[Game] Death Note Mafia #21 - Game Thread

[TheLukundo]

I think scum are inactive off of a first glance because I feel I would’ve been pushed for being inactive by now.

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

mostly shanks alice luk and you

I didn't like how alice defended mich last day i seemed like TMI to me

I dont care if you like it or not. TMI? I dont know how to do that. Thank You.

Red walks around te new spesimen intreguied by thier existance.

Prove something? Do you know what happened last night junior? We lost 3 bloody comrads! And you think I'm trying to prove to you that I'm not scum? Why do I have to prove anything!? I could care less what you think!! I am trying to find Kira and his goons and based off the death of 3 of our comrads we have very little do go off. Now if you got any legitament reason why you suspect Ansa, I'm all ears. But if your going to come in this office and play investigator, I will not hesitate to leave my vote with you. You understand me partner?

I kinda like this reaction from Rhed. Pure and on point.

I EXIST

Im curious Luk who's on your suspect list aside from Ansatsuken. This is an obsession to be honest.

 

[BoiNez]

Just so you know @Ansatsuken look at pages 36 through 39, that's where I got most of my "evidence."

 

[TheLukundo]

I dont care if you like it or not. TMI? I dont know how to do that. Thank You.



I kinda like this reaction from Rhed. Pure and on point.





Im curious Luk who's on your suspect list aside from Ansatsuken. This is an obsession to be honest.

You and that might be it.

 

[TheLukundo]

Also there might just be one scum left.

 

[TheLukundo]

Say Rej was modkilled and scum and one of the other deaths were scum. That leaves one scum left.

 

[BoiNez]

Say Rej was modkilled and scum and one of the other deaths was scum. That leaves one scum left.

That just means, one of us is scum, and once we find out who the scum is everybody else wins. So whoever the scum is, admit it.

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

Say Rej was modkilled and scum and one of the other deaths were scum. That leaves one scum left.

. The hosts will tell if its a modkill. If its the case.. Then good.

That just means, one of us is scum, and once we find out who the scum is everybody else wins. So whoever the scum is, admit it.

. Admit it then Paperboi.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Just so you know @Ansatsuken look at pages 36 through 39, that's where I got most of my "evidence."

What kind of evidence? And how is that an evidence? In what way?

Be more specific please(quote the posts) so I can understand how your idea on me was forming much better.

Because after looking at page 36 to page 39 I didn't see anything very suspicious there(from any post of mine)

 

[Ansatsuken]

Please don't avoiding. Avoiding is an act of scum you hear that? So respond to my request.

So you also voted me based on feeling and not clear cut evidence. There's no evidence from you but just feeling in play.

You've asked me to show you the evidence but you didn't provide me a ground to start. And now you said "page 36 to 39" are your evidence. What are you playing on here?

@PaperBoiKonan

 

[BoiNez]

Please don't avoiding. Avoiding is an act of scum you hear that? So respond to my request.

So you also voted me based on feeling and not clear cut evidence. There's no evidence from you but just feeling in play.

You've asked me to show you the evidence but you didn't provide me a ground to start. And now you said "page 36 to 39" are your evidence. What are you playing on here?

@PaperBoiKonan

It takes a lot of time for me to gather all my evidence so I will do that when I have enough time. Hopefully later today.

 

[Ansatsuken]

It takes a lot of time for me to gather all my evidence so I will do that when I have enough time. Hopefully later today.

Do it fast before EoD reaching closer

 

[BoiNez]

@Ansatsuken here is my evidence

Wow, what a choice of players to kill.

This comment makes me think that you killed those players for a certain reason, after you found out their roles, if you are cannibal.

My case on her based on her contribution inside this game and how she played a "reluctant" game. She said this/that but never walk the talk. Also I feel she's avoiding every times. My reason to suspect her was different than SK or Red.

I actually wanted to lynch Rej more than Michelle. Both were my suspects in the previous DP.

To say I'm a team mate of SK you need to be 100% correct that SK is Mafia. You can't use "could", you need to be 100% correct.

You say that you wanted to lynch Rej, but Rej was killed. Now I don't know if this actually makes sense but it looks to me like you killed him, instead of lynching him, just so you could get 2 people out of the way.

What?

That post is meant for Sagebee. Please Let him explain to me his line of logic.

If he wants to help town he should cooperate.

Now this, this is a threat. You are saying that if Sagebee wants to sound like town, he should cooperate. So it sounded like if he didn't yuo were gonna vote him, or maybe kill him.

If Red is gunsmith so the reason scum didn't kill her I think maybe they think Red is not a threat to them.

