DBZ one of worst animes ever

[spartan001]

And....SHAZAM I'm back (still feeling proud to be the fifth person to post in this thread )

 

[Uzamki Seerar]

dbz was a legend sure it might of had bad stories but the super sayian thing was a twist n nthing in anime history is like it lol its good but u gotta understand the target aduience lol like little kids with amazing graphics n fighting on steriods lool n naruto shippuden target is moslty teens so we need a brian twister n stradiges den to beat up some one to win caus dats not really relistic if u think bout it gohan got a big head wen ssj2 vs cell den cell said **** it im gonna explode imagine if it ended like dat lool

 

[CryInaBox]

Yea because in basically every single other manga anime the main character wins occasionally right?!?

When was the last time naruto lost a fight?! Agaisnt sasuke at the valley? That was the only L he ever took ever!! Yea cuz naruto isnt getting stronger and stronger after each chapter right?

U can think of a thousand of million shows that deserve the legendary status that dbz is but fact of the matter is that there is only 1 dbz n it has the acknowledgement of being legendary. Just read the 200+ previois posts. U think this is hype?!? U serious?

No need for me to continue you obviously have never read or watch dbz fully so your opinion on the subject matter is unvalid

yea? well ok, my "unvalid" opinion says that im sure more than just a few people think that dbz isnt all that amazing, theyre just scared to say cause they dun wanna get flamed ;o

but ya...nice talking with you

 

[asad70ful]

i said before and saying again
no one can beat dbz in anime world
one thing more dbz characters r the strongest character in anime world,dbz warriors can make holes in the ass of universe especially goku,vegeta,majin buu

 

[Caliburn]

So I used to watch DBZ when I was younger and thought it was the best thing ever(who on here didnt); but looking back I realize its probably one of the worst animes ever made. Horrible story line and no character development whatsoever.

I mean practically all the main villains (frieza, buu, etc..) had no motive and just wanted to destroy the world just because. No depth to any of the characters, no backstory on the villains everything is just black and white. Either evil or good.

In naruto and other animes countless episodes are spent developing the main characters and the villains and how they became the villain. I mean all of naruto is about how Sasuke grows into a villain. DBZ is just a very simplistic anime.Only thing going to DBZ was the action. Im just saiyin (lol see wat I did there)...


***UPDATE***

Also its probably not THE worst one out there cuz there's lots of animes and probably really bad ones that no ones even see but it definitely isn't one of the good ones.

Ok stop telling me about how Kishi got inspiration for Naruto from DBZ I know this already and I knew it before I made the thread. Doesn't change these facts:

FACT: DBZ has weak plot. If a 5 year old can grasp the plot then its not a very deep and meaningful plot.
FACT: DBZ is repetitive. I can sum up every saga of DBZ in about one paragraph which i will do down below.
FACT: DBZ villains and heroes depth ( they are either good or bad) no gray areas. The only exception to this was Vegeta who started out all bad then became good
FACT: DBZ fights were drawn out and boring, just raw power VS raw power no strategies involved at all?
FACT: you DBZ fanboys are just letting nostalgia take over your emotions. Stop getting your panties in a twist

Here is every DBZ saga in a nutshell

Scene of Goku and his friends all happy and relaxed. OH NO! enter powerful alien headed to earth. TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN. finally after a month of episodes villian reaches destination. Good guys fight villian. Villain transforms into different form. Pwns heroes. Everyone lies on ground waiting for Goku to come save them. Goku arrives. Kicks ass. Villian transforms AGAIN. Kicks gokus ass. Goku turns super saiyan and kicks ass. Oh look ANOTHER F-ing transformation. Fight drags on. Both Goku and Villian pretty beat up; Goku finished day with Spirit bomb. Everyone uses dragonballs to irreverse every bad thing that happened. Then Scene of Goku and his friends all happy and relaxed. OH NO! enter powerful alien headed to earth. REPEAT

You should be ashamed, truly truly ashamed of yourself. Nostalgia? It's much more than that and what you just did is not only a complete taboo, but you just broke one of the most fundamental rules of history and as a result your entire opinion is not credible. What you're doing is being anachronistic, you impose values, opinions and ways to view at things from the current time on something from the past completely disregarding the context in which it was originally created. If you would do that in historical societies, you would be criticized to the ground and you would loose any kind of credibility as it's completely wrong, it's something you just don't do as you blame and accuse people of things that are odd in our current society, but weren't at the time it was originally made. With other words you're being unreasonable. You say that sucks, that sucks and that sucks. If all that was so bad, how come it's one of the most important, if not the most important anime of all time?

