DA's Simple Tier List

Kagustuchi

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I have a few changes that I've made to my DA tier list. Though I wanted to do a very simple one this time around, since most people aren't found of 4 or 5 different versions or highly specific standards of how each character goes into each tier. This one will be simple and here's the rules.

It gets hard to break the mold on a list you've been updating since 2009 as well.



Rules:

- Multiple versions but will be ones with enough feats or were featured in the manga for a decent amount of time. Or have enough implications to where a reader that isn't well versed in debating could tell that there would be a difference. I'll use simple names to avoid confusion on which character is which as well

- Featless characters won't be in this one unless they have some direct hype

- No "What If" characters. (I.E: Healthy Mortal Itachi, Double Rinnegan mortal Madara, Healthy Kimmimaro). Only forms actually shown in the manga are allowed.

- Based mainly on Part 2 of the manga. No Gaiden or The Last versions yet.

- I won't bother with extended power in this one. So I'm not counting Oro/Kabuto summoning Edo's or Obito using Jins.

- The margin for being in the same tier with someone else has gotten smaller in this list. Im being much more general than trying to seek out the slightest difference in power. If they're in the same tier, then they should be able to fight on generally equal terms without one obviously overpowering the other if they fought in a story situation. (this doesn't mean someone in a lower tier can't beat someone in a higher tier, compare my Guy rankings)

- If your thinking; your drinking. I was faded and decided to make a tier list, so don't take it to seriously :sdo:





As always; Tiers aren't in order

Tier 0:

- Kaguya

Tier 1:

- Hagoromo
- Double Rinnegan JJ Madara
- Six Paths Senjutsu Naruto
- Rinnegan Sasuke w/ Bijuu Chakra

*Note: Generally excepted that Madara and Hagoromo are a bit stronger than these two. Though as KG explained this perfectly imo. Madara is on Hago's level while these versions of Naruto and Sasuke are around his level

Tier 2:

- Rinnegan Sasuke

Tier 3:

- Single Rinnegan JJ Madara
- DMS Kakashi
- Juubito
- 8th Gate Guy

Tier 4:

- BSM/BM Naruto
- Edo Tensei Minato
- VOTE Hashirama
- VOTE Madara

*Note: Going to make BSM and BM one version in this list since Naruto always use the former after learning he could use Kurama's Chakra with NE

Tier 5:

- Edo Tensei Madara
- Edo Tensei Hashirama

Tier 6:

- EMS Sasuke
- Killer Bee

Tier 7:

- Edo Tensei Nagato
- Dragon Sage Mode Kabuto
- Rinnegan/Mangekyo Obito
- KCM Naruto

Tier 8:

- Mortal Minato
- Edo Tensei Tobirama
- Edo Tensei Itachi
- War Arc Kakashi
- War Arc Gai (up to 7th Gate)
- War Arc SM Naruto

Tier 9:

- War Arc Gaara
- MS Sasuke (Danzo Fight)
- Mortal Itachi
- Kisame
- Kakuzu (<- This guy gets some shitty matchups in this tier though)
- Deidara
- Sasori
- Danzo
- Muu
- Ohnoki
- Third Raikage
- Second Mizukage
- SM Jiriaya
- Orochimaru
- Edo Tensei Hiruzen

Tier 10:

- 4th Kazekage
- Tsunade
- Sakura
- Mei
- Kimmimaro
- Choji

Tier 11:

- Darui
- Chiyo
- War Arc Kankurou
- Neji
- Rock Lee
- Yamato

Tier 12:

- Sai
- Kiba
- Hidan
- War Arc Temari (Need Ice-Kun to defend her. Don't recall her doing anything special in P2)
- Asuma
- Introduction P2 Kabuto

Tier 13:

- Zabuza
- Haku
- Shino
- Hinata
- Shikamaru

Tier 14:

- Ino


Too ****ed up to keep going. Will add anyone I missed tomorrow at some point.


 
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You're missing base riduko mode Naruto that blitzed 1 eye lord Madara. After tier 5 and up is just horrible.
 

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Tier 1 is a bit wrong. Double rinnegan Madara and Hagoromo are vastly superior to Naruto and Sasuke individually

And tier 4, Vote Hashirama is still a level above Naruto and Sasuke in there and same for VOTE Madara.
 

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Lol. You placed EMS Sasuke below BSM Naruto. Not just that but two teirs below. When EMS Sasuke has PS. Wow. Dat list.
 