You are speaking from killer's perspective. How else would you know that she wasn't a threat to the killers? And also I know from my second game that most Killers, don't kill the people that would make them seem suspicious, but they would in fact, kill a sometimes even random person to throw people off their trail. So a killer wouldn't kill the gunsmith, but would probably wait until they started suspecting one of the killers.

So you think all the players who died in the previous night were town? And no possibility of scum at all?

This also sounds like killer perspective. Almost as if you're teasing that you know that one of the killed people was scum.

I think scum are inactive off of a first glance because I feel I would’ve been pushed for being inactive by now.

If the scum were being pushed and suspected for being inactive, then they wouldn't act that way. They would act and interact with town, and slowly kill everybody off. So maybe, and this is just a probability, your activeness is fake and you're really scum.
So tell me if any of this doesn't make sense. If it doesn't I'll try to explain my reasoning more, when I have time.

 

[Sagebee]

So All_Red never a town to you?

Yes never given ne to believe otherwise and why lynch conan? He gives me newbie vibes and be a waste to hold his actions against him especially when we have more credible suspects.

 

[Ansatsuken]

@Ansatsuken here is my evidence

So these is your so called evidence. Ok I will address it one by one.

This comment makes me think that you killed those players for a certain reason, after you found out their roles, if you are cannibal.

So you said I killed all those players? How a single role can kill more than one player in a one night? I know one role that can kill more than one player in the single attack, thats Arsonist. But they need to douse many player first. They cant douse and ignite the victim inside the same night.

Second, there's no sign of Arsonist inside this game. The killing that already happened itself disprove the existence of Arsonist. So just let this idea die.

Third, in what way I can found their role? If you think I'm mafia, mafia inside this game just a vanilla mafia. Vanilla mafia doesn't have any special ability like investigation ability for example. Same with Serial Killer. Their ability is only killing. They can't investigate. So anything you've say/think about me is not right.

My response just shown how I'm surprised with the choice of players they chose to kill. Rej maybe not really surprising but SoulKiller and Raunix.

You say that you wanted to lynch Rej, but Rej was killed. Now I don't know if this actually makes sense but it looks to me like you killed him, instead of lynching him, just so you could get 2 people out of the way.

Yes I've said that I want to lynch Rej more than Michelle. But I couldn't get proper info/reaction/evidence from Rej to build a case on him. It being driven by 70% feeling and 30% read. So not really quite strong to suspect him. Plus no one supported the idea of lynching Rej in the 1DP eventhough AL and SK have him as Scum lean.

And no, killing my suspect/target player in the night is not my style even if I'm Mafia/SK. I still prefer to lynch them. Example: in Mangaka game where I'm a mafia my target to kill/lynch was Lukundo but I didn't kill him at night but I lynched him.

So again you're completely wrong.

And what do you mean by "just so you could get 2 people out of the way."?

You meant Michelle and Rej? If you meant Michelle, I tried my best to help her out of her situation but she didn't cooperate very well. I even asked her about her position on Lukundo. She said she became unsure about Lukundo's scum position. And she back to vote Elmage again in the last minutes. I only can without able to do anything.

Now this, this is a threat. You are saying that if Sagebee wants to sound like town, he should cooperate. So it sounded like if he didn't yuo were gonna vote him, or maybe kill him.

You understand/see it wrong dude. I never push scum perspective on Sagebee inside this game I pushed Sagebee on townie perspective. Because I see him as town.

Sagebee for me is the strongest town read we have, from his tone in this game to his game play. What's the point for me suspecting strong town?

If he don't want to cooperate he just being a let down to town team. It doesn't have anything to do with scum or scum reading him just because he failed to give better cooperation.

I only want him to be more understandable and easy to understand by other players, that's all. No bad intention.

You are speaking from killer's perspective. How else would you know that she wasn't a threat to the killers? And also I know from my second game that most Killers, don't kill the people that would make them seem suspicious, but they would in fact, kill a sometimes even random person to throw people off their trail. So a killer wouldn't kill the gunsmith, but would probably wait until they started suspecting one of the killers.

Wow thats unjustified words throwing at me.

How you get the idea that I'm talking from killer's perspective? And I never confirmed to anyone that Red is not threat to scum. You can see there I'm using word "maybe". That means a probability speaking. Why I think it could be the case?

Red used vibes to lynch Michelle and she gets mislynch in return. So I think scum could be thinking "this girl still not get her scum hunting mind right so she's not bigger threat yet and should be kept alive"

I'm not saying Red is not a good scum hunter. She's good and capable scum hunter.