What you're doing is no different from saying that the original Star Wars utterly sucks. The quality is horrible, the special effects are archaic and the plot is nothing special either. Still it's considered one of the best movies in history. Why? Because it's a milestone, a landmark in the history of film making. The influence it had was massive and it's exactly the same for Dragonball and DBZ. You are extremely narrow minded as you completely disregarded its influence and the context in which it was created and aired on TV. That you don't like DBZ that's your opinion. Yes there are a lot of things wrong with DBZ, yes the plot is repetitive, yes it doesn't have much depth, yes the balance of power in DBZ is completely messed up and yes DBZ contains a lot of contradictions. So? Apparently you are under the impression that that actually still matters. It does not, it's worthless, irrelevant, not needed. Everything you said is completely worthless, all of that doesn't matter anymore. There are countless of books and movies that became almost legendary, but got criticized years later because the way you look at things always changes. But that never took away their status. It doesn't matter how bad you find the plot now, it doesn't matter how repetitive you see it now as none of that changes the importance DB and DBZ had on the world of anime and manga when they were released. DBZ is a milestone.

That's what makes DBZ DBZ, all your criticism about the plot and its characters is just not relevant anymore, you're 10 years too late for that. If I would make an objective comparison between for instance Naruto and DBZ, Naruto would probably do better than DBZ. Still I would see DBZ of something completely different than Naruto for the simple fact that Naruto is in a certain way the result of DB and DBZ. It predates Naruto. Kishimoto, Oda, Hiro...they all have said that they grew up with DB and DBZ and they're not the only ones. An entire generation got inspired by Goku. The similarities between Naruto, Goku and Luffy are so clear it doesn't even have to be mentioned. Nor Naruto, nor One Piece, nor Fairy Tail or any other manga/anime for that matter can at this point say that, no matter how popular they are atm, they can't claim that they inspired an entire generation unlike DBZ.

You should be ashamed as a manga reader and an anime watcher that you reduced DBZ to just criticizing its plot and characters and completely ignoring the influence it had and its value. In my country the manga/anime culture hasn't really been that wide spread, however already 10 years ago DBZ was something known by even adults. I remember how I woke up early on sunday morning to watch DBZ as each sunday they aired 5 consecutive DBZ episodes and often my dad started to watch with me too. It's the same for Pokémon. How much did Ash's personality change during the course of all those seasons? Barely and Pokémon is probably the most repetitive anime in existence. You want me to summarize that? Ash collects badges and each episode Team Rocket gets blasted away. Still just like DBZ Pokémon is something that influenced the world and an entire generation. Then your criticism about its plot and characters is so minimal, so useless it might as well be completely ignored as it has no relevance.

And still I yearn for something like DBZ. These days anime episodes are cheaply mass-produced. The quality of things like DBZ and Gundam Wing are, even seen by modern standards, on a whole different level than the crap we get today.

That you call yourself an anime watcher and manga reader...it's truly embarrassing. You lack any kind of insight in the history of the anime and manga world. DBZ is an icon, it's something a lot of people grew up with. DBZ is the reason as how I personally ended up watching anime and reading manga. DBZ is a milestone, an icon, something that paved the way for things like Naruto and One Piece. That's why people look up to DBZ in such a way, your critics at this point are just utterly worthless. That's not just nostalgia, it's way bigger than that, but the fact that you don't even understand that is really sad. In fact you even confirmed it yourself by saying you thought it was the best anime at that time, but now you find it one of the worst. How come? Because you're using knowledge you gained by watching animes that appeared after DBZ was already finished to criticize it...that's just weak as those same animes owe DBZ. DBZ doesn't owe Naruto or One Piece anything, however they owe DBZ as they're the result of DBZ. If DBZ didn't exist, both Naruto and One Piece would have looked differently or maybe never existed in the first place. That's what made DBZ so great and it's sad that you didn't even realize that. So the main reason as why you were even able to give those critics was due to the influence of DBZ itself, so by actually criticizing DBZ like that and ignoring its status, you just invalidated your own comments as those are the result of DBZ. Talking about irony.