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--Killer bee should move down, he is not a tier above nagato, nagato beats him, and overall he is definitely superior,
hell even Edo Itachi has the potential to beat bee, and he is 2 tiers below him in this list,
not seeing what the hachibi has on PS either to be on the same tier as Sasuke

--JJ hagoromo is well above the likes of madara and his non jin halves (madara was approaching non jin hagos level)

--move MS Obito down a tier, in no way shape or form is he an entire tier above Tobirama, Minato and Edo Itachi

--i dont consider BM Minato to be a tier above Edo Madara, he doesnt have much on VOTE hashirama and madara either

--deidara, sasori, kakuzu and hiruzen need to move down, in no way are they in the same tiier as the uchiha bros. Muu or Third Raikage, these guys got taken out by the likes of early part 2 sakura, base naruto and hebi sasuke, they arent anywhere near the level of most of the people in their tier

--apart from that, its not a bad list

Lol. You placed EMS Sasuke below BSM Naruto. Not just that but two teirs below. When EMS Sasuke has PS. Wow. Dat list.
Lol 2 tiers below BSM naruto is exactlly where he belongs
 

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And people wonder why I say this dude Bee is overrated as shit. He has no business being above those placed in Tier 7. Then we have the fact that everybody in Tier 8 can arguably beat him or at the very least make it a high-diff fight... but somehow he's 2 tiers above them.
 

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It's overall not bad, but..:

1) Why is VoTE Madara above Edo Madara? Do you also count Kurama towards his power?

2) There is absolutely no way Bee is in Tier 6. Even 8 is more realistic than 6. EMS Sasuke would stomp him, most of Tier 7 beat him and some from Tier 8 can push him to high difficulty. Overrated, in a word.

3) Alive Minato is not the top of his tie. Tier 9 can also easily be split into another one, but whatever.

4) Maybe add Konan to Tier 10?
 

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You started tripping on tier 7, tier 8 is retarded. Your older lists used to be better, I'm guessing you put little time into this one.

-How tf is KCM Naruto in the same tier as Rinnegan Obito. Clear KCM wank right there.
-7th Gate Gai is tier 6, not 8. Rinne Obito is above tier 6 but slightly below tier 7. He shat on Hachibi, yet Hachibi is a tier above, lel.
-War Arc SM Nardo is tier 9, not 8. He loses to all in tier 8. Wins and loses in tier 9 so it's more realistic for him to be tier 9.
-Darui is surely tier 10, given that he beats everyone in tier 10. Hidan is tier 10 level too.
 

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You started tripping on tier 7, tier 8 is retarded. Your older lists used to be better, I'm guessing you put little time into this one.

-How tf is KCM Naruto in the same tier as Rinnegan Obito. Clear KCM wank right there.
-7th Gate Gai is tier 6, not 8. Rinne Obito is above tier 6 but slightly below tier 7. He shat on Hachibi, yet Hachibi is a tier above, lel.
-War Arc SM Nardo is tier 9, not 8. He loses to all in tier 8. Wins and loses in tier 9 so it's more realistic for him to be tier 9.
-Darui is surely tier 10, given that he beats everyone in tier 10. Hidan is tier 10 level too.

Chillll, he'll fit in tier 7, but he ain't a tier above them
 

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7th gate guy is tier 8 definitely nothing more.
 

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Tier 9 can definitely be split apart, but I really don't have a problem with a lot of it.
 

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Gaara should go up a tier. He can compete against them all in extremely-high dif conditions. :cool:


OT: Pretty good list bro.
 

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Chillll, he'll fit in tier 7, but he ain't a tier above them

No one in tier 8 bar Obito can fcks with 7th Gated Gai. He blitzes them all with his speed, given he put Jin Madara on the defensive and made contact several times. And the only reason Obito can defeat him is because Obito should be in a tier 5.5. I'd say 7th Gated Gai=Bee<EMS Sasuke.
 

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Killer B can't hang with EMS Sasuke w/ PS any day of the week. He has no business being in that tier. He needs to move down at least one tier.

Sasori, Kakuzu and Deidara are definitely not a tier above the likes of Sakura and Tsunade, nor do they belong in the same tier as people like MS Sasuke, Itachi, and the 3rd Ay.

SM Naruto needs to go down a tier.

Maybe KCM Naruto and Kabuto need their own tier below Nagato and Obito, but above the rest? Both would beat Kabuto and Naruto individually, and it doesn't go to high difficulty.

List is great. Those are my only major gripes.

