Death Note vs Monster

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Two of the most acclaimed psychological genre representatives out there. Which do you personally appreciate more? Which has a darker, more grim story and general feel? Which has more complex characters? As for characters:
- Light or Johan
- L or Lunge
 

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Johan = Best villain I've ever seen.

I like Lunge more since he's a workaholic like I am, but L's the better character imo.
 

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Why does it have to be a competition? Both are equally good.
 

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They're definitely thrillers, but I wouldn't go so far as to label them psychological thrillers, cause that's putting them in the same pool as Serial Experiments Lain.

Monster is the better series and is higher on my personal list, but Death Note was the first anime I ever watched in full, so I'll always have a special place for it in my heart.

Monster is consistently ominous and that stems mainly from Johan being mostly secluded to the shadows, making his appearances that much more intense. Death Note actually focuses on the antagonist and what he's thinking at all times, which kinda works against it in that regard. It's certainly more intense where the cat-and-mouse aspect is concerned, but it's an especially grim storyline, at least all the way through. Not to mention it has a lot more lighthearted moments than Monster ever did.

As for characters, Tenma and Nina's journey into darkness and Johan's sheer brilliance as a villain kick it up a notch, but I only consider Johan an all-timer. Light and L are both top contenders where best anime characters are concerned and Light's journey as a character is pretty much unrivalled, plus a good deal of their team have varying levels of complexity to them, as well, so I give this one to Death Note.

Light and Johan is a tough one. As a well-rounded character, Light's almost par-none, but Johan is just so good as a villain that it makes the virtual lack of reasoning for his evilness acceptable. I give to Johan any day.

Lunge was a great secondary antagonist and I really liked his characterization, but c'mon, how can you not love L? No freakin' contest. lol
 
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I haven't watched monster yet so my opinion will obviously be biased lol.
 

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They're definitely thrillers, but I wouldn't go so far as to label them psychological thrillers, cause that's putting them in the same pool as Serial Experiments Lain.

Monster is the better series and is higher on my personal list, but Death Note was the first anime I ever watched in full, so I'll always have a special place for it in my heart.

Monster is consistently ominous and that stems mainly from Johan being mostly secluded to the shadows, making his appearances that much more intense. Death Note actually focuses on the antagonist and what he's thinking at all times, which kinda works against it in that regard. It's certainly more intense where the cat-and-mouse aspect is concerned, but it's an especially grim storyline, at least all the way through. Not to mention it has a lot more lighthearted moments than Monster ever did.

As for characters, Tenma and Nina's journey into darkness and Johan's sheer brilliance as a villain kick it up a notch, but I only consider Johan an all-timer. Light and L are both top contenders where best anime characters are concerned and Light's journey as a character is pretty much unrivalled, plus a good deal of their team have varying levels of complexity to them, as well, so I give this one to Death Note.

Light and Johan is a tough one. As a well-rounded character, Light's almost par-none, but Johan is just so good as a villain that it makes the virtual lack of reasoning for his evilness acceptable. I give to Johan any day.

Lunge was a great secondary antagonist and I really liked his characterization, but c'mon, how can you not love L? No freakin' contest. lol

One note: Light is an anti-hero, not an antagonist.

OT: I've only gotten to episode 12 of Monster and then stopped. From what I've heard, it's the much better story and Johan wrecks when it comes to villains.
 

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One note: Light is an anti-hero, not an antagonist.

OT: I've only gotten to episode 12 of Monster and then stopped. From what I've heard, it's the much better story and Johan wrecks when it comes to villains.

Eh, by virtue of the fact that he's the center of the story, but in the end, he's certainly the villain in that whole mess.

Oh come on, man, you can't stop there. Yeah, it's 74 episodes, but even FMAB had some slow moments.



@Lord Uchiha 06 - Yeah, but the same applies to when you watch a prequel series like Fate/Zero or Samurai X: Trust & Betrayal. It's obvious how they end, but you still watch them to see how things turn out that way. The ending means nothing unless you know how the characters reached that point, man.
 
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Monster takes the cake. Johan is too good.
 

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Two of the most acclaimed psychological genre representatives out there. Which do you personally appreciate more? Which has a darker, more grim story and general feel? Which has more complex characters? As for characters:
- Light or Johan
- L or Lunge

Monster is darker because it is far more realistic. I prefer Death Note due to the clever tactics between the conflict of the main characters. However, I really like Monster's philosophical plot.

Johan > Light
L > Lunge

RIP GRIMMER WAAAAAAA
 

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Monster laughable diff no doubt.

Lunge > L
Johan > Light
Tenma and Nina solo.
 

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Haven't seen/read Monster. I know what it is but it's just too old for me to get into it.
Deathnote is one of my favs tough.
 
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