DBZ and Naruto should not be compared anymore (powerwise)

[Joseph Gomes]

Naruto and DBZ has been compared for over a decade now. On every consensus and poll fans agreed that DBZ >>> Naruto in power (which is the truth). And it still is

However, in the past 2 years, Naruto power types have changed a lot. Since onmyoudon, black orbs, black rod etc. have been introduced, the main arsenal for most shinobi, ninjutsu, has been rendered useless against those who own the black stuff (Juubi Jinchuriki). Only senjutsu and taijutsu work against those people

In DBZ, you're invincible only if you're much stronger than your opponent. Nobody in DBZ is completely immune to Kai attack or any physical attack. Even when Goku absorbs nature energy for Spirit Bomb, the nature of energy remains the same. In DBZ, Ki is the same for everybody, only the power varies among people.

However, Naruto has multiple forms and natures of chakra. Some type of chakra induced attacks are completely useless against specific people. Thus it's become more difficult to compare Naruto power level with DBZ. An amplified Jinton that can destroy the Moon should not affect at all Madara theoretically, whereas a senjutsu enhanced bijuu bomb with the same power should kill Madara in one shot.

Naruto has become much different from DBZ at this point (powerwise). So I think we should not compare the two verse anymore. Even though DBZ >>> Naruto in raw strength and speed

(DBZ has recently introduced God Ki which I have ignored because it was not described comprehensively)

 

[The7thHokage]

The powers did evolve, but there is nothing in Naruto that can compare to Goku's speed.

Goku > NV

 

[Madara Uzumaki Uchiha]

In a crossover fight, I imagine you could do a equalization rule similar to the haki=chakra=reishi=ki.

For example, Sage of Six path chakra = God Ki --- for simplicities sake.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

people who never grew up watching DBZ/non fans are simply insecure and try to compare their favorite series to it/try to make it seem superior in every possible way, it's only natural.

without getting into details, Goku's Kameha ends NV as a whole ...................... one simple attack can end the entire world on NV and people actually try to compare the two power scales lol let them be bro.

 

[Sharkninja]

Huh, the irony in some people.

Clearly someone people have never heard of a guy called Itachi- who had to be killed of due to his visual capabilities and legendary weapons.

Oh and one more thing; Obito>DBZ

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

well I see what you are saying which is that in DBZ the ONLY thing that makes you stronger is you amount of ki and how much you output in energy attacks... basically bigger boom and no style, diversity, strategy... but in narutoverse characters don't make bigger booms but doesn't mean they lose to DBZ by default because of the Diversity, strategy, and styles in combat so for example just because Goku can make big boom doesn't grant him immunity to strategic attacks like Universal Pull(No One is stronger than Gravity), and Totsuka(Even if its Goku you get sealed) BUT in the end DBZ usually wins BUT Narutoverse characters put up a good fight or at least stand a chance... right?

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Huh, the irony in some people.

Clearly someone's heard of a guy called Itachi- who had to be killed of due to his visual capabilities and legendary weapons.

Oh and one more thing; Obito>DBZ

Precisely what I am saying!!! not that obito wins always but that because he has a strategic tech like kamui he is able too strategically evade attacks instead of being obliterated an can One SHot too.. BTW Obitoo stands a good chance but in the end gets solod

 

[Xerotes]

Destructo disc solos

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

Yeah I can't even tell anymore...

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Huh, the irony in some people.

Clearly someone people have never heard of a guy called Itachi- who had to be killed of due to his visual capabilities and legendary weapons.

Oh and one more thing; Obito>DBZ

I am 100% sure you have not watched DBZ, otherwise you should know that by feats Gotenks and Buu would destroy Obito

well I see what you are saying which is that in DBZ the ONLY thing that makes you stronger is you amount of ki and how much you output in energy attacks... basically bigger boom and no style, diversity, strategy... but in narutoverse characters don't make bigger booms but doesn't mean they lose to DBZ by default because of the Diversity, strategy, and styles in combat so for example just because Goku can make big boom doesn't grant him immunity to strategic attacks like Universal Pull(No One is stronger than Gravity), and Totsuka(Even if its Goku you get sealed) BUT in the end DBZ usually wins BUT Narutoverse characters put up a good fight or at least stand a chance... right?