It depends on the player themself. Wolf sometimes killed people who heavily suspecting them ASAP. For example: AngelusSama in the previous game. That dude suspecting SoulKiller very high and SoulKiller killed him in the following night. Dude only able to play for a one day.

Ok if I follow your line of logic Rej should still alive and I should be dead or other player. But the point is Rej should still alive if he's scum. Why? Using your line of logic here;

And also I know from my second game that most Killers, don't kill the people that would make them seem suspicious, but they would in fact, kill a sometimes even random person to throw people off their trail

I've suspecting Rej in the previous DP. I think he's scum. So if Rej is scum I shouldn't be scum because I suspecting him and now he's dead. And if I'm a scum and for your logic to work someone need to suspect me first. Yes I see Lukundo but I've learned to ignore him. He could be scum, who knows.

and there's no specific way to tell how scum play. It involves many variables.

Who are you referring gunsmith to?

This also sounds like killer perspective. Almost as if you're teasing that you know that one of the killed people was scum.

How's that a teasing? It just me trying to get people's opinion by questioning them. Is that a wrong thing to do? I'm not asking about something that's very clear or semi clear but something that's very not clear. Asking about possibility. Not stating a clue to tease people.


You just overthinking it dude.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Yes never given ne to believe otherwise and why lynch conan? He gives me newbie vibes and be a waste to hold his actions against him especially when we have more credible suspects.

Ok I unvote for now. I need to read his response to my latest post first before I decide.

Unvote

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

vote lynch @Shanks

Out of all player Al? I mean.. He's not posting and participating but the chance that he's a tiwnie still a 50 50 a worth to look for. And im leaving it to the host if he wants to Modkill him now. Whatever he's faction might be.
I dont really like this vote.

If Red is innocent, then that leaves Ansa as my main suspect. I believe that Red is innocent for reasons that she screamed at me, leaving only Ansa. My reasons for suspecting are as follows

• He does seem scummy and not wanting to prove his role as a town
• He does want to seem to have Sagebee be one of the killer types, trying to hide when Al was suspecting instead trying to put Sagebee on the spot

Therefore VoteLynch:Ansatsuken

I swear if I use that logic.. SoulKiller will always be scum in my eyes in every game. I dont like this weak reasoning.
Like so.. We should always scream at you then we all Town lean now in your eyes?

I'm assuming the point your trying to make is it's a town role town cant kill so cant possibly have a gun. And I'm telling you if you didn't conveniently crop her role it shows her character is a cop and what do cops have? Guns.

Do you smoke weed whike playing Mafia Sage? I mean no offence meant. The gunsmitht mechanics etc.. I can understand. But this? Its like you're just confusing us at this point.. But what is the point of this post actually. None.

So far, I'm only suspicious of Sagebee and Ansa. I haven't heard enough action from other players to really know or think that they're a suspect at this point. And no Sagebee, I wasn't trying to get your reaction, I just wanted to see your case of why you're innocent.

Alice isn't saying much, Al seems decently innocent, although maybe I might be able to dig up some more evidence against him, and The Lukundo, I need to hear more from him because right now he seems innocent.

Sometimes i can be talkative. Sometimes dont speak at all.
Since when6 he's innocent? because he didn't post much?

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

In your defence Paper.. Ansatsuken sound too defensive but not too much that i need to vote for him.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Out of all player Al? I mean.. He's not posting and participating but the chance that he's a tiwnie still a 50 50 a worth to look for. And im leaving it to the host if he wants to Modkill him now. Whatever he's faction might be.
I dont really like this vote.




I swear if I use that logic.. SoulKiller will always be scum in my eyes in every game. I dont like this weak reasoning.
Like so.. We should always scream at you then we all Town lean now in your eyes?




Do you smoke weed whike playing Mafia Sage? I mean no offence meant. The gunsmitht mechanics etc.. I can understand. But this? Its like you're just confusing us at this point.. But what is the point of this post actually. None.






Sometimes i can be talkative. Sometimes dont speak at all.
Since when6 he's innocent? because he didn't post much?

Tbh I'm going to wait for Konan's response first. If he is not changing his mind after reading my explanation that means he not really trying to understand it. And I will take some measure

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

Tbh I'm going to wait for Konan's response first. If he is not changing his mind after reading my explanation that means he not really trying to understand it. And I will take some measure

I have this 70 percent scum read 30 town on Elmage. And Paper said it by himself that he didn't actually read thoroughly all the posts. As a townie.. You shouldn't do that. That's irresponsible. The only reason i could think of is that he is a Scum.