I'm never going to claim that DBZ had the best plot or character development or whatever, though I value what it symbolized and the effect it had, which was on a scale none of the current animes have reached yet.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

You should be ashamed, truly truly ashamed of yourself. Nostalgia? It's much more than that and what you just did is not only a complete taboo, but you just broke one of the most fundamental rules of history and as a result your entire opinion is not credible. What you're doing is being anachronistic, you impose values, opinions and ways to view at things from the current time on something from the past completely disregarding the context in which it was originally created. If you would do that in historical societies, you would be criticized to the ground and you would loose any kind of credibility as it's completely wrong, it's something you just don't do as you blame and accuse people of things that are odd in our current society, but weren't at the time it was originally made. With other words you're being unreasonable. You say that sucks, that sucks and that sucks. If all that was so bad, how come it's one of the most important, if not the most important anime of all time?

What you're doing is no different from saying that the original Star Wars utterly sucks. The quality is horrible, the special effects are archaic and the plot is nothing special either. Still it's considered one of the best movies in history. Why? Because it's a milestone, a landmark in the history of film making. The influence it had was massive and it's exactly the same for Dragonball and DBZ. You are extremely narrow minded as you completely disregarded its influence and the context in which it was created and aired on TV. That you don't like DBZ that's your opinion. Yes there are a lot of things wrong with DBZ, yes the plot is repetitive, yes it doesn't have much depth, yes the balance of power in DBZ is completely messed up and yes DBZ contains a lot of contradictions. So? Apparently you are under the impression that that actually still matters. It does not, it's worthless, irrelevant, not needed. Everything you said is completely worthless, all of that doesn't matter anymore. There are countless of books and movies that became almost legendary, but got criticized years later because the way you look at things always changes. But that never took away their status. It doesn't matter how bad you find the plot now, it doesn't matter how repetitive you see it now as none of that changes the importance DB and DBZ had on the world of anime and manga when they were released. DBZ is a milestone.

That's what makes DBZ DBZ, all your criticism about the plot and its characters is just not relevant anymore, you're 10 years too late for that. If I would make an objective comparison between for instance Naruto and DBZ, Naruto would probably do better than DBZ. Still I would see DBZ of something completely different than Naruto for the simple fact that Naruto is in a certain way the result of DB and DBZ. It predates Naruto. Kishimoto, Oda, Hiro...they all have said that they grew up with DB and DBZ and they're not the only ones. An entire generation got inspired by Goku. The similarities between Naruto, Goku and Luffy are so clear it doesn't even have to be mentioned. Nor Naruto, nor One Piece, nor Fairy Tail or any other manga/anime for that matter can at this point say that, no matter how popular they are atm, they can't claim that they inspired an entire generation unlike DBZ.

You should be ashamed as a manga reader and an anime watcher that you reduced DBZ to just criticizing its plot and characters and completely ignoring the influence it had and its value. In my country the manga/anime culture hasn't really been that wide spread, however already 10 years ago DBZ was something known by even adults. I remember how I woke up early on sunday morning to watch DBZ as each sunday they aired 5 consecutive DBZ episodes and often my dad started to watch with me too. It's the same for Pokémon. How much did Ash's personality change during the course of all those seasons? Barely and Pokémon is probably the most repetitive anime in existence. You want me to summarize that? Ash collects badges and each episode Team Rocket gets blasted away. Still just like DBZ Pokémon is something that influenced the world and an entire generation. Then your criticism about its plot and characters is so minimal, so useless it might as well be completely ignored as it has no relevance.

And still I yearn for something like DBZ. These days anime episodes are cheaply mass-produced. The quality of things like DBZ and Gundam Wing are, even seen by modern standards, on a whole different level than the crap we get today.