Goku trained in 100X gravity, so Shinra Tensei or Chibaku Tensei should not work on him. Totsuka Blade might not pierce Goku's skin (if it does than Totsuka can also absorb superman prime).

My point of the thread is, Naruto verses powers have diversified that's why direct comparison is almost impossible to make. Not only Ki is different from chakra, but certain type of Chakra is completely different from the other, and wont work at all on some people

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

I am 100% sure you have not watched DBZ, otherwise you should know that by feats Gotenks and Buu would destroy Obito



Goku trained in 100X gravity, so Shinra Tensei or Chibaku Tensei should not work on him. Totsuka Blade might not pierce Goku's skin (if it does than Totsuka can also absorb superman prime).

My point of the thread is, Naruto verses powers have diversified that's why direct comparison is almost impossible to make. Not only Ki is different from chakra, but certain type of Chakra is completely different from the other, and wont work at all on some people

Oh shit I forgot about Goku's training when Vegeta tried to do it too(determination), but I think Kamui and Totsuka Blade are the Most effective tools NarutoVerse has against DBZ characters... kamui evades... Totsuka Blade seals faster than Lightning(1/100th of a second) oh an Mutualy Instantaneous Revolving Technique is VERY effective too

 

[-Punk-]

Comparing anime/mangas/characters or whatever is completely retarded , they are different universes , stories etc ........only losers do it .

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Oh shit I forgot about Goku's training when Vegeta tried to do it too(determination), but I think Kamui and Totsuka Blade are the Most effective tools NarutoVerse has against DBZ characters... kamui evades... Totsuka Blade seals faster than Lightning(1/100th of a second) oh an Mutualy Instantaneous Revolving Technique is VERY effective too

Goku or any other strong DBZ character should be able to open portal in dimension with loud roar. Gotenks should be able to rip a hole in Obito's body with just scream like this. DBZ has counter for almost every Naruto technique

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Totsuka Blade is bit tricky, as we haven't seen much feats from it. If Totsuka blade can pierce goku then Goku will definitely lose (even superman). But I don't think it can pierce Goku's skin

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Comparing anime/mangas/characters or whatever is completely retarded , they are different universes , stories etc ........only losers do it .

Yes, after seeing senjutsu and black orb stuff I believe different verses should not be compared. Because of black orbs and rods, Narutoverse has now completely different type of power scaling than DBZ. So comparing them directly is impossible

 

[Jin Hayami]

Saiyan Saga Piccolo destroyed the moon.
What the entire NV has been trying to stop the entire time one of the weakest versions of one of the mid level characters solves with one attack.
People keep bringing up illusionary powers and Kamui in debates. Fact is once they power up they are literally able to destroy the entire landscape around them without even attacking. There is literally NO version of any character in Naruto, One Piece, or Bleach that can touch DBZ which saw multiple planets destroyed by weak versions of characters.

 

[Mahesvara]

It's simple really.
1. Speed-Naruto characters have shown if somebody is fast enough Kamui wouldn't be a problem. Plus DBZ characters are faster than any Naruto character can hope to be.
2. Overwhelming power-No Naruto character can blow up a planet, enough said.
[video=youtube;WW3zD5QoL74]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW3zD5QoL74[/video]

 

[YokoKurama]

Comparing anime/mangas/characters or whatever is completely retarded , they are different universes , stories etc ........only losers do it .

Saiyan Saga Piccolo destroyed the moon.
What the entire NV has been trying to stop the entire time one of the weakest vers
ions of one of the mid level characters solves with one attack.
People keep bringing up illusionary powers and Kamui in debates. Fact is once they power up they are literally able to destroy the entire landscape around them without even attacking. There is literally NO version of any character in Naruto, One Piece, or Bleach that can touch DBZ which saw multiple planets destroyed by weak versions of characters.

I completely agree with these two guys.

 

[KCMNaruto]

You are most likely right. Still Excluding The Genjutsu, Senjutsu having extra effect and any other hax Current Madara could be on par with BOZ Goku/Picollo and maybe even put up a battle against The Raditz.