minato's bodyguards knew it.

 

[MickNerks]

Your logic is flawed as well. If Hiruzen knew FTG, as you said he did, why not use it against Orochimaru. He knew he was going to die, and he clearly had atleast enough chakra to use it once. He would not have been trapped in the barrier and the fight probably would have ended with a dead Orochimaru or a fleeing Orochimaru with an alive Hiruzen.

You also dont seem to know how FTG works. There was no way to get out of that barrier without something on the outside having the formula of it for him to FTG too.

And why do you expect for hiruzen at the age of 75 to use ever jutsu he knows. Do you not realize his chakra levels were garbage at his age.

Do you think if muhammad ali stepped in the ring with floyd maywheather that ali would be as fast, strong, and have as much stamina he did in his prime?

Hiruzen was old!!!

 

[FleeOnSight]

Hiruzen is one person. Last time I checked if you not minato you need three people to preform it. So no.

 

[MickNerks]

Hiruzen is one person. Last time I checked if you not minato you need three people to preform it. So no.

Even if he cant do it, do you think he knows how it works.

And are you trying to imply the hiruzen is only as talented as 3 fodder ninja gaurds?

 

[Itachi Minato]

Even if he cant do it, do you think he knows how it works.

And are you trying to imply the hiruzen is only as talented as 3 fodder ninja gaurds?

im sure he knows how it works and of course hiruzen is more talented. You must also remember minato had amazing reflexes which is why he was so useful with it. I reckon hiruzen COULD do it

 

[FleeOnSight]

Even if he cant do it, do you think he knows how it works.

And are you trying to imply the hiruzen is only as talented as 3 fodder ninja gaurds?

I seriously doubt hiruzen knows ftg.

Ok let's look at it like this. Jiraiya was his sensei. He taught jiraiya rasengan. But no where in the manga did it say he taught or jiraiya knew ftg. Ftg is his signature technique. If anything hiruzen could probably perform rasengan. But not ftg. Those three fodder were minatos guards. They were with him everyday all day until his death. Hiruzen was not.

It's only right this his own body guards know his technique. Rasengan was probably too advanced for them as you can see it takes all three to perform ftg. Ftg is based off a Kunai. Which no one has seen since his death. If hiruzen knew that tech he'd probably have a ftg Kunai hanging around.

One more thing. Minato "created" ftg based off the seals that kushina taught him. It's his creation and his technique. Not the uzumakis. So you can't say hiruzen knows ftg cause he knows rds.

Oh and yes old hiruzen = 3 fodder Kage guards

 

[MickNerks]

I seriously doubt hiruzen knows ftg.

Ok let's look at it like this. Jiraiya was his sensei. He taught jiraiya rasengan. But no where in the manga did it say he taught or jiraiya knew ftg. Ftg is his signature technique. If anything hiruzen could probably perform rasengan. But not ftg. Those three fodder were minatos guards. They were with him everyday all day until his death. Hiruzen was not.

It's only right this his own body guards know his technique. Rasengan was probably too advanced for them as you can see it takes all three to perform ftg. Ftg is based off a Kunai. Which no one has seen since his death. If hiruzen knew that tech he'd probably have a ftg Kunai hanging around.

One more thing. Minato "created" ftg based off the seals that kushina taught him. It's his creation and his technique. Not the uzumakis. So you can't say hiruzen knows ftg cause he knows rds.

Oh and yes old hiruzen = 3 fodder Kage guards

Hmmm.. It seems i have met a hashirama fanboy..

To say old hiruzen = 3 fodder kage gaurds, is also implying those 3 fodder kage gaurd could single-handedly stop edo hash, edo tobi, and orochimaru from destroying the hidden leaf. None of your logic connects and i believe you are solely going of you rown beliefs without any support from the manga.

I strongly disagree with everything you have said. But its ok if we disagree.

 

[KidGamer65]

He has no reason to teach Hiruzen FTG, he taught his bodyguards FTG because they are his bodyguards, they are supposed to protect him. Hence Tsunade being marked with the FTG seal, so the bodyguards can get to her when she is in trouble.

 

[MarkPaul]

I'd go with possible. We dontknow yet because we dont have proof yet.