That you call yourself an anime watcher and manga reader...it's truly embarrassing. You lack any kind of insight in the history of the anime and manga world. DBZ is an icon, it's something a lot of people grew up with. DBZ is the reason as how I personally ended up watching anime and reading manga. DBZ is a milestone, an icon, something that paved the way for things like Naruto and One Piece. That's why people look up to DBZ in such a way, your critics at this point are just utterly worthless. That's not just nostalgia, it's way bigger than that, but the fact that you don't even understand that is really sad. In fact you even confirmed it yourself by saying you thought it was the best anime at that time, but now you find it one of the worst. How come? Because you're using knowledge you gained by watching animes that appeared after DBZ was already finished to criticize it...that's just weak as those same animes owe DBZ. DBZ doesn't owe Naruto or One Piece anything, however they owe DBZ as they're the result of DBZ. If DBZ didn't exist, both Naruto and One Piece would have looked differently or maybe never existed in the first place. That's what made DBZ so great and it's sad that you didn't even realize that. So the main reason as why you were even able to give those critics was due to the influence of DBZ itself, so by actually criticizing DBZ like that and ignoring its status, you just invalidated your own comments as those are the result of DBZ. Talking about irony.

I'm never going to claim that DBZ had the best plot or character development or whatever, though I value what it symbolized and the effect it had, which was on a scale none of the current animes have reached yet.

Massive + reps to you caliburn, you just said what i couldnt even put into words although ive got to be honest while i was watching DBZ and it was only last year i was thinking WTF is this as naruto is the only anime i watch and it rocks, although ive got to say i was drawn in by DBZ and was watching like 10 episodes a day lol so no it cant be that rubbish

 

[deepak]

DBZ is like a legend dude.. It made the manga world famous across the globe... without it, today manga might not have been noticed at all...


It was like the invention of electric bulb....You can say that electric bulbs are stupid and consumes more power becoz we have lots of CFLs and stuff... but at the time of no light during night, electric bulb was a major leap in the life of people.....DBZ is like that....


Still people yearn for more episodes of DBZ....

 

[Gary777]

DBZ is the best yah!

this is xd

 

[onecruz]

For simplicity, DBZ has a very predictable storyline... BUT HOLD IT...
it was MADE / AIRED 1984 TO 1995.
YOU CANT JUST COMPARE it to NARUTO.

DBZ is Kishimoto's INSPIRATION/IDEAS to creating NARUTO that we like. (Just to mention a few)
- Goku's color uniform <> Naruto uniform
- Supersaiyan hair <> Naruto hair
- Supersaiyan glow <> Naruto chakra mode, Kyubi mode
- Character Attributes (Brave and Jolly Goku/Naruto; Snobbish Vegeta/Sasuke etc)
- Goku SS4 colors <> Naruto Sage mode

About NARUTO VS GOKU
... I like them both. surely a tail-wag from its tailed-beast can create ocean waves BUT as for now... GOKU will win: (again, i like to make some points)
- if other DBZ characters like Frieza or Vegeta can destroy planets.. of course Goku.. can do more.
- Goku has interspace (Earth, Heaven) and interplanetary Teleportation.
- Goku can harness energy from other planets using Sipirit Bomb/Genki Dama
- Blast a Kamehameha wave into the sun

Like you said, yes its true DBZ is drawn from raw power vs raw power... while Naruto is flexibly strategic. that is what writters called ORIGINAL CONCEPT. you should see the point here.

Bottomline:
DBZ and NARUTO have STORYLINES ALMOST 2-DECADES APART. no wonder most reply you get have better judgement. look for other anime 2-decades ago and compare them. not just Naruto but other anime as well looked to DBZ as its inspiration. i advise you read Kishimoto's notes how he was inspired from DBZ.

FACT: viewers here are not being emotional as what you claim. sorry TS, but you got an unfair judgement or poor analysis.

Like what deepak said "DBZ is legend." <-- like written legend in anime world
Likewise NARUTO is continually writting its own legend.

we could somewhat but not entirely say "NARUTO is born/greatly inspired and influenced from DBZ."

 

[angel131740]

DBZ was a bad show. If you cannot admit that then you have some issues. It is no whether you like it or not, from an unbiased and analytical position it was terrible. No one is saying you didn't like it.