No one in tier 8 bar Obito can fcks with 7th Gated Gai. He blitzes them all with his speed, given he put Jin Madara on the defensive and made contact several times. And the only reason Obito can defeat him is because Obito should be in a tier 5.5. I'd say 7th Gated Gai=Bee<EMS Sasuke.

The only one that Gai can comfortably defeat in Tier 8 is SM Naruto and possibly Kakashi. He is not blitzing the Hiraishin duo, not by any stretch of the imagination, not when Tobirama can react to someone like Juubito, and Minato is just as fast as Tobirama at the very least. As long as Itachi can get Susanoo up before Gai enters the 7th Gate, any blitz attempt is pointless.

How does Obito go into Tier 5.5? Do you think that he has Bijuu here? Cause that's the only way he'd ever get into a tier above EMS Sasuke.

--JJ hagoromo is well above the likes of madara and his non jin halves (madara was approaching non jin hagos level)

--move MS Obito down a tier, in no way shape or form is he an entire tier above Tobirama, Minato and Edo Itachi

JJ Hagoromo isn't listed here. Only Hagoromo w/o the Juubi is.

That's not MS Obito. That's Rinnegan Obito, as it states. Gedo Mazo puts him a tier above those 3, cause he'd wreck them when he uses it. MS Obito would be on their tier, if he were listed.
 

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The only one that Gai can comfortably defeat in Tier 8 is SM Naruto and possibly Kakashi. He is not blitzing the Hiraishin duo, not by any stretch of the imagination, not when Tobirama can react to someone like Juubito, and Minato is just as fast as Tobirama at the very least. As long as Itachi can get Susanoo up before Gai enters the 7th Gate, any blitz attempt is pointless.

How does Obito go into Tier 5.5? Do you think that he has Bijuu here? Cause that's the only way he'd ever get into a tier above EMS Sasuke.

Minato would lose to 7th Gated Gai given his combat speed and movement speed being in a completely other league. He's certainly faster than v2 Ay, so I don't see any reason as to why he would not be capable of defeating Minato. Others bar Itachi win by default because Gai can't seal them, power wise they'd still probably lose. Tobirama wouldn't have any answer to Gai's Morning peacock imo. Itachi can't really lose because of an indefinitely standing Yata.

Minato has no reaction feat to compare to Tobirama's Juubito feat. He'd probably fit better in tier 7, but tier 8 is surely a little low imo.

I assumed Rinne Obito is Obito with Bijuus, otherwise I went full retard on that.
 

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Minato would lose to 7th Gated Gai given his combat speed and movement speed being in a completely other league. He's certainly faster than v2 Ay, so I don't see any reason as to why he would not be capable of defeating Minato. Others bar Itachi win by default because Gai can't seal them, power wise they'd still probably lose. Tobirama wouldn't have any answer to Gai's Morning peacock imo. Itachi can't really lose because of an indefinitely standing Yata.

Oh, they'd both lose. But it's probably around mid diff at the easiest. Mid-high diff at the hardest. It's enough for him to narrowly get into Tier 7, but he can't go 2 tiers above them. Especially when the only person in Tier 6 (Sasuke, B doesn't belong as we both agree) would obliterate him with minor effort once he used his full power. He'd have to be able to beat them low diff if he wanted to go 2 tiers above them.

Minato has no reaction feat to compare to Tobirama's Juubito feat. He'd probably fit better in tier 7, but tier 8 is surely a little low imo.

Not sure why he needs one when he's been stated and portrayed to one up Tobirama when it comes to speed. Tier 7 is good. I can agree that Tier 8 is a bit low.

I assumed Rinne Obito is Obito with Bijuus, otherwise I went full retard on that.

Lmao, I figured as much.
 

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Oh, they'd both lose. But it's probably around mid diff at the easiest. Mid-high diff at the hardest. It's enough for him to narrowly get into Tier 7, but he can't go 2 tiers above them. Especially when the only person in Tier 6 (Sasuke, B doesn't belong as we both agree) would obliterate him with minor effort once he used his full power. He'd have to be able to beat them low diff if he wanted to go 2 tiers above them.



Not sure why he needs one when he's been stated and portrayed to one up Tobirama when it comes to speed. Tier 7 is good. I can agree that Tier 8 is a bit low.



Lmao, I figured as much.

Lol wtf is a Doton Chidori Spear?!
 

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Lol wtf is a Doton Chidori Spear?!

Lmao. He was saying that Raiton>Doton, so Chidori Spear slices Iron Sand to pieces. His lack of punctuation made it seem like he was saying Doton Chidori Spear. :lol
 
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