 

[Hyperion]

DBZ was a bad show. If you cannot admit that then you have some issues. It is no whether you like it or not, from an unbiased and analytical position it was terrible. No one is saying you didn't like it.

That's what you think
It wasn't terrible, probably to you but not the majority.

 

[SSJ3Gotenks]

You should be ashamed, truly truly ashamed of yourself. Nostalgia? It's much more than that and what you just did is not only a complete taboo, but you just broke one of the most fundamental rules of history and as a result your entire opinion is not credible. What you're doing is being anachronistic, you impose values, opinions and ways to view at things from the current time on something from the past completely disregarding the context in which it was originally created. If you would do that in historical societies, you would be criticized to the ground and you would loose any kind of credibility as it's completely wrong, it's something you just don't do as you blame and accuse people of things that are odd in our current society, but weren't at the time it was originally made. With other words you're being unreasonable. You say that sucks, that sucks and that sucks. If all that was so bad, how come it's one of the most important, if not the most important anime of all time?

What you're doing is no different from saying that the original Star Wars utterly sucks. The quality is horrible, the special effects are archaic and the plot is nothing special either. Still it's considered one of the best movies in history. Why? Because it's a milestone, a landmark in the history of film making. The influence it had was massive and it's exactly the same for Dragonball and DBZ. You are extremely narrow minded as you completely disregarded its influence and the context in which it was created and aired on TV. That you don't like DBZ that's your opinion. Yes there are a lot of things wrong with DBZ, yes the plot is repetitive, yes it doesn't have much depth, yes the balance of power in DBZ is completely messed up and yes DBZ contains a lot of contradictions. So? Apparently you are under the impression that that actually still matters. It does not, it's worthless, irrelevant, not needed. Everything you said is completely worthless, all of that doesn't matter anymore. There are countless of books and movies that became almost legendary, but got criticized years later because the way you look at things always changes. But that never took away their status. It doesn't matter how bad you find the plot now, it doesn't matter how repetitive you see it now as none of that changes the importance DB and DBZ had on the world of anime and manga when they were released. DBZ is a milestone.

That's what makes DBZ DBZ, all your criticism about the plot and its characters is just not relevant anymore, you're 10 years too late for that. If I would make an objective comparison between for instance Naruto and DBZ, Naruto would probably do better than DBZ. Still I would see DBZ of something completely different than Naruto for the simple fact that Naruto is in a certain way the result of DB and DBZ. It predates Naruto. Kishimoto, Oda, Hiro...they all have said that they grew up with DB and DBZ and they're not the only ones. An entire generation got inspired by Goku. The similarities between Naruto, Goku and Luffy are so clear it doesn't even have to be mentioned. Nor Naruto, nor One Piece, nor Fairy Tail or any other manga/anime for that matter can at this point say that, no matter how popular they are atm, they can't claim that they inspired an entire generation unlike DBZ.

You should be ashamed as a manga reader and an anime watcher that you reduced DBZ to just criticizing its plot and characters and completely ignoring the influence it had and its value. In my country the manga/anime culture hasn't really been that wide spread, however already 10 years ago DBZ was something known by even adults. I remember how I woke up early on sunday morning to watch DBZ as each sunday they aired 5 consecutive DBZ episodes and often my dad started to watch with me too. It's the same for Pokémon. How much did Ash's personality change during the course of all those seasons? Barely and Pokémon is probably the most repetitive anime in existence. You want me to summarize that? Ash collects badges and each episode Team Rocket gets blasted away. Still just like DBZ Pokémon is something that influenced the world and an entire generation. Then your criticism about its plot and characters is so minimal, so useless it might as well be completely ignored as it has no relevance.

And still I yearn for something like DBZ. These days anime episodes are cheaply mass-produced. The quality of things like DBZ and Gundam Wing are, even seen by modern standards, on a whole different level than the crap we get today.

That you call yourself an anime watcher and manga reader...it's truly embarrassing. You lack any kind of insight in the history of the anime and manga world. DBZ is an icon, it's something a lot of people grew up with. DBZ is the reason as how I personally ended up watching anime and reading manga. DBZ is a milestone, an icon, something that paved the way for things like Naruto and One Piece. That's why people look up to DBZ in such a way, your critics at this point are just utterly worthless. That's not just nostalgia, it's way bigger than that, but the fact that you don't even understand that is really sad. In fact you even confirmed it yourself by saying you thought it was the best anime at that time, but now you find it one of the worst. How come? Because you're using knowledge you gained by watching animes that appeared after DBZ was already finished to criticize it...that's just weak as those same animes owe DBZ. DBZ doesn't owe Naruto or One Piece anything, however they owe DBZ as they're the result of DBZ. If DBZ didn't exist, both Naruto and One Piece would have looked differently or maybe never existed in the first place. That's what made DBZ so great and it's sad that you didn't even realize that. So the main reason as why you were even able to give those critics was due to the influence of DBZ itself, so by actually criticizing DBZ like that and ignoring its status, you just invalidated your own comments as those are the result of DBZ. Talking about irony.

I'm never going to claim that DBZ had the best plot or character development or whatever, though I value what it symbolized and the effect it had, which was on a scale none of the current animes have reached yet.

I don't think anyone could have said it better this is the best comment on this entire thread.

 

[sandysennin]

Some things are obvious!
Some can see them
Some can't!

OP clearly can't see what DBZ stands for...
We would not go to classes (i was in 5th grade when it aired in Portugal but i know ppl who were in college and wouldn't go to classes when DB was on...)
That is the stuff that makes legends my friend...​

 

[~MC117~]

When I was younger DBZ was the best thing ever for me but after growing up and watching it again I found it to be not as good as people say it is, it is an OK anime but there are alot better animes out there, its just overrated because its famous, but DBZ its just Like COD, very famous and overrated.

 

[ved0341]

i shall not say tht DBZ is best ever produced....but yes DBZ..is a legend in animes....it created a space for japanese animes....but yes..DBZ has many faults....like no space for emotions like love,hatred,lust..whereas..Naruto nd shippuden has all that...everything.....

i used to watch pokemon...i loved tht anime very much but now it is just fighting ..nd fighting nd..........

when we compare Naruto nd DBz..or Bleach..or One piece..i think naruto is a character..which every human has..like pain from lonliness.,hatred from others...Naruto tells that he never goes back on his words thts his nindo.....these words r great..where fighting with pain ..nd" LOVE gives birth to sacrifice nd which brings forth hatred..nd let u know pain"....these r like epics...wheres as DBZ..is like fighting nd fighting nd fighting nd......never ends.... y we r fighting..nd now i seems DBZ is boring...but DBZ is oviously inspirational anime nd manga.....nd now an outdated anime in 2012...!!!

 

[Sani Uchiha]

Gota say that 1st time i watch DBZ i wanted to laugh like crazy oooooooh i got all the power XD oooooh an alien LOL (nob offense)

 

[tristan]

Scene of Goku and his friends all happy and relaxed. OH NO! enter powerful alien headed to earth. TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN. finally after a month of episodes villian reaches destination. Good guys fight villian. Villain transforms into different form. Pwns heroes. Everyone lies on ground waiting for Goku to come save them. Goku arrives. Kicks ass. Villian transforms AGAIN. Kicks gokus ass. Goku turns super saiyan and kicks ass. Oh look ANOTHER F-ing transformation. Fight drags on. Both Goku and Villian pretty beat up; Goku finished day with Spirit bomb. Everyone uses dragonballs to irreverse every bad thing that happened. Then Scene of Goku and his friends all happy and relaxed. OH NO! enter powerful alien headed to earth. REPEAT

i loved DBZ when i was young tad but i liked this summary...hahaha

seriously, DBZ set the page for some other anime types to develop...bad story or not...it was a legend...

 

[Jonathon]

So I used to watch DBZ when I was younger and thought it was the best thing ever(who on here didnt); but looking back I realize its probably one of the worst animes ever made. Horrible story line and no character development whatsoever.

I mean practically all the main villains (frieza, buu, etc..) had no motive and just wanted to destroy the world just because. No depth to any of the characters, no backstory on the villains everything is just black and white. Either evil or good.

In naruto and other animes countless episodes are spent developing the main characters and the villains and how they became the villain. I mean all of naruto is about how Sasuke grows into a villain. DBZ is just a very simplistic anime.Only thing going to DBZ was the action. Im just saiyin (lol see wat I did there)...


***UPDATE***

Also its probably not THE worst one out there cuz there's lots of animes and probably really bad ones that no ones even see but it definitely isn't one of the good ones.

Ok stop telling me about how Kishi got inspiration for Naruto from DBZ I know this already and I knew it before I made the thread. Doesn't change these facts:

FACT: DBZ has weak plot. If a 5 year old can grasp the plot then its not a very deep and meaningful plot.
FACT: DBZ is repetitive. I can sum up every saga of DBZ in about one paragraph which i will do down below.
FACT: DBZ villains and heroes depth ( they are either good or bad) no gray areas. The only exception to this was Vegeta who started out all bad then became good
FACT: DBZ fights were drawn out and boring, just raw power VS raw power no strategies involved at all?
FACT: you DBZ fanboys are just letting nostalgia take over your emotions. Stop getting your panties in a twist

Here is every DBZ saga in a nutshell

Scene of Goku and his friends all happy and relaxed. OH NO! enter powerful alien headed to earth. TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN. finally after a month of episodes villian reaches destination. Good guys fight villian. Villain transforms into different form. Pwns heroes. Everyone lies on ground waiting for Goku to come save them. Goku arrives. Kicks ass. Villian transforms AGAIN. Kicks gokus ass. Goku turns super saiyan and kicks ass. Oh look ANOTHER F-ing transformation. Fight drags on. Both Goku and Villian pretty beat up; Goku finished day with Spirit bomb. Everyone uses dragonballs to irreverse every bad thing that happened. Then Scene of Goku and his friends all happy and relaxed. OH NO! enter powerful alien headed to earth. REPEAT

Weak plot: DBZ was meant to be a light-hearted storyline that was good for all ages to at least learn something about heroes. There was no intent to go in depth. If you're using this argument you can say Naruto has a weak plot because it's about ninjas and morality...

Repetitive: Are you implying that the plot shouldn't be about beating the enemy? Look at Naruto once again. It's about revitalizing friendships and beating enemies...

Villains and heroes depth: Notice that the villains how enough power to actually destroy worlds. DBZ is like a comic, it has that gritty entertainment value that doesn't need to go in depth to be good. It's about friendship and people don't want to fight but they have to. Goku has a lot of depth as a character, he never wants to kill (like Batman) but he's forced to because his enemies are only out there to kill.

Fights: Fights were about raw power. Strategy was barely used because they didn't need to rely on strategy. However, tactics were used, not strategies. Tactics are smaller than strategies.

Apparent Nostalgia: I hope you know that a lot of people have just seen DBZ a year or two ago? It's just possible that they actually enjoy the show for its entertainment value, not "depth" or "artistic deep metaphorical qualities".

And your scene thing at the end was not needed. Seeing as that's only the broad picture of the sagas. You know, sagas, where you go through something. Like with DBZ how sagas are about beating enemies....

Don't even try to debate the depth of Naruto characters. This apparent "depth" is just a few episodes of their crybaby past that people try to wield as an argument when really it's just to flesh out characters. Ever heard of Dragonball? Giving massive backstories to characters like Goku and Bulma?

I can agree with you that the storylines are a bit repetitive but I believe it was on purpose.

 

[onecruz]

@Jonathon
yup i agree entriely. DBZ is made for the younger generations at that time thats why we could say it has a weak plot.. its made for ages 12 below bracket... to show/amaze raw power... that was its concept... unlike naruto which gives more strategic.

lets not forget, DBZ aired almost 2-decades ago. finally, DBZ is kishimotos inspiration to naruto.

 

[Amahara Uchiha]

dnt get me wrong i love dbz it was an old favorite and it still is but this dude has a point, no storyline whatsoever without all the action it would suck, but thats also the thing i like most about it, there is no episode wasted, no story to explain, juss fight, n wen i was a kid that was the shit, constant fighting, i mean y try to follow a story my brain wasnt even developed enuf to comprehend,

ps. i laughed my ass off wen u brought up the fact that they use the dragonballs to reverse evry bad thing that happened, so true n hella funny, i never even thought of it like